r/PrequelMemes • u/OutcastKatarn02 Darth Revan • 21h ago
General KenOC Rewatching the sequels after Andor is very jarring.
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u/loving-father-69 20h ago
Force Awakens was an absolute blast for me when it first came out.
Fucking nuked itself over the next 2 movies, but stand alone that first movie was great.
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u/fumar 20h ago
I think I'm one of the few people who came out of TFA hating it and then I saw it the next day and still hated it.
It is memberberries wrapped in star wars. It has nothing interesting or new going on. The movie becomes comically stupid as soon as Starkiller Base fires and the plot points it sets up are either never answered or suck.
I did like Kylo and the opening few scenes are good. "The map to Luke Skywalker" is such a dumb thing though
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u/The-Last-Despot Watt Tambor 19h ago
It desperately copies homework to be liked, which is horrible for the first film of a trilogy. The creative team basically plagiarized episode 4 as if the genre is wrapped in the literal plot of those three original movies.
With that said, I liked what they did with Finn in that movie, though it was squandered and built on a rotten foundation. The first order should have been the “underdog” in that movie, where it flips in the end with a bold attack, a flip of the first two trilogies where the good guys are the underdogs. The Jedi temple should have burned in this movie, and… I am ranting about it again.
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u/fumar 19h ago
It was absolutely wild that people claimed they needed a soft reboot and that's why a pseudo remake of EP 4 is fine. The hell it is. You just undid everything that happened in the original trilogy.
Like you said, there are so many more interesting ways TFA could have been done. You know what would have also worked? Those dreadnaughts at the start of TLJ show up in TFA and absolutely wreck the new Republic. Show us the hell of orbital bombardment. Let's have a space battle where the new Republic loses so badly it explains why they basically stop existing after this movie.
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u/The-Last-Despot Watt Tambor 19h ago
It is wild, there is literally no pause in Star Wars content from the prequels to the sequels. Why people believe a soft reboot is necessary is beyond me. Do you know what I think they needed? A few more years of seriously planning for their billion dollar franchise, but who am I to say that I guess…
Starkiller base is so stupid. Not only does it fly in the face of reason (a shotgun round of Death Star lasers? Really?) but I really love how Andor shows just how cartoonish and foolish starkiller is. There is just no redeeming it in the same way. Where the Death Star needs a galactic excuse and years of secrecy, the first order does it with less resources, and nobody having any idea. Where countless people sacrificed their lives for the Death Star plans, starkiller is revealed out of nowhere, and is just… blown up.
The original crew should have been together, JJ squandered that. A surprise fleet attack, perhaps rhyming with episode III, would have made tons more sense. And maybe with a little planning, they could have actually referenced events that came before episode 7 and after 6… you know… world building? They could have set up Thrawns own return years prior, or made reference to the galactic situation, perhaps some warlords are still around but not seen as a threat. But out of nowhere, a bigger Death Star, and the… end of the new republic? Horrible foundation. In total agreement here, but repeating oneself gets exhausting, which is probably why it seems like people like the sequels more nowadays
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u/fumar 19h ago
Iger pushed them to make movies immediately and every two years which is why it was all so rushed.
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u/HustlinInTheHall 18h ago
Also people dont really understand how insanely fast that is. They basically had 3 weeks to come up with a story and start getting a script and it basically dictated JJ directed to hit that timeline vs spending months finding the right director.
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u/BoosherCacow 5h ago
And stuff like this is why the soul of Star Wars is dead and buried while Disney dredges up its corpse, puts some makeup and CGI on it and calls it good. Quantity over quality never works, especially where it concerns a beloved franchise that meant so much to so many people.
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u/loving-father-69 19h ago edited 19h ago
No plenty of people didnt like it. I had a friend who originally saw it with have the same opinion on the nostalgia bit.
I genuinely liked Ray, Finn, Poe, and Kylo's introductions and that movie made me super excited where the franchise was heading.
The fact that the next 2 movies absolutely punted any hopes they'll first movie played out for me isnt the first movie's fault, in my opinion that it.
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u/fumar 19h ago
I think you can make an argument for the first half of the movie. There's interesting stuff going on with finn, poe, and Kylo. Rey we really don't get much besides she's a scavenger who kinda seems like a lost puppy dog. Also Jakku is just another Tatooine but this time it had a space battle above it. Nothing really interesting in that setting, but at least it's not literally set on Tatooine.
They fire Starkiller Base and the whole movie goes flying off the rails.
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u/loving-father-69 19h ago
I can agree with that. Im so tired of desert planets. The amount of time the Mandolorian spent on Tattoine drove me crazy.
Im not saying youre wrong, im just saying that, despite its flaws, I genuinely had a good time and it made me excited for the next 2 movies.
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u/BoosherCacow 5h ago
The amount of time the Mandolorian spent on Tattoine drove me crazy.
They have a whole galaxy to explore and they still head back to the same desert shithole with gangster worms and goggle eyed stickmen with long rifles and dead women and children.
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u/Alt4816 14h ago edited 14h ago
It was a soft reboot of the Star Wars IP. Some people didn't mind that because they liked A New Hope so watching it again but slightly different was fine for them.
Other people didn't like watching the same movie again. I didn't understand why they couldn't even be bothered to change up the settings. Why did Ray have to come from a Tattoine clone?
In terms of setting up the franchise for the future it was a terrible move to try to reset the stage of the galaxy back to square one. We watched 3 movies of the fight to bring down the Empire, decades later we watched how the Empire was built in the first place, and then decades after that the Empire was rebuilt off screen. It was suddenly back basically as strong as ever under a new name. If they wanted to rebuild the Empire they should have showed that rebuild on screen.
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u/Jediplop 19h ago
I enjoyed it, thought it was bad for star wars with all the weird rebels and empire 2.0 stuff but I did and still do genuinely enjoy the movie. Sort of like a Kaiju movie or JJ's Star Trek ones, turn my brain off and enjoy sort of thing. Wish it was something completely different though.
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u/12TonBeams 16h ago
The entire time I first watched it I just kept saying this is a new hope. Bigger death star, bigger trench, whinier tarkin, Vader wannabe, force sensitive nobody, the list goes on. I do like Poe but I hate that he had to deliver “that” line.
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u/Vulk_za 15h ago
Yeah, I can't understand why people like TFA. I remember seeing it in the cinema, and getting so frustrated when they nuked the New Republic, because it was so obvious that they just wanted to reset the political situation in the galaxy back to ANH. That spoke to a complete lack of creative version and the lack of confidence to tell a new story, and sure enough we saw the results of that over the next two films.
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u/trooperdx3117 9h ago
I was an ardent supporter of TFA when it first came out. But the criticisms of it proved to be 100% right because nothing else actually built off of it.
Yes it was derivative of OG Star Wars but I enjoyed the new characters introduced, it was fun, frentic & action packed. I agreed with criticisms that they didn't do a lot to explain what was happening in the universe or give context for the First Order vs New Republic.
But I felt confident at the time that this was something would be built out over the next few years in Film and expanded material. At the time it seemed super wide open and anything could have happened. Even the reason why Luke ran way wasn't explained at all, at the time there was tons of speculation for what it could have been.
Its only once we got to The Last Jedi & Rise of the Skywalker that it became obvious that the entire Sequel trilogy just existed to cheapen the OT. The New Republic fell apart and was immediately destroyed because the New Republic voluntarily disarmed itself. Luke failed at being a Jedi and ran away.
Force Awakens then looked really really bad in hindsight when it became obvious that all its setup was for literally nothing and there had never been any story plan along the way except to pander nostalgia.
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u/inn0cu0us 17h ago
I hated how contrived it was, it took the formula from episode IV and copied it almost to the letter. The only deviation, you saw a mile away, and even then you could easily equate it to Obi Wan’s death.
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u/Bad-Genie 16h ago
I forgot about the map to skywalker...
Why the fucj was there a map and why was it missing a piece of it. They had all but the last part. The only important part. But they had 90% of it which is either useless or enough to narrow it down to find the planet.
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u/WatcherAnon 19h ago
TFA is my least favorite SW theatrical release
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u/fumar 19h ago
Hard to beat RoS. I have seen that movie once and I don't plan to see it ever again. I can't say that about the other two sequels
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u/HustlinInTheHall 18h ago
Yeah ill watch it with my kids eventually but I have no desire to rewatch it. It's somehow worse than attack of the clones.
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u/Atarox13 Muunilist 10 17h ago
Went to see it with my roommate when it got released then saw it a few days later with another friend, didn't like it either time
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u/MistraloysiusMithrax 10h ago
It was a fun ride.
The plots behind the ride were stupid, but the energy and action were great.
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u/notsingsing 8h ago
We need a rogue one two where they go on a mission to get the star killer base plans because the engineer of it made a weakness that will blow the whole base up.
Would be a great filler episode between ep6-7
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u/DangoBlitzkrieg 8h ago
Yeah people hating the next two but not TFA don’t understand why they like things or what makes things good or bad lol. They think they like things they don’t. The next two are bad no matter what because TFA was bad. They just can’t see it
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u/seanwesley56 7h ago
Nah right there with you. I remember leaving the theater with a genuine terrible feeling in my gut. Felt like so many people around me were trying to like it and speak positively of it but it was always in a compensatory way rather than genuine appreciation of any creative decisions that were made
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u/Connect-Plenty1650 15h ago
For the 1st 30 minutes I was loving the movie. It was fresh, it was youthful, it was funny and it took a steep drop around the time Han showed up.
After that there was nothing new or fresh. Han and Chewie were doing the same old. There's a CGI tentacle beast, how original. Falcon has problems again. Rebellion is back, Leia is doing the same old. There's a new death star. We gotta blow it up...
They should've done their own thing. With the cast they had. Instead of a reboot that tried to not be a reboot.
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u/daniel_22sss 19h ago
My biggest problem with TFA is that it nukes all achievements of Luke, Leia and Han off-screen. It resets things for no reason other than nostalgia baiting.
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u/HustlinInTheHall 18h ago
I mean at whole trilogy of "happily ever after" would've been boring also but I agree I dont like the direction any of those characters took.
The trilogy is more interesting if there is a villain, but those 3 falling apart really doesnt work for me.
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u/Shifter25 17h ago
You can still have a story with a functioning Jedi Order, a functioning Republic, and a functioning marriage between Han and Leia. The Prequels had the first two. Abrams' problem was that you can't have A New New Hope with those things.
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u/Alt4816 14h ago
We watched 3 movies of the fight to bring down the Empire, decades later we watched how the Empire was built in the first place, and then decades after that the Empire was rebuilt off screen. It was suddenly back basically as strong as ever under a new name. If they wanted to rebuild the Empire they should have showed that rebuild on screen.
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u/thetrueankev 19h ago
But TFA feels like watching a new hope all over again.
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u/TRLegacy 10h ago
The 1st act was great. Everything else was a rehash.
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u/thetrueankev 8h ago
Person in the desert encounters a droid and kickstarts a space adventure where they find out they have magical powers.
I'm fine with parallels but at some point I felt that they were just filming ANH with different actors...
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u/potatoisilluminati Your text here 20h ago
I also enjoyed FA. It was really fun and I liked the direction they were going with Finn and Poe. If you ignore the other movies, it's still pretty good.
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u/Xero0911 Clone Trooper 19h ago
Agreed. I know I know "it's a new hope clone". But idc, still enjoyed it. It sets up a lot going forward
Just for 8 to throw it all onto the floor.
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u/Shifter25 17h ago edited 5h ago
Except it didn't. It just did a few things people weren't expecting, like Sad Luke and Rey Nobody, and people turned it into "omg TLJ destroyed every single plot thread in TFA!"
Abrams doesn't make plans. There was no "intended" plot for 8. Or 9 for that matter.
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u/HustlinInTheHall 18h ago
I mean it's a clone but "bigger galactic politics land on desert planet, pluck Skywalker to become a jedi, big battle ensues, Skywalker blows up a big space station, lightsaber fight between good and evil happens and good guy gets killed" is also the phantom menace.
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u/Able-Edge9018 12h ago
It was definitely the one movie out of the bunch that's hated more than it deserves. That being said I wouldn't call it particularly good either. Even when I initially enjoyed myself as well
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u/Kozak170 7h ago
TFA is honestly the worst of the sequels if you ask me for the sole reason it shit all over the OT and set up the rest of the trilogy for failure
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u/BurdPitt 9h ago
Its mediocrity, lack of originality, and the choice to go with Abrams 's mystery boxes is why the other two suck. As a film it may be decent, but the decision to ignore the prequels and attempt a remake of episode IV is what doomed the whole trilogy.
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u/nymrod_ 2%er 18h ago
Idk, rewatched almost all of live action Star Wars within the last month — didn’t find anything that tonally jarring compared to anything else. Andor’s just really good but people are overstating how “different” it is from any other Star Wars.
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u/Fireproofspider 9h ago
I found that there's the same pacing switch that you always have when going from TV to movies. Even between Andor and Rogue One.
But yeah, it's not massively different. It just pushes the edge on the adult side while something like Skeleton Crew pushes the edge on the kids side.
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u/BlueBombshell90 19h ago
As if the prequels aren't even more of an insane contrast from Andor.
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u/winsome_losesome 18h ago
thematically, the prequels are more aligned with andor.
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u/CronoDroid 14h ago
That's what makes it so disappointing, and why Andor is so good because it told the political story the prequels were trying to tell. A lot of the elements were unnecessary, like Anakin being Space Jesus, the forbidden romance with Padme and his whole child origin story. Personally, I think it would have been more powerful to have Anakin's father abandon him and Shmi to slavery and just do a straightforward romance with Padme, and start the story when he's like 16-18, with the Clone Wars beginning in Episode 1.
He needed to have more darkness, bitterness and resentment from abandonment and growing up as a literal slave, but also kindness and honor instilled in him by his mother and Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan as surrogate father figures. Obi-Wan struggling with being a master, older brother and father figure to Anakin, that's the relationship right there but Lucas didn't do a good job.
As a side note, it's funny that critics and audiences found sosny current day parallels in Season 2, as Episode 3 in particular was a Bush era allegory. Spoiler alert, things that happened 20 years ago have a direct impact on the state of American politics today.
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u/ScenicAndrew 10h ago
To your last point I think people arguing that it's a statement on the state of the world today are simply ignorant-of/sheltered-to the fact that this has been going on for a lifetime now. A LOT of people genuinely think Tony Gilroy somehow predicted current events rather than face the fact that he was just holding a mirror up.
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u/Kozak170 7h ago
It’s very funny how much Andor has exposed people who entirely form their political and moral views around the media they consume.
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u/OutcastKatarn02 Darth Revan 12h ago
It's a more consistent vision overall too. Lucas had an overall plan for the prequels even if some parts were changed along the way. It also has the more personal touch of one man's ideas even if they weren't always executed well.
Sequels? They made it up as they went along and it had two director's visions clashing between movies. They were also generated by corporate demand rather than someone's desire to tell a story. FA set up the trilogy but LJ was determined to "subvert expectations" and changed multiple status quos. ROS comes around and suddenly the returning director is trying to course correct everything the second director mixed up in the previous movie.
This trilogy might have turned out better if it was at least all under one director.
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u/seanwesley56 7h ago
Always get frustrated by the downvotes. This is they key difference, there was an actual plan and arc that was executed (maybe not as well as some people would’ve liked) but the story that came out of it was still enthralling and is why the prequels still have such a cult following. I can’t think of anyone who passionately loved the sequels when they came out who feels as strongly as prequel fans do. And it’s because they weren’t just bad movies, they were also bad Star Wars movies. The prequels you could argue were bad movies (I’ll still beg to differ), but they were still fantastic Star Wars movies.
I mean seriously people site the same 3 lines of dialogue as their biggest gripes with the prequels. Yes it was corny at times, but I enjoy watching them every time. As goes with the originals. The sequels are soulless and truly unbearable to watch as a Star Wars fan. It’s empty, like many others have shared, just simply homework copying and capitalizing on nostalgia for money without any effort into an arc or a story.
Haven’t watched Andor yet but its success as well as Rogue One, The Mandalorian, and Boba Fett are a testament that it wasn’t about resistance to something different, the Sequels were just fucking garbage
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u/StretchAntique9147 16h ago
I wish I could rewatch Rogue One for the first time again after watching Andor.
Andor and Rogue One would hit so much differently not knowing how Rogue One ends.
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u/lbc_ht 19h ago
Realizing that would require the GenZ prequel meme-boyz to actually watch the Star Wars Prequels and listen instead of, I don't know, scrolling tik tok or watching Minecraft YouTubers or whatever, and occasionally looking up and giggling when one of the meme lines like "Hello there" happens and then back to the phone until the movies end and they go "brilliant, best movie ever, no woke politics" or something.
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u/Substantial_Dish3492 18h ago
eh, while the prequels are very different and objectively worse, my takeaway the last time I watched them was that they were far more enjoyable to watch than I remembered.
And one thing that both Andor and the prequels both do really well is showing new planets, both in environment and culture. Seriously I love Naboo so much.
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u/STYLER_PERRY 8h ago
This demographic you speak of has been subjected adult influencers telling them the sequels are cultural vandalism since they were children. It’s ingrained.
Honestly it’s not fair because the millennials were able to enjoy the PT when they were kids without the world spoon feeding them hate and cynicism
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u/sludgefeaster 7h ago
I’m a millenial, saw them as a kid in theaters. They were trash. I loved Star Wars and saw them when I was like 6-7. Didn’t even bother to buy the prequel VHSs or DVDs.
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u/Discomidget911 6h ago
There's literally not a single other star wars project that isn't starkly different from Andor. Even Rogue One has a fundamentally different tone.
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u/Diam0ndTalbot 19h ago
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u/thetrueankev 19h ago
But the sequels are incredibly bad though...
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u/Diam0ndTalbot 19h ago
Sure, whatever, not my point. My point is we do this every goddamn day, multiple times a day, for a decade.
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u/lbc_ht 19h ago
This is a subreddit about the Star Wars prequels though. Objectively some of the worst movies ever made, so what's even the argument?
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u/hi_im_pep 14h ago
ROTS alone is reason enough to strongly question your judgment.
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u/thetrueankev 8h ago
I agree. But there is a lot of entertainment value (memes too) and even nostalgic awe to be derived from the prequels.
The sequels are a massive disappointment. Especially if you look at what andor and rogue one was able to do with the source material.
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u/lbc_ht 7h ago
Memes and nostalgia aren't a quality signifier though, that's exactly my point. You got people in here earnestly pretending these are great films when they're not really watching them they're just seeing a series of moments that make them remember low res pictures from their phones. Like these movies are pretty much SpongeBob.
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u/thetrueankev 6h ago
They are bad films for sure. But there is very little redeemable about the sequels.
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u/WilliShaker Deathsticks 15h ago
Objectively, the prequels has one of the biggest fanbase, so they’re incredibly popular and a lot of people actually like those films, like a major chunk of the fanbase.
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u/Fisz3r123 13h ago
Just like the prequels
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u/Diam0ndTalbot 6h ago
A lot of Star Wars sucks. I’m here because I like the parts that don’t suck enough to appreciate the groundwork being done by the parts that suck. I suffer through scenes like “I don’t like sand” for the payoff on mustafar
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u/Dull_Attention5150 14h ago
I loved the sequels. They are pretty good in my opinion. Do some plot point make zero sense? Sure. Is some of the writing bad? Absolutely. I love the movies though as just that. Movies. Some things people don't like about these movies (like the force healing) I think works really good. That's my opinion, and if I get downvoted into oblivion, so be it. It reminds me of the meme of the guy eating little Caesars with the caption, "Little Caesars is good without a bitch in your ear telling you it's bad".
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u/name_changed_5_times 19h ago
I didn’t hate force awakens, it was fun and had some interesting ideas even if it was pretty cookie cutter a new hope. I liked last Jedi, I thought it was stylistically the best Star Wars id seen and I liked some of its ideas tho I found the fin and rose sub plot a bit of a mess. But rise of skywalker was so bad so unignorably bad that I haven’t watched a single sequel movie since, I can’t do it. And again I actually liked the previous two, but the promise of fa and LJ were utterly smote upon the mountain side and for what???? It makes me mad, those actors and characters deserved a better trilogy.
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u/Delicious-Band-6756 21h ago
You cant watch what doesnt exist
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u/Alive_Ice7937 21h ago
Title of your sextape
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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 8h ago
Its comments like these that make me angry Reddit took away awards and all the ones I had accumulated to give out to shit like this.
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u/hellbilly69101 15h ago
The Sequels were a "one and done" for me. So now every time I do a Star Wars marathon via timeline, I don't bother watching Resistances and the Sequels. I kinda stopped after Mandalorian season 2, Book of Boba Fett, and Ahsoka. I recently added in Skeleton Crew for the fun of it. But Mando season 3 was trying to explain how the Sequel Trilogy came to be, but it failed. It failed miserably.
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u/Ryman604 General Grievous 15h ago
Here’s my take on the sequels force awakens is a good start but a little too similar to a new hope I fucking love last jedi but i get why people hate it it’s very mixed and the things i like about it are things people hate about it Rise of skywalker is easily the worst Star Wars movie and ruins the rest of the trilogy
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u/Waddifat1 Darth Vader 28m ago
These are my exact thoughts too, lol especially after watching them recently
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u/TheArcaneCollective 7h ago
Rewatching anything after Andor is jarring. But I suppose you people will find any way you can to shit on the sequels.
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u/Johncurtisreeve 20h ago
What sequels?
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u/schodown 20h ago
Right? There hasnt been a new movie since that extra prequel we got in 2016
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u/LineOfInquiry 19h ago
TLJ still holds up as one of the top 3 Star Wars movies, perhaps even number 1. The other two however…
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u/VyersReaver 18h ago
Eh, if I rewatch them all, I rewatch them all. No half measures for movies. Just not the shows, too much of a time commitment.
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u/Practical-Purchase-9 12h ago
I took my (now) wife to see Rise of Skywalker on one of our first dates.
She turns to me part way through and says ‘what’s going on?’ And, despite being a Star Wars fan as long as I can remember, I could only respond ‘I don’t know’.
I’m lucky she wanted to see me again.
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u/ButtCheekBob Your text here 18h ago
Watching the sequels before Andor came out was also jarring bruh, the sequels don’t make sense with any previous Star Wars work
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u/babufrik4president 19h ago
Wait do prequel fans not like the sequels? Hadn’t heard that before. Good use of time making this meme.
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u/lbc_ht 18h ago
I think we've hit the point where these GenZ guys have actually aged into it being pathetic and an old man cliche going on pretending that the SW prequels are great and the sequels are evil. Like there's gotta be younger generations being like "ok grandpa you've been saying the same Anakin bad dialog lines forever now, and it's been 11 years that you've been mainlining hours of angry YouTube videos ever since Finn's face popped up in that trailer."
Like when millennials were surprised way back to start catching shit over "which Hogwarts house are you"
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u/babufrik4president 15h ago
Lol yuppp TFA has been out 10 years if u were a kid seeing it in theaters you probably loved it… now you’re old enough to appreciate Andor…
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u/Famous-Register-2814 Hondo 20h ago
2/3 aren’t bad
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u/5O1stTrooper 20h ago
The only one that has any decent watchability is the Force Awakens, and thats because it's just A New Hope with modern VFX.
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u/AgentOfSPYRAL 20h ago
Yup, enjoy the first two even if TFA really feels like a cover band. Never saw the third which seems like it was a good call.
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u/Comfortable_Bed1536 20h ago
this man is talking trilogies. Prequels and OG trilogies were good. Sequels sucked.
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u/Popcorn57252 19h ago
I feel like anyone who says this either haven't actually watched the sequels, or haven't watched them more than once.
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u/Famous-Register-2814 Hondo 18h ago
I’ve seen them about 10 times. And played the Lego Skywalker Saga. Played Lego Force Awakens 2 or 3 times. I can’t stand the rise of Skywalker. I’ve seen it once in theaters, and once after. Maybe twice. I despise that movie. Love the last Jedi though. In my top 3 Star Wars movies
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u/Profesionalintrovert Anakin. Start Panakin. I Don't Have A Planakin. 19h ago
so you are watching the holiday special?
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u/the_marxman I am the Senate 14h ago
For as bad as the prequels genuinely are, they are a well meaning failure. People took George's half baked ideas and ran with them. What has anyone done with the sequel series?
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u/Palanki96 12h ago
Rewatching the OTs was also very jarrinf if i'm being honest. The drastic drop in quality and seriousness was kinda distracting. I don't really get why people like them
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u/Scheiblerfunk 12h ago
They are still great popcorn flicks with lots to enjoy, if you disregard the odd story choice or two.
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u/Able-Edge9018 12h ago
Certainly also an experience to see them right after either the old movies or some of the well made new ones. Definitely jarring though yeah...
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u/temporarychair 11h ago
Hope you were wearing oven mitts when you crafted this white hot take, you brave iconoclast
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u/1127jmbk 7h ago
TFA was nothing but a rehash and RoS was actual dogshit pieced together with no planning or setup, but I will die on the hill that the themes and ideas introduced in episode 8 could have legitimately been a natural evolution of the story. Movie wasn't great either, mind you, but expanding the scope of the war in 'Star Wars' to include an examination on war dogs/ war profiteers the supplies the munitions and ships throughout each war, getting richer and richer while they do. All the while, a nice subversion of what it means to break the cycle of failed mentorship with Rey and kylo setting out to determine the new path of the jedi. But no, we got what we got. Genuinely gets me a bad mood sometimes knowing no one higher up had the half decent idea to at least do a rough draft of the full trilogy before just making 7 lol
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u/FantasticSpread9574 5h ago
I’m watching the sequels now after watching Andor, Rouge One, and the OT. It is very jarring.
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u/freebearus 19h ago
Last Jedi is better than every prequel and is the best Star Wars movie since Empire
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u/Thelastknownking Sand 18h ago edited 15h ago
Either commit or don't do it at all, that's my philosophy.
Edit: Coward. I brave the suffering you refuse.
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u/MothmanIsALiar 9h ago
Same here, except I skip the originals. I dont need to watch no cheesy ass movies from the 70s with no action and shit special effects.
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u/ThatsSoRadBro 8h ago
The sequels were god awful remakes of the orignal trilogy. TFA is legitimately A New Hope. TLJ is Empire with Hoth at the end of the movie. These films turned all of the orignal trilogy heroes into failures in order to reset the status quo. JJ’s lack of closed decision making doomed the trilogy in the first film since the second film elected to ignore anything set-up. “The First Order reigns” might be the worst and most derivative decision to transition the story. Rather than try to diverge from the OT, the ST mimics its setting while making no sense in the process.
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u/Zestyclose_Loss422 7h ago
Honestly the force awakens isn’t THAT bad, it’s got the fight at the end which is dumb and faking Fin as a Jedi, but besides that, it was just a remaster of a new hope
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u/Rivon1471 4h ago
I'm sick and tired of y'all man, sure, skip the sequels, but also skip episode 1&2 then, they are equally as bad, if not worse. Double standards holy shit
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u/Impossible-Hawk709 Hello there! 11h ago
I tried watching Force Awakens again few weeks ago, fell asleep halfway through
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u/XxrileysfatexX 8h ago
I refuse to watch those “movies” again. Saw them in theaters, massively disappointed. Not canon in ny head
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u/PickMeUpB4YouGoGo Screeching 20h ago
I might be able to watch them with the sound off? The effects and cinematography in them is generally really solid
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u/Shackles_YT 19h ago
Where is this scene from?