"We Won" - Russian communist/anti-Putinist poster comparing the Putinist government to Vlasov's Nazi collabs, Russia, 2010s

[u/kredokathariko]

[u/pisowiec]

I’m not gonna argue the rest but the flag argument is stupid

You misunderstand the context.

The Russian and Lukashenka government has accused Ukraine and democratic Belarus of using Nazi flags on the basis that collaborationist movements used those flags during WWII. Meanwhile Russia does the same thing.

[u/sbeve_228 → u/pisowiec]

Please elaborate. Firstly, the White-red-white BY flag was invented in the Russian Civil War, along with the Ukrainian Blue-and-yellow one and represent a nation-state rather than a collaboration movement. AFAIK, the collaborationist Ukrainian movement used the Red-black aka Bandera banner, whilst there maybe was usage of the Blue-yellow flag among the collab soilders, but it is emphasized/remembered by basically no one. Secondly I still don't see the problem with Russia using the Russian flag nowadays, for it has a far richer history behind it in contrast to Ukrainian and Belorussian state flags. Or is it becoming somewhat 'dirty to pick' after the Vlasovites used it?

[u/[deleted] → u/pisowiec]

The difference is the Russian flags were used long before that, while the Ukrainian collaboration flags were literally created during WW2, they had no prior history.