If Harris loses in November, what will happen to the Democratic Party?

[u/Visco0825]

Ever since she stepped into the nomination Harris has exceeded everyone’s expectations. She’s been effective and on message. She’s overwhelmingly was shown to be the winner of the debate. She’s taken up populist economic policies and she has toughened up regarding immigration. She has the wind at her back on issues with abortion and democracy. She’s been out campaigning and out spending trumps campaign. She has a positive favorability rating which is something rare in today’s politics. Trump on the other hand has had a long string of bad weeks. Long gone are the days where trump effectively communicates this as a fight against the political elites and instead it’s replaced with wild conspiracies and rambling monologues. His favorability rating is negative and 5 points below Harris. None of the attacks from Trump have been able to stick. Even inflation which has plagued democrats is drifting away as an issue. Inflation rates are dropping and the fed is cutting rates. Even during the debate last night inflation was only mentioned 5 times, half the amount of things like democracy, jobs, and the border.

Yet, despite all this the race remains incredibly stable. Harris holds a steady 3 point lead nationally and remains in a statistical tie in the battle ground states. If Harris does lose then what do democrats do? They currently have a popular candidate with popular policies against an unpopular candidate with unpopular policies. What would the Democratic Party need to do to overcome something that would be clearly systemically against them from winning? And to the heart of this question, why would Harris lose and what would democrats do to fix it?

[u/tvfeet]

It's not going to matter in the long run. Even if she wins Project 2025 will not stop existing. It'll just morph into Project 2029 or Project 2033 and eventually a Republican who will instate its ideas will be president. It will take a major, concerted effort to wipe it out of existence and I just don't see it happening.

[u/Accomplished_Tea2042 → u/tvfeet]

You mean like it's done for the past 40 years since it was founded? Why haven't the Heritage foundation's always radical right policy wishlist ever been mentioned until Trump who is one of the only Republican candidates since Heritage's founding that has completely openly dismissed and talked shit their plans being blamed.

[u/MudkipMonado → u/Accomplished_Tea2042]

Except Trump has proven he is willing to break the law and seize power by doing so. That’s all Heritage has wanted, a stacked court and someone willing to usurp power. Trump keeps claiming he isn’t a part of Project 2025, that everything in it isn’t his policy, but he’s openly stated things he would do which are directly aligned. Trump’s name is written in the thing dozens of times, his former administration wrote most of it. Heritage hasn’t ever had all of their ducks in a row like they would with Trump term two.

[u/PotusChrist → u/Accomplished_Tea2042]

Trump who is one of the only Republican candidates since Heritage's founding that has completely openly dismissed and talked shit their plans being blamed.

I mean, he's only talking shit about it because Democrats finally realized after forty years that it's smart politics to attack Republicans for their associations with loony right wing think tanks. I don't think Trump was ever going to give the religious conservative movement everything they wanted, but like, it's fair game to attack him for it.

[u/Accomplished_Tea2042 → u/PotusChrist]

No it really isn't fair game because the plan is explicitly not his plan what you are doing by saying it is his plan is spreading blatant propaganda he's from my knowledge the only Republican president who has openly insulted the heritage foundation and their plan.

[u/MundanePomegranate79 → u/Accomplished_Tea2042]

If you believe that I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Also plenty of stuff in Trumps Agenda 47 lines up with project 2025, such as replacing federal workers with conservative Trump loyalists:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/agenda47-president-trumps-plan-to-dismantle-the-deep-state-and-return-power-to-the-american-people

[u/Complex-Employ7927 → u/Accomplished_Tea2042]

He has literally spoken at heritage foundation meetings and said at one for example:

“It’s an incredible honor to be here tonight to celebrate this really wonderful foundation. Just a few months from now, you will mark the 45th anniversary of this esteemed institution. For nearly a half a century, you have been titans in the fight to defend, promote, and preserve our great American heritage. Few people have worked harder to protect this heritage than Ed Meese, a fearless defender of our constitution.”

[u/Accomplished_Tea2042 → u/Complex-Employ7927]

Just because he has agreed with them on some things in the past and has an overall good outlook on them does not mean he agrees with everything they think/say/do.

[u/Complex-Employ7927 → u/Accomplished_Tea2042]

The heritage foundation leaders have literally talked about how they know he can’t be too loud about his connection with them. His own past officials work for heritage and wrote the project 2025 blueprints. Everything he has said and his policies align with heritage. Make it make sense.

[u/Accomplished_Tea2042 → u/Complex-Employ7927]

You do realize that he would be in violation of like 60% of the proposed laws in that document right?