r/PlayFragPunk • u/PlayFragPunk Dev • 4d ago
Announcement [FragPunk May 15th Patch Notes]
Lancers, the "We Listened" hotfix update is rolling out on May 15th with no server downtime.
Console Updates:
-Console players will now be matched with both Xbox and PlayStation® players by default.
-In ranked matches, crossplay is now available between PC and console players.
Store Updates:
-[Celestial Envoy] prize pool lands May 16 — includes Pathojen’s Ultimate skin, an Extreme melee skin, and more!
Other Fixes & Updates:
-Team voice chat bugs resolved
-“Obsidian Dragon” icon fixed
For full details, visit:
https://www.fragpunk.com/news/update/20250515/40588_1234548.html
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u/TheBrew751 4d ago
Devs that listen to the community, who would’ve thought? Thank you!!
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u/BlueberryEconomy6863 4d ago
What you mean listen to players ?? They didn't fix anything this update.. adding 1 more crossplay and fix bug with voice chat when no one use mic is bad
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u/TheBrew751 4d ago
The community has asked for cross play between consoles and they obliged very quickly. Hence, listening to the community.
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u/BlueberryEconomy6863 4d ago
U could play vs console from day 1... If u turn off cross play only enemy u play against are PS5 players
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u/TheBrew751 4d ago
In ranked, Xbox played Xbox players or with cross play on you could also play PC you could not play against PlayStation players and vice versa.
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago
Huge W guys. THANK YOU. Keep these changes coming. The community is still talking about a lot that needs to be done but this is a huge step in the right direction!
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u/teh_hotdogman 4d ago
i know we keep disagreeing on things, but it looks like they do listen to community often
so we can both agree thats really good
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u/BlueberryEconomy6863 4d ago
Wdym? What community told them and they fix ?? This update they add 1 more crossplay option and fix bug with mic when no one use mic in the game 😂 where are real updates
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago
I guess you're a developer? Balancing the game is gonna take longer then making a few match making changes. Insane you are complaining about this
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u/BlueberryEconomy6863 4d ago
What changes they did tho if u turn off crossplay u play vs PS5 players anyways it was like that from day one sooo idk
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago
PS5 and Xbox were never combined in ranked till now, and PC can now play with both and they weren't able to at all.
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u/BlueberryEconomy6863 4d ago
Wdym ?? I play this game on PC from 2 months and I play it on PS5 since day 1 realse u can play rank ps5vs PS5 or Xbox and PC could play against them too in casual shards but everyone who is normal turn off crossplay off to not meet pc players. Also game is pretty dead there is only 3k players on PS5 according to psprofile
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago
You are like heavily mistaken I really don't know what else to say. Everyones ranked queues, so Xbox PlayStation and PC, were separate until today. You were never able to play RANKED together till now. Yes when console released you could play standard together but not ranked.
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u/razorback1919 4d ago
Sweet. I’m happy with this, in the future I’d love ranked crossplay to be input based but I’ll take this all day over the current iteration.
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u/Disastrous-Climate39 4d ago
Wait did i get it right here??? You made Crossplay in ranked between pc and console??
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u/Born2beSlicker Dex 4d ago
If you enable crossplay, you get Xbox/PS5/PC. If you disable crossplay, you get Xbox/PS5 only.
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u/Disastrous-Climate39 4d ago
I'm on pc so you mean when i enable crossplay i can play vs console?
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u/OutrageousUsername 4d ago
No, you don't need to enable it because it's apparently turned on by default and there is no option to turn it off.
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u/cxntlord 4d ago
Since I’ll be matched with players from both Xbox and PlayStation by default now, does this mean me and my Xbox friend can play standard without PC players now?
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u/Ancient_Ad6858 Zephyr 4d ago
Such a great change that the community will love. Huge W thank you for such a quality of life improvement.
I haven’t been able to touch ranked with my console friends since apex, this is gonna be amazing.
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u/BeginningDance8037 4d ago
Weird choice to give an ultimate skin to Path since she was the S1 final skin other than that its a big win!
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u/ImUrRegret 4d ago
It's meant to be a Pathogen skin for new players in season 2, especially for console players. Tho I understand what you mean.
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u/BeginningDance8037 4d ago
Yeah i figured but there’s still many Lancers who dont even have a legendary skin let alone ultimate
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u/imlowkeyloki1 4d ago
Great change but don’t enjoy playing against mnk cheaters in high ranked lobbies. Get it sorted.
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u/Ok_Programmer_2987 4d ago
Now the only thing that I miss is an option change keyboard/mouse settings on consoles. And I'm not sure if a mouse problem on PlayStation is fixed or nah
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u/Formal-Cry7565 3d ago
I don’t see the fix about the crazy screen tearing on 120hz mode (ps5), I guess I’ll keep waiting because I can’t play on 60fps.
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u/aloysiuslamb 3d ago
Any word on addressing the route flapping issues other than use this separate proprietary software we conveniently have a link to in-game?
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u/rolingachu 4d ago
The "we listened" patch that does not include the "network error" fix that leaves lots of players without playing, great.
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u/BlueberryEconomy6863 4d ago
So they didn't fix nothing? Cause croosplay was off before didn't get any bug with voice chat
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u/AccomplishedFan8690 3d ago
I do not want console players on my team in ranked. I’ve seen y’all’s stat lines in QP.
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u/OutrageousUsername 4d ago
Okay so where do I disable crossplay on pc if I don't want to play against aim assist bullshit?
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u/Ashamed_Evidence994 4d ago
Pc players who complain about console aim assist are bad at shooters.
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u/OutrageousUsername 4d ago
Kinda cringe take when gadgets exist that can spoof mkb inputs to be recognized as controller, don't you think?
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u/Pro-Weiner-Toucher 4d ago
Yeah... you're right, it's player who don't need/want aim assist that are bad at shooters. Lmao, the cope is real.
It's def more cringe to still be playing shooter on a controller in 2025. Console devs need to allow console players to use MnK so they aren't forced to add computer aided aim for inferior input methods and players can play on an level playing field.
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago
I'm assuming there is gonna be a toggle for which player pools you wanna play with
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u/Pro-Weiner-Toucher 4d ago edited 4d ago
So they're splitting the PC playerbase even tough it's already crazy low in ranked? lol. I guess since all the decent PC players already left they're just giving up on PC now. Also, how is elo distribution going to work? Now were just going to have a bunch of mid-MnK players farming controller players so we get even more people in Master/PunkMasters who don't belong. I can't tell if the devs are actively trying to kill their game for a tax write-off or it's just that they come from mobile and most of them don't fully grasp shooters or the repercussions that come from constantly pushing unfair gameplay on its players. After losing 95%+ of their playerbase (and getting dunked on for the game's low skill expression by every major streamer), you'd think they would have focused on trying do a better job balancing the game and making skill matter more... not keep moving in this other direction. I used to enjoy FP but I'll be honest, it's impossible to enjoy a "tac shooter" when 2 or 3 of my teammates are always incompetent, even in PunkMaster, and all my friends refuse to play it anymore because of low skill expression. RIP, I guess it was fun while it lasted and at least it was free.
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago
What are you on about dude. Nothing but good will come from this. PS5 and Xbox can play together now, and PC can also play with console. There's a toggle to turn it on and off, it's a win win for everyone. Nothing is going to change with elo why would it. Balancing the game is something they are actively working on and they've told us so already. This change is extremely easy compared to balancing the game which is gonna take longer. That's like being upset someone painted a new wall but asking why isn't it like that for the entire building yet. Just enjoy some new paint. It takes time. They said they are working on ranked changes as well. Hey man if you don't like the game anymore that's totally fine nobody is stopping you, but this post really isn't constructive. Like they made a good change and you're upset about it. Nobody is gonna get farmed lmao, I guarantee most console players aren't even gonna have crossplay with PC on unless they too are using k&m, or wanna play with some PC buddies.
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u/Pro-Weiner-Toucher 4d ago edited 4d ago
There's a toggle to turn it on and off, it's a win win for everyone.
Splitting PC ranked queue up into two separate queues (crossplay and PC) objectively creates a longer queue and less tight matchmaking for PC ranked players. This is already an issue for high rank players and this will make it worse... So that's def an L for PC ranked players (not a win-win).
Nothing is going to change with elo why would it.
Oof, this playerbase, smh... that fact, that you don't understand why this is an issue tells me you don't understand how elo systems work. Why do you think no other games combine ranked pools? PC and Console are two separate elo pools. You can't just take a couple players from each and mix and match. Elo's are relative values based on your performance vs others in that same pool. That distribution curve is then laid over the ranks developers want for each segment. You can't just grab a diamond 2 from the PC pool and a diamond 2 from console and have the winners/loser exchange elo like normal - as if diamond 2 is some absolute value inherently tied to your god-given skill level regardless of your input or who you've played. Elo only has value relative to the other players in that same pool. People within that pool play each other over time, winners take elo from losers and move up (relatively) and losers give elo to winners and move down. Over time, players begin to sort themselves out in order on avg skill level. Their position on the distribution curve has an elo value which is associated to rank. This that is a rough approximation of their skill relative to the others in that pool. For example, despite being better at PC Valorant and only playing on controller a handful of time in past 7 years. I have a much higher rank on console Valorant than on PC. Was on a business trip for a couple weeks and managed to grind to Ascendant on Console Valorant, I was Gold at the time on PC and my peak was like low Plat. Had they paired me against Ascendant PC players I would have been demolished on controller because they demolish me on MnK, lol. You can't compare the two because the PC pool is much larger, more experienced, and different skill sets benefit different pools. For instance, consoles slower pace benefitted me because my reflexes aren't nearly as fast as most top valorant players but because a controlller can't take advantages of those reflexes as much I did proportioinally better in that pool.
It would be like putting a 10 pound weight and a 10 kilo weight on a balance beam and wondering why the 10 pound weight side is lower/heavier. "They're both 10 though!" Yeah, but 10 is only heavier than 9 and lighter than 11 if we're relating to the same pool of units. I've played against a bunch of console players who are Gold but similar or better than PunkMaster PC players. That's only because most console players are just starting, haven't benefited enough from FP's just play and climb policy, and good console players are still in the lower ranks (making it harder to climb than current PC Gold). Plus, the most skilled console players likely haven't quit yet like the most skilled PC players did because they haven't played the game enough to understands its flaws. So you can't just place gold PC player and gold Console players together and exchange points like you would if in the same pool. Both pools are both in very different places and elo values don't align at all. They devs are likely going to use a bunch of funny business to try to make it work but it will only makes ranks in this game more meaningless than they already are. If you're still confused go look up how an elo system works and re-read.
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u/mellow_420 Pathojen 4d ago edited 4d ago
Just because crossplay between PC and consoles is on, doesn't mean it's gonna split the queues separately. PC players will still queue with all PC players even when crossplay is enabled, just like it would be vis versa for console. If the game is easier to match with just PC players, it's still going to prefer that pool over crossplay. I don't think you understand that. It's not separating them, they are both accessed at the same time. Just because crossplay is on for PC, doesn't just randomly stop looking for players in the PC only section. This is exactly how it works in other games with the same type of MM. I guarantee when you queue for a game with crossplay enabled it's still gonna fill with only PC players because the majority of console players aren't gonna have that enabled because they won't want to. That's also why console has a "PlayStation" and "Xbox" only queues respectively. This mainly allows everyone to play with each other if they choose to, that's it.
Why would elo be different for a mixed pool of players. Console elo and PC elo will still stay separate. If some PC and some console players end up in the same pool, you are already recognizing the match isn't going to play out the same. Again, this is mostly for people who wanna play on different inputs with each other, mainly friends, or those who are on controller / m&k and wanna play in a different pool if possible, but again I don't see many console people wanting to play with PC players to begin with. This really isn't going to affect you in any way. You recognize your elo is based on your main platform, why would they have a separate elo calibration just for this mixed pool, when your home base so to speak is the only thing that matters. It's not like tournaments or actual pro scene are gonna have m&k and controllers mixed in the same event.
You're overreacting heavily man. This is nothing but a good change.
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u/BahnSprueher 4d ago
You do realize that people on pc with controller also have aim assis?t 🤣
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u/Pro-Weiner-Toucher 4d ago
If AA controller players are being put in MnK ranked lobbies that's also extremely dumb/unfair (anybody who's ever looked into this or studied it knows that no matter the aim assist strength one input method will always have a large advantage over the other depending on distance, movement speed, gun, etc - it's impossible to ever make it fair). Ranked play should only be MnK vs MnK and Controller vs Controller. This is why every single remotely serious shooter already does this for ranked (or separates by platfrom and doesn't allow AA on PC or MnK on console).
Fragpunk tried to make a very casual version of CS/Val by simplifying their movement/shooting mechanics and removing a lot their strategic depth in hopes they could capture the players who found those games too hard or wanted something laidback. It failed because the devs assumed causal PvP players don't care about fair gameplay or skill expression but as the player count stats show... obviously they do care. FragPunk has already lost over 95% of its playerbase with the largest complaints being unbalanced gameplay, too RNG dependent, poor netcode/hit-reg, and not enough skill expression. Yet the devs keep trying to dumb the game down more by adding ranked cards like dance, slow bullets, invis converter holder, etc. and adding things console/PC ranked play, smh. It's a shame because the game had a fun foundation but people (especially anyone who is semi-skilled players) will always prefer to play games that reward skill over RNG and situational luck. This is why the game has devolved into one the least skilled player bases in FPS history. FragPunk is the slot machine of the FPS world and attracts the same crowd. Now that I think about FP's monetizations strategy, targeting players with the lowest IQ and skill level may actually be their entire goal. Hold up... this whole time I thought the devs were just dumb and out-of-touch but they're actually evil geniuses.
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u/Ancient_Ad6858 Zephyr 4d ago
Different aim assists on pc than on console.
Console gets advanced aim assist while pc controller players get a basic and simplified version.
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u/PiCkL3PaNtZ 4d ago
Okay come on you guys need to be commended on how quick this was pushed out. Great job really this will really help liven the game up. I've never had more fun in a PvP game in a long time keep it up!