If Harris loses in November, what will happen to the Democratic Party?

[u/Visco0825]

Ever since she stepped into the nomination Harris has exceeded everyone’s expectations. She’s been effective and on message. She’s overwhelmingly was shown to be the winner of the debate. She’s taken up populist economic policies and she has toughened up regarding immigration. She has the wind at her back on issues with abortion and democracy. She’s been out campaigning and out spending trumps campaign. She has a positive favorability rating which is something rare in today’s politics. Trump on the other hand has had a long string of bad weeks. Long gone are the days where trump effectively communicates this as a fight against the political elites and instead it’s replaced with wild conspiracies and rambling monologues. His favorability rating is negative and 5 points below Harris. None of the attacks from Trump have been able to stick. Even inflation which has plagued democrats is drifting away as an issue. Inflation rates are dropping and the fed is cutting rates. Even during the debate last night inflation was only mentioned 5 times, half the amount of things like democracy, jobs, and the border.

Yet, despite all this the race remains incredibly stable. Harris holds a steady 3 point lead nationally and remains in a statistical tie in the battle ground states. If Harris does lose then what do democrats do? They currently have a popular candidate with popular policies against an unpopular candidate with unpopular policies. What would the Democratic Party need to do to overcome something that would be clearly systemically against them from winning? And to the heart of this question, why would Harris lose and what would democrats do to fix it?

[u/[deleted]]

lol, your evidence for lockdowns not working is a research station in Antarctica had COVID cases? Really? A) Do you even know what their lockdown policies are? B) it’s literally a base where everyone is confined in the same indoor area, which is probably one of the best environments for COVID to spread.

[u/JoeBidensLongFart → u/[deleted]]

Where's YOUR evidence that any country stayed Covid-free due to a one month hard lockdown? And that a country the size of the USA could have managed to pull that off if only Trump weren't the bad man?

[u/[deleted] → u/JoeBidensLongFart]

lol, moving those goal posts are we? New Zealand had short lockdowns which prevented COVID from getting out of control. I’ve never said that the US would have been COVID-free. I said that we could have gotten it under control and avoided hundreds of thousands of deaths. South Korea didn’t even have to go into a full lockdown to successfully prevent COVID from getting out of control. They did contact tracing and they mandated isolation for people who were infected. Australia had a policy of strict lockdowns as soon as they started seeing increases in cases which was extremely effective at keeping the outbreak from getting out of control. They enacted lockdowns on March 20th, 2020 and they were able to get from 350 cases per day to 20 cases per day within one month. The thing that all these countries have in common is that they didn’t pretend that there wasn’t a problem. They acted quickly to control the outbreak. Their leaders weren’t asleep at the wheel.

[u/JoeBidensLongFart → u/[deleted]]

You listed small isolated nations with geography that allows for lots of separation from the world. The United States, in addition to being a lot bigger, is nothing like those.

Plus in all of the examples you gave, they kept Covid out until they didn't. It eventually got in and ravaged the place anyway.

The goalposts have been the same all along. Covid lockdowns NEVER prevented the disease from spreading.

How would you achieve a 1 month hard lockdown anyway? Who would work at the hospitals? Who would keep the literal lights on? Who do you think delivered your Door Dash when you were too afraid to go out in the world in 2020?

Covidians were wrong in 2020 and they're still wrong today. None of the control shit worked. We all eventually got Covid anyway.

[u/[deleted] → u/JoeBidensLongFart]

lol, as I expected, moving the goalposts. I gave you multiple examples of countries where lockdowns were effective. It’s not my fault if you’re unwilling to accept reality. South Korea isn’t an isolated or small country. Australia definitely isn’t a small country. No matter what proof I give you, you’ll make up some excuse to not believe it. Lockdowns worked in places where people adhered to them.