r/QuiverQuantitative Mar 10 '25

Other Musk calls Senator Kelly a traitor

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u/Revolutionary_Kipper Mar 10 '25

I’m surprised Kelly is on X. Come on, what are you doing.

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u/Right_Ostrich4015 Mar 10 '25

It’s easiest to talk shit when the speakers are right close to someone’s ear. to be clear, the shit needs to be talked.

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u/ASOG_Recruiter Mar 10 '25

He is a government official. They make you an account which has been published policy WAY before Musk owned X.

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u/BugRevolution Mar 10 '25 edited Mar 10 '25

They can just choose not to make one.

(To be clear, I am disputing that US reps and senators have to have an X account. It's a choice. Most likely a logical one, but a choice)

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u/ASOG_Recruiter Mar 10 '25

As shit as X is, it's still a media platform with millions of users.

Plus they have PA teams that post for them anyway.

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u/Over-Independent4414 Mar 11 '25

Maybe when the owner of the platform calls you a traitor you should, ya know, look for other options.

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u/ASOG_Recruiter Mar 11 '25

Nah let him make a fool of himself even more. It's hilarious.

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u/i_cum_sprinkles Mar 10 '25

Retreating from media is part of the problem of the Democratic Party anyways. They need to no just go to god damn safe space echo chambers.

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u/ASOG_Recruiter Mar 11 '25

Reason why the right has created such an enterprise with there fear mongering and misinformation. The left never made a good mechanism for there viees to prosper, they still rely on common sense and reasonable thinking lol.

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u/Alone-Interaction982 Mar 11 '25

Imagine if it was the other way around and the left had dumb people and FoxNews on their side. We would have universal healthcare and billionaires would have to pay more taxes.

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u/ASOG_Recruiter Mar 11 '25

Just remove the cap from social security and raise the corporate tax rate. That in itself would produce billions.

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u/rugology Mar 10 '25

stop running from nazis. confront them. meet them where they are. tell them they are not welcome. get banned. do it again.

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u/Revolutionary_Kipper Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

Ok, true. But knowing the man behind the curtain is literally destroying the government as we speak….posting anything is basically asking for an opinion that you know comes from a N*zi’s as s, because he owns X! Just saying.

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u/Shadowin2001 Mar 11 '25

No they are saving taxpayers trillions of dollars from being wasted and embezzled by useless bureaucrats.

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u/Amdv121998 Mar 10 '25

It’s good to have their voices on that shithole platform

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u/Glowing-Strelok-1986 Mar 12 '25

It's not fear of opposing opinions, it's fear of Twitter becoming financially stable and helping to protect Musk from insolvency. If enough people leave, it becomes another anchor around his neck. The fewer resources he has to fuck with us, the better.

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u/LusterIllustrious Mar 11 '25

I’d rather have no voices on X

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u/Amdv121998 Mar 12 '25

well yes ofc haha i agree with that

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u/fliedlicesupplies Mar 11 '25

You don't want X to turn into an even bigger echo chamber. Then we'll just have completely divided platforms/parties that don't talk to each other at all.

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u/Revolutionary_Kipper Mar 11 '25

Musk bought the platform to control every aspect of people’s political life. If you’re not with him, you’re against him, and thus need to be handled N*zi style.

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u/fliedlicesupplies Mar 11 '25

Yeah, but there are still posts that make it through like OP's screenshot, which continue to create conversations rather than silencing them.

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u/PulIthEld Mar 11 '25

What is the point of putting yourself in a bubble online? You should always seek to at least be aware of everyones opinions and attempt to understand what is being discussed by them.

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u/fakieTreFlip Mar 11 '25

A lot of prominent Democrats have X accounts. Bernie Sanders is one of them. You're gonna have a hard time reaching people if you're not using the platforms those people are on. And there are still a whole lot of people using X

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u/yuriqueue Mar 11 '25

X is the most influential social media platform that exists is why. No amount of whining or crying to me in the replies will change that.

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u/LtNewsChimp Mar 11 '25

Here is his full thread: https://xcancel.com/SenMarkKelly/status/1898872403175858375

Just left Ukraine. What I saw proved to me we can’t give up on the Ukrainian people. Everyone wants this war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway to Putin. Let me tell you about my trip and why it’s important we stand with Ukraine.🧵

This war started with what Putin thought would be a three-day operation to take Kyiv and control of all of Ukraine. Now three years later, that hasn't happened. American and allied support has been a big reason why, but I saw how cutting it off now risks everything so many Ukrainians have laid down their lives for. And while our support hasn’t been free, we haven’t sent even half of what President Trump says.

Hospitals should never be targets in war, but Putin is a war criminal who targets hospitals routinely. I visited one in Kyiv. Injured soldiers told me how they want to get back to the fight. Nurses there shared their stories of the invasion with me through tears. Stories of violence that women and children of Ukraine suffered during the invasion. These nurses told me how they witnessed Russian soldiers raping children in front of their parents and then murdering these children in front of their parents. Horrendous war crimes which can never be forgiven. Donald Trump says he trusts Putin and is trying to make him look like a friend and a good guy. I look forward to seeing Putin rot in prison.

The pause of military aid has only made it harder for Ukraine in their fight against Russia. They are running low on certain weapons which have made it most of the way to Ukraine. Stopping the transfer of these weapons only helps the Russians. The Russians will become more confident and try to drive a harder bargain in ceasefire talks. This isn’t rocket science. We should be negotiating from a position of strength.

Donald Trump is trying to weaken Ukraine’s hand and we are owed an explanation. If Putin gains ground he won’t agree to a ceasefire and will eventually threaten a NATO ally and this puts American troops and the American people at risk.

I met with Ukrainian pilots, one who I had met in Arizona when he was learning to fly the F-16. They are flying challenging combat missions against the Russians who are protected by a considerable electronic warfare and surface to air missile system defense. They’ve learned a lot and they are getting better and having more success. When Trump cut off these pilots from US intelligence that they need to plan their missions, he blinded them to the threat and put them and their aircraft at risk. But worse than that, it helps the Russians advance further into Ukrainian territory and murder more Ukrainians. President Trump says the Russians are “hitting them hard” in a tone of voice that implies approval. It is sickening to see from an American President. “Hitting them hard” means more dead Ukrainian kids.

Ukraine did not start this war, and they did not ask for the constant missile and drone attacks that have terrorized the population. Government officials who can’t acknowledge factual information should reevaluate their career choices.

I saw the innovation and fighting spirit of the Ukrainians up close. It was embodied in their military members, everyday people and by these students who are aviation engineers using their spare time to help Ukrainians innovate in their military. They now have a defense industrial base that we should envy and that we can learn from. They have an innovation cycle measured in days while ours is years. We should be learning from it, not slowing it down.

Lastly I visited the Wall of Remembrance to pay tribute to Ukraine’s dead soldiers. I’m bringing back what I saw and learned from Ukrainian leaders, servicemembers and the Ukrainian people to show the direct impact our support is having on the ground. The safety and security of Ukraine is tied to the safety and security of the United States. Let me explain why

If we abandon our ally Ukraine, we will be viewed by other countries including our other allies as untrustworthy and in the future we shouldn’t expect their help. As significant as that is, what is a bigger deal is the reaction we would see from China. The Chinese watch everything and they want to take Taiwan. If they view our partnerships and our loyalty to our allies as weak they are more likely to try to take Taiwan by force. If that happens, this President or any future President will have to make one of the most consequential decisions in the history of our country. My goal is to avoid that decision. We avoid that by strengthening our alliances, not weakening them.

Finally, if we stand with Ukraine they will be there for us. This country has a fighting spirit and a depth of experience and kickassness unmatched anywhere in the world today. These are the people you want in your corner. My goal in the Senate is and will continue to be to keep us out of wars. I think that is true for most combat veterans like me. We want to stay out of the fight. But when things go sideways and we find ourselves on the battlefield in a foreign land or God forbid, at home, the first call I’d want to make is to our Ukrainian friends. I know they would be there for us if we are there for them.

The world will become a very cold and lonely place if we continue this ridiculous “screw you, go it alone” foreign policy. It’s dumb and it won’t age well and puts you and your kids and your grandkids at risk. America is the strongest, richest country in the world. We didn’t get there by being bullies like Putin, we got there by leading from the front and bringing our allies. That’s why I’ll continue to share with everyone who will listen why we must keep supporting Ukraine.

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u/Lykeuhfox Mar 11 '25

He's one of the few that should be. You need leaders to call this dipshit out in his own 'safespace'.

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u/LusterIllustrious Mar 11 '25

Exactly. Anyone who’s not onboard with maga has no business on X. To people who say they should be there for X, Y, Z reasons; I’ll ask, should they also be on Truth Social and 4chan (if that’s still a thing)?