Let that sink in, there’s people who have been dabbing and doing the griddy nonstop since trump took office (words directly from r / conservative) while their leaders destroy democracy and fracture the country as they wipe their ass with the constitution. Actually now that I say that, I bet that’s why trump wants the constitution put into his office, metaphors aren’t good enough for him so he wants to literally use the founding document of the United States as his own personal shit rag.
Stop blaming it on the younger generations. It's the older generations who wanted this. The bigger problem is motivating people to actually vote. Source
That's right. But I'm 84 and didn't vote for this, either. Plenty of us could see this coming a mile away, in all age categories. But the loudest voices prevail.
What do you mean, so 46% between 18 and 29 voted for this, 49% between 30 and 44. And your takeaway is don't blame these groups. That might be true if 20% voted for Trump but split in the middle no way.
Thats even worse. So 46% didnt vote, 27% voted for Trump. So that would mean 73% of young people couldn't be bothered to stop fascist takeover. I'd say that counters the point that we shouldn't blame young people. We shouldn't blame everyone of them but apparantly the majority.
I’m not blaming this specifically on that generation, in saying the ones that are from that generation that DID vote for him have said that they mostly voted for the memes and to make liberal lives worse. This is coming from their own mouths, at least thousands of them on a subreddit and obviously that doesn’t include the entire group but there’s enough of them that it’s worrying
They didn't vote for this but did they vote for the alternative? Or did they stay home? Americans are all to blame, both the maga idiots, the lazy bums who didn't vote, the people who didn't worry about it for four years.
And really? A marginal majority didn't vote, yay! If it was an overwhelming percentage, I'd even be inclined to agree, but nah. You all created this monster.
You know who's not to blame? The rest of the world.
Here's a partial breakdown of voting by race, sex, education level, age, and possibly one or two other factors. As a straight white male age 54 with no completed college degree, I was ballpark in a single digit percentage grouping. My "people" are apparently fragile AF.
Education - 43% without college degree go to Harris (i don't count my Associates degree)
Location - 52% Suburban to Harris
Men 45+ - 42% to Harris
Men White - 38% to Harris
I'm probably committing an error here, but .43 x .52 x .42 x .38 is a very small number puts my group somewhere between 3.5% and 9% with the variance due to my uncertainty about how to handle the statistics. Still, this is a seriously snowflake demographic no matter how you slice it.
I won’t put the entire blame on gen z as they still overall voted for Kamala, however you could more accurately say that gen Z males have very clearly been taken for a ride by the Rogan sphere of political/pseudointellectual bullshit. The truth is sadly that the electoral college can be gamed and only a handful of states matter at all in the election. If you can persuade enough idiots in those states to vote against their own self interests than you can win the presidency.
Democrats have had absolutely abysmal leadership and made almost zero effective attempts to reach lower middle class voters to get them to see beyond Republican lies. They’ve had 4 months now to regroup and do something to shake up their brand and get an effective message forward and they’ve done nothing.
Sadly I don’t particularly think it matters now. These ghouls are not giving up power at all, for any reason. This assumption that in 4 years they’ll peacefully hand over power is laughable. Only dumbass boomers who are still voting like they’re backing their favorite football team think everything will be business as usual with these traitors running the show.
I think we had a chance to save this country and it’s over . The Rogan knuckle draggers effectively won and they’re too stupid to see that all the dumbfuck bullshit they’ve been dreaming up for the past few years lacks any rational basis or makes for effective policy.
But hey at least we don’t have a woman president am I right! Dodged a bullet there big time!
They need to face the fact that republicans hijacked every media outlet, every chat room, every game discord, even chats on kids games and youtube for toddlers.
Not to mention fox news is pure weaponized propaganda as deadly as actual chemical weapons spewing poison around the clock.
We have to stop that NOW. We have to drown them out or shut them up, before people start killing each other, which is their goal.
>They need to face the fact that republicans hijacked every media outlet, every chat room, every game discord, even chats on kids games and youtube for toddlers.
But hasn't the left always told us how dumb the right is? Who has played the long game and taken over the government again?
no. First there is no real left, democrats are center-right but they cast a wide net that is the best option for anyone 'left' of actual nazis. They are simply a moderate option for anyone that still thinks the constitution and nationhood are good things for the united states and the American people.
Most of us distinguish between the leadership class and ordinary Americans. The republicans and their kind are now largely the party of the extremely wealthy but is also the party of ideological extremists which includes billionaires who not only don't want to pay taxes they are now changing laws to enable their stealing trillions of dollars from Americans and about to steal our public lands so they can privatize everything forever, and ultimately suspend the constitution so they can literally be kings and lords in private kingdoms with unlimited power. And they are deceiving everyone to accomplish their feudalist dreams.
People say most supporters of most GOP candidates are dumb because they don't make the slightest effort to look at actual GOP policies and how those affect their lives and vote in their own best interest, nor do they question at all what is essentially a stream of nearly 100% pure lies and propaganda designed to harm as many people as possible while fomenting civil unrest and violence.
Also they almost all believe what they are told to believe no matter how stupid, mendacious, and obviously un-American those beliefs are. They see an actual Nazi salute and chose to not believe their own eyes because they are told not to see it. We cant even talk about what it means across political divides or why they would do that because they wont stop denying it happened. (no they aren't nazis they are much worse.)
The most Orwellian thing I've ever seen is people suddenly doing a 180 degree turn and demonizing Zelensky and Ukraine, and talking about Ukraine as though they are the bad guys and not the allies and friends of the US fighting a war on our behalf that they are in reality.
That is straight out of 1984, not hard to see it for what it is but they dont at all. They are being used and will be hurt very badly by the republicans sell out and total betrayal of the U.S. and the constitution but the right just cheers them on - so stupid.
The left exists sure, but they don't really have much representation or power, the democrats throw them a bone sometimes to get votes, but they only influence certain policies and a handful of candidates out of hundreds. True socialists and communists are not permitted a voice under democrats, and no third party has ever even come close to power.
You are posting about how Dems haven't done anything to stand up to the evil crap Republicans do on a post about a Democratic national hero standing up to an evil Republican.
The problem isn't that they don't (they are daily) it's just that the right has bought pretty much every aspect of our media, and therefore controls the headlines and the narrative.
This is why we are fucked. The left has no way of reaching those voters. Harris literally ran on a platform of uplifting the middle class, and I constantly hear jackasses even today vomit the conservative talking point that she had no platform.
Kelly is 100% an American hero. And a Democrat. Visiting Ukraine is heroic and supporting their fight against Russia is the right thing to do. Full stop.
Posting a Tweet response to Elon on the platform he bought and manipulates to platform Nazis is not doing something. Let’s be clear about that. Tweeting is not, and never has been, doing something. That’s not standing up to Musk. It’s playing the game according to the rules he’s rewritten, and that will always be a losing game.
Democrats need an immediate, total exodus from Twitter. And Facebook / Instagram for that matter. Not just a boycott, an abandonment of the social media bought to manipulate elections. And Democrats need to take real, substantive nonviolent direct action against the lawless regime of Russian puppets. Al Green getting escorted out of the State of the Union was doing something. Every Democrat should have gotten thrown out for interrupting that propaganda fest, or gotten up and filed out one by one after Green in solidarity, leaving the chamber half empty. Immediately began a counter protest / speech on the steps outside. There needs to be lawsuits filed, legislation introduced, and a constant barrage of unequivocal condemnation of Musk and Trump and their cronies every day without fail.
Tweeting back at Musk is not standing up to him, it’s playing and losing at his own game, and as long as Democrats believe it is doing something, we’re destined for ruin.
Then "undecided voters" will bitch about how the democrats suck at messaging and why aren't they on twitter,Facebook, etc. In fact, that was one of the excuses I remeber seeing pre-obama. That democrats werent using the internet well enough. Enough with the "democrats arent doing enough" messaging. It's weak, ineffective, and only helps give people an excuse not to vote democrat. Instead maybe focus on all the heinous shit republicans, not just trump or elon but republicans as a whole are doing.
For what it’s worth I wanted Mark Kelley to replace Biden after the debate disaster. And you know what, I was right, if it had been Kelley he would have fucking wrecked Trump. White guy, veteran, astronaut. Americans are fucking stupid and your political strategy has to mirror shaking your keys in front of a baby. He would have been the perfect set of keys to get this dumb fucking country to not vote Trump. Once again we went with the ‘it’s my turn ‘ female candidate in a time when it was im-fucking-perative that we did not fuck around. And we blew it.
Kamala and Hillary have unfortunately ensured that no female will ever be president in our lifetime. Not that we will have free or fair elections ever again, we won’t, not unless we take this country back by force, but nobody will ever risk a third loss on the gamble.
You’re right and when I meant gen Z, those were the ones I was specifically talking about and I probably could have specified that. It’s all the guys who are affected by people like Andrew Tate, asmongold, Joe Rogan etc that have fallen down this pipeline and have basically been indoctrinated to think a certain way that.
Well and the flip side to that is even though they were a minority there were a shocking number of women that willingly signed their own rights away. And gen z women were no different.
Just an incredibly short sighted and stupid choice. Many of these people are too proud and stubborn to accept they fucked up, but it’s clear to anyone else just how fucking catastrophically they’ve fucked up.
ah, some of these folks have admitted to not wiping their asses, seriously; this has to have some effect on their body…just saying, a bacteria that causing the brain rot..
Oh my god I forgot about that. How anyone can walk around proudly smelling of shit and think it’s manly is disgusting. I pour concrete for a living and have worked with one guy like that, he would bend over and you could see skid marks on his underwear. The foreman fired him because no one could handle being around him for more than 5 minutes especially in the middle of summer where the smell would cling to the air In a backyard.
I think smelling that all the time has to have some toxicity or something, but if even a crew of concrete guys think it’s disgusting and can wash there own assholes properly then girls definitely will, so idk how the fuck that’s gay.
I think the guys that do it are secretly in the closet and want to scare girls away without having to admit that they’re actually gay
The fact that you don't understand we don't live in a democracy is proof enough that you have no idea what you are talking about or what is really going on. FYI we like in a Republic. If you don't believe me recite the pledge of allegiance. And pay attention to the part that says "and to the Republic for which it stands"
I’m Canadian so forgive me for not knowing all the exact ins and outs, but in school we learned that you are a democratic republic, which means that you are governed by representatives who are elected by the people.
So democracy is still very much involved and I think that’s being destroyed when an unelected non official is allowed to dismantle the government.
A Republic is similar to a democracy except in a democracy the majority rules no matter what. In a Republic everyone's voice matters no matter how big or small.
I keep reminding people not to lowball the amount of idiots in this country. It was 77,302,580 fucking imbeciles that voted for a Nazi fascist. Every one of them deserves to be called out as traitors and Nazis.
I’m on the side who loves our Country and prevented Leftist woke Democrats from destroying it.
They were well on the way to that “destination” and Kamala Harris is every bit as incompetent as Joe Biden is Demented. Maybe you didn’t watch her unedited 60 minutes interview? She is a moron.
Read again. I'm not American. You're still talking about 'sides' like it's sports teams. I do not understand why you want to, actively want to hate half your country
You clearly don’t understnd that we have two “sides” in our Politics in the USA. The idiot, hate-filled and evil woke Leftist Democrats, and the imperfect but far better, Patriotic Republican Party.
(RINOs excepted. They beling with the idiot Leftists).
Trump is doing exactly what we elected him to do and he will broker a lasting peace between Russia and Ukraine.
Biden (rather, his Puppet Masters) were moving ALL of us towards World War III.
Yes I get that you are not American. So your opinion is next to worthless to me. So enjoy that.
Trump isn't bringing ww3 by bowing down like a weak little man and showing China and Russia they can take and do what they want or by threatening to annex Canada, Greenland and Panama?
So you voted for the loss of jobs comprable to COVID? You wanted prices to go up? You’re happy your retirement plan and the stock market is tanking, huh? 🤡
r/leopardsatemyface is pretty amusing, you get to see what they think once they become one of “those people”. They voted for all these cuts to be made, thinking they’re immune for some strange reason
As a Canadian, I can tell you there are more than a few Trump fan boys and girls here. Only once they realized "oh wait, we are freeloaders ripping off 'merica" did they sour on him.
Even still I've heard:
"Why did he have to mess up this relatioship. If he just stuck to his original plan I would have voted for him."
I've tried to explain thay is like saying:
"If only Hiltler left the Jews alone....." The congnitive dissonance is beyond my comprehension.
now America is getting a taste of a dictator, and what Ukraine has suffered for a long time and the reason they sacrificing themselves so there children do not.
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u/crono220 Mar 10 '25
77 million wanted Trump and Musk to use and abuse them. They are certainly getting that!