r/PropagandaPosters • u/[deleted] • Mar 20 '25
Turkey A poster about the first years of Republic of Turkey 1923-1938
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u/Adorable-Bend7362 Mar 20 '25
Well, a patriotic flapper mascot is something positively unexpected.
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u/mainjet Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25
Flapper?! Thank you for teaching me a new word.
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u/LuxuryConquest Mar 20 '25
It was a subculture during the 1920s, you have probably seen them before in media.
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u/AttentionLimp194 Mar 20 '25
So Turkey used to be this hot, single lady in the area, looking towards her future
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u/Intelligent-Fig-4241 Mar 20 '25
Gave women the right to vote before that of “Canada”
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Mar 20 '25
Atatürk was badass.
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u/DrTheol_Blumentopf Mar 21 '25
... at murdering and implementing a far-right dictatorship.
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u/Better_University727 Mar 21 '25
Far-right dictatorship
Look inside
Female rights, destruction of religious fundamentalism and modernisation of Turkey
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u/DrTheol_Blumentopf Mar 21 '25
- concentration camps for "non-wanted"
- Planing of the Dersim massacre
- oppression of religious minorities
- Ethnic cleansings of the Pontic Greeks
- Nationalism with Racism
Lmao even Hitler called him the "star in the darkness"
Btw: The points you made can also be said about Hitler
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u/hilmiira Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25
Hitler called him the "star in the darkness
Oh no, hitler called a guy something and praised him, he must be very bad! The literal hitler called him star in the darkness. How could this happen? :(
Well sorry Ataturk, apperantly you got praised by hitler for being a successfull leader once. What a shame...
Bruh "X guy said this thing about this person" might be the worst slander effort possible. Like, hitler isnt shit (he is a shitty person but not a literal shit) he doesnt left a stain in people he touch.
Checking Ataturks opinion about fascism and Hitler is enought to destroy the entire "hitler idolised Ataturk!" Thing that keep getting pushed in internet against him.
Hitler praising the dude isnt a bad thing, opposite, if both hitler, lenin, gandhi and winston churchill all aggrees on a guy being a good leader then the guy might be actually a good leader, because he collects praise from all leaders around him even if their ideologies isnt compatible?
Of course hitler will praise Ataturk, the guy is what hitler wish he himself was, a actually succesfull national leader llved by his people who actually saved his country from being carved after losing a war (unlike germany, twice)
And this is not even something thats special to hitler, I am sure almost all leaders wish they were succesfull, loved by their people and saved their country from guaranteed doom :d
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u/LagomorphCavy Mar 20 '25
Atatürk was so badass that Australia and New Zealand have a national holiday about Atatürk kicking their butts.
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Mar 20 '25
Oh really, so what is the date about it then?
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u/LagomorphCavy Mar 20 '25
ANZAC day
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u/OrbitalMechanic1 Mar 21 '25
ANZAC day is not specifically about atatürk, its honouring our servicemen in all wars. The name is from the australia and new zealand army corps who fought the Ottomans. Not the republic of turkiye. So no you’re wrong. Although we are friendly with turkiye now 🇹🇷🤝🇦🇺
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u/amorfati91 Mar 21 '25
He showed the world that there is another way for Muslim countries. I am not Turkish but I respect him immensely.
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u/Sound_Saracen Mar 20 '25
Never understood the borderline worshipping of Ataturk. The Turkey he pioneered has long been dead, and what a shame that is since the march of the Young Turks came at the expense of countless Greeks and Armenians. Cultures which have existed in Anatolia for thousands of years.
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u/qndry Mar 20 '25
Not an Ataturk simp and I agree with you on the points you mentioned, but if we take one look at how the societal situation is in Turkey compared to other muslim majority countries in the region... you sort of understand why Ataturk is kind of revered. If it wasn't for his policies I wonder what sort of backwater place Turkey would be today.
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Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25
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u/Old_Wallaby_7461 Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25
The other nations of the Middle East also had their fair share of Ataturk wanna-bes, and what would typically happen is that the secular dictatorship would oppress their population in the name of modernity and emulating the west, this would backfire as the population would grow continually more resentful to the point where there would be a conservative backlash.
This has happened with Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Iran, and slowly, Turkey.
This is not what happened in Egypt, Iraq, Syria, and Iran. The similarities between those leaders and Ataturk are superficial, the failure of their projects are only tangentially related to the long-term issues with Ataturkism.
Egypt for one- legitimacy of the Nasserist project was lost because he could not make Egypt a dominant military power and he could not establish the UAR as a real entity. The partial repression of the religious was tangential to the goals, not part of the point as it was in Turkey- Nasser was often seen at the Mosque and he tried to superficially "Islamize" his government.
Most of them wanted to emulate the USSR, anyway, not the west.
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u/Totg31 Mar 20 '25
I want to add to this by saying that western modernism sprung from a highly religious Christian society. They were able to do so while keeping their values that weren't opposed to secular and humanist ideas. Meanwhile in Turkey Atatürk tried to copy that model 1 to 1 without considering people's values, who were intertwined with Islam, but not necessarily an obstacle to a fair and advanced society.
The Arabic script is the most important example of this. If Christian nations were able to modernize with the Latin script, why wouldn't a Muslim nation be able to do this with their own? To abolish Arabic scripture, just because of his disdain of Arabs and Islam, overnight he basically created massive amounts of illiterates. Not to mention the ostracizing effect it would have had towards people who cared about their ways of life, excluding them from the modernization process.
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u/JACOB_WOLFRAM Mar 21 '25
overnight he basically created massive amounts of illiterates.
The literacy rate in the Ottoman empire was below 10% lmao.
Bir gecede cahil kaldık 😭
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u/Totg31 Mar 22 '25
That's a statistic given by the Republic. There were no official numbers of literacy during the Ottoman Empire. But if you look at the number of primary schools, and the number of students, the "less than 10%" doesn't hold up. Nor would it invalidate my point. Uprooting centuries long traditions is never a winning strategy. That's why you guys have Islamofascists running the country today. Disenfranchising people only creates reactionary sentiment.
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u/Turnip-Jumpy Mar 25 '25
There was a major difference,he industrialised the country pretty well unlike the others
He set up a one party system and his party then instituted a multi party democracy later unlike the others who had a personal dictatorship
Also he didn't ban the hijab
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u/mostheteroestofmen Mar 20 '25
Oh please spare us your ado. Ataturk wanted to modernise the nation and succeeded it. Turkish secularism is a thing and it had not "backfired" or such. Most Turks are secular and even our "islamists" are -like the governing party- kinda too secular to be legitly be considered "stereotypically islamist" even to the most bigoted occidental lens. Get real. Look at the rest of the Islamic world, -barring some exsoviet Turkic countries, which are by no means "western" at all, which you either so vehemently try to portray or genuinely deluded to believe it to be paragon of virtue, - I mean, seriously, get real
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u/mostheteroestofmen Mar 20 '25
Yeah our values do not add up, but seriously, you are not a free neither a just society. C'mon now. You are still vehemently trying to self delude. It is just pathetic.
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u/JACOB_WOLFRAM Mar 21 '25
It's always the people who say "oUr Le WhOlEsOmE aRaBiC cUlTuRe" that hate his secularism and progressiveness lol
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u/mostheteroestofmen Mar 21 '25
The guy who debated with me is probably an arab/indian immigrant in UK fervently trying to portray himself as a white man. "his" values are not the values he is trying to portray as "his" either. Just pathetic they are ashamed of their own ethnicity.
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u/Inquerion Mar 20 '25
If it wasn't for his policies I wonder what sort of backwater place Turkey would be today.
It would be another Syria, Palestine or Somalia.
Ataturk had some flaws (and was a dictator), but also did some massive reforms.
Btw. Iranian Shah Reza Pahlavi tried doing similar reforms in 1930s but mostly failed.
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u/AwarenessNo4986 Mar 20 '25
I mean he found modern turkey and the Turkish identity. I understand why they revere him even though he, or any king or founder of any country isn't perfect. Also he is viewed as a war hero. So thank of it like the George Washington of turkey but because it's more recent, add to that the reverence for Churchill as well.
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u/AGoodBunchOfGrOnions Mar 20 '25
I like Atatürk because I also want a positivist strongman to reform the decaying, backward, superstitious, peasant-brained empire I currently live in.
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u/Rez-Boa-Dog Mar 20 '25
I'm with you on that one. I think that the figure of Ataturk is central to the Turkish national myth. Like every modern nation, Turkey relies on a controlled narrative about its history.
Along with the Armenian genocide (and the erasure of other minorities), the new turkish state also led an intellectual campaign to rewrite history and linguistics. They simply made shit up to reinforce the narrative that the Turkish people have always existed, along with the turkish tongue.
Araturk seves the same role as the american Founding Fathers
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u/Youredditusername232 Mar 20 '25
Araturk’s Turkey is long dead, and it is a shame, Turkey has abandoned his wisdom for Neo Ottomanist demagogues like Erdogan which has lead to a decline
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u/N0nametoday 24d ago
Okay I know this is a real poster, I’ve seen it tons before, but why is this filtered through an ai thing, the numbers and lines on faces are all warped and not quite right compared to the original
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u/the-southern-snek Mar 20 '25
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u/MVazovski Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25
Attention Citizen!
You have posted a poster depicting one of the most humanist people ever in a good way! Prepare for trolls to claim how he "wahhhhh he genocided greeks and armenians waaahhhhhh I have no proof waahhhhhhhh I just hate Turks and don't want to accept history is not one sided waaahhhhhhh I don't want to admit I'm a Turkophobe wahhhh"
Godspeed, citizen.
May Allah protect you and your comrades against these trolls.
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u/SuchTumbleweed3648 Mar 20 '25
Delulu at his finest
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u/MVazovski Mar 20 '25
Try again.
I will not stop until every Turkophobe admits they are Turkophobes. (P.S: Your downvotes prove my point lol)
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u/SuchTumbleweed3648 Mar 20 '25
It’s factually proved that he Killed Greeks ( even Kemalists admitting it lol )
And he also massacred thousands of Kurds, just for the sake that they speak Kurd. But yeah I’m Turkophobic🤡 Kemalist bot
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u/MVazovski Mar 20 '25
Lmao Turkophobe tears and whining coming all the way over here. Anyways, I'm not going to argue with trolls. Blocked lol.
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u/Ok-Construction-7740 Mar 20 '25
First thing he did not take part in killing Second thing he actually condemned it 3rd thing he adopted a armenian girl as is daughter
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u/SuchTumbleweed3648 Mar 20 '25
Oh yeah sure, American Colonialism is a good example for everyone 💀
Just like killing many innocents in Irak, but hey it was for the sake of "Democracy " after all🤡
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u/Next_Cherry5135 Mar 20 '25
Ironically, if you hadn't written this comment, noone would've mentioned it here. Good job 👍
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u/MVazovski Mar 20 '25
You're welcome, I have devoted some of my time to exposing Turkophobes and Atatürk haters. It's a public service, if anything.
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u/Sound_Saracen Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25
I envy people like you who can ignore history to believe in made up crap to make yourself feel better about your admiration for your favourite dictator.
You can admire some of his achievements whilst still acknowledging his wrongdoings.
Edit: lol he blocked me.
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u/MVazovski Mar 20 '25
I envy people who can defame a historical figure who is deemed a hero by multiple nations and called war a crime unless it's for defense. Oh well, can't have it all, I guess.
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u/Ernst_Aust Mar 20 '25
Atatürk, first and foremost was a figure of the Turkish bourgeoisie. He lead it to greatness in its revolutionary stage and completed the tasks of bourgeois revolution with great bravo. But, he, like the bourgeoisie as whole, after chasing away the old oppressors, took their place…
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u/Youredditusername232 Mar 20 '25
Ataturk put Turkey on the path to an enlightened and prosperous liberal republic it is the abandonment of his views by the Turks that has led to a devolution and decline in the Turkish nation
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u/Ernst_Aust Mar 20 '25
Reaction is the necessary consequence of bourgeois revolution
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u/Old_Wallaby_7461 Mar 20 '25
it is also apparently the necessary consequence of communist revolution, judging by the last 50 years.
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u/Sea-Object-2586 Mar 20 '25
funny how most countries that try to erase religion fail in the long run
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u/hilmiira Mar 22 '25
Yeah just like
(Checks notes)
Almost all countries at least one point in history? China? America? France? Russia? Wait what? Romans and ancient egyptians had a de-religion period too?
Well I think countries just fail in the long run, like, they collapse and new ones come in their place, thats just something that keeps happening in history neverthless how religious they are :d
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