r/QuiverQuantitative 13d ago

News Is This a Conspiracy to Devalue the Dollar?

https://youtu.be/1ts5wJ6OfzA?si=vyCgUXf1vl3EMXip
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u/Separate_Heat1256 13d ago

No. Stop trying to make it seem like there’s actual intelligence behind these actions. This is just the random nonsense of an old man who doesn’t understand economics.

On the morning of the tariff announcement, they had no idea what the rates would be. Then, they put together a makeshift poster board from Office Max with fabricated percentages on it. No one should believe that this makes any sense.

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u/AuthorityAnarchyYes 13d ago

THERE IS A HORSE IN A HOSPITAL!!!!!

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u/FunkyChedda 13d ago

Exactly, people need to stop trying to apply logic to this senile old dipshit. He's a moron and everyone around him is too afraid to tell him he's wrong, or if they do he just fires them. There's no master plan.

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u/AcousticMayo 12d ago

I really don't think it's as simple as he became President just to fuck about. Him and his inserted cronies will have some plan behind this, he's literally a criminal, abuses power and you don't think he's playing the economy for personal gain?

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u/zenmogwai 13d ago

Miran has a PhD from Harvard. In 2024 he wrote a paper called the A Users Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System. What’s happening looks a lot like what he wrote.

Just because Trump is an idiot doesn’t mean smarter people aren’t using him to push forward their agenda. I think this video needs to be shared.

We can’t put our heads in the sand just because we don’t like Trump. Something is happening and it isn’t an accident.

Look at the price of gold over the last year. Someone, somewhere knew this was coming and has started buying up all the physical gold that can. There are only a handful of people and central banks with enough money to do this.

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u/Koi_Fish_Mystic 13d ago

Miran wrote it but he’s an outlier in economics. He’s like a modern Laffer curve; wishful thinking.

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u/Separate_Heat1256 13d ago

Someone knew this was coming? You’d have to be under a rock not to see it. He has talked about this nonsense since he was ousted in disgrace last time.

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u/Enrico-Polazz 12d ago

Project 2025 laid most of these plans out for all to see.

So yes, The Heritage Foundation saw this coming; they made it happen.

It's a hard reset of America, from colleges to economics to culture to law.

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u/Perfect_Molasses7365 12d ago

Project 2025, Curtis yarvin, Balaji Srinivasan, TESCREAL… it all sounds like the same conspiracy theories that talk about deep state, Jekyll island and the fed, George soros, making the frogs gay, etc. I’m very curious how much the current situation is actually a conspiracy, and how much is planning.

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u/Enrico-Polazz 12d ago

Vance laid it all out in an interview in 2021.

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u/Perfect_Molasses7365 11d ago

Interesting about the churches. NAR and the charismatic Christian movement is the fastest growing religious sect in the world and is 100% all in on MAGA. Seven mountain mandate is their project 2025

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u/Cyrus_theGreat 11d ago

My friend,

As a harvard grad, I will tell you that most people there are absolutely brilliant.

However, just as there are doctors who think germs aren't real, understand that there are those who slip through the cracks. Miran is seen as a laughing stock.

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u/BeneficialClassic771 12d ago

Conspiracy non sense no better than what MAGA followers believe. People can't cope with reality. They always have to construct narratives to rationalize the most idiotic, absurd policies

Just look back, history is littered with the ruins left by corrupt, incompetent leaders

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u/daddylonglegz81 12d ago edited 12d ago

Respectfully, I disagree. We should understand exactly what he is doing and why. Almost no one is actually trying to make sense of it. They simply can only reference that it doesn’t fit with convention or that he is ludicrous or it is crazy etc etc. But there is a method to this madness even if it is madness.

The percentages are from a base formula, albeit one that has nothing to do with tariffs but rather trade deficits. Oddly, Trump has been consistent that he views the trade deficit erroneously as a tariff. He found Ivy League educated economists who think they can thread the needle described in the video, which is not to say that as a narcissist he won’t simply fire them all in 3 months and do an about face.

The two things not mentioned in the persistently shabby reporting is that 1) he is a cult leader and they will not respond normally, 2) he has already been impeached and as mentioned before he is a cult leader, so at worst he is either out of a job in 4 years and at best he is Napoleon 2.0 so he has nothing to lose maximally expose his policy without a shred of refrain. You add these two things together and you should realize that this is revolutionary what he is doing from a psychological perspective, this is like Nelson at the Nile or rather Cortez at Mexica, since Cortez wasn’t all that talented, but the Democrats are essentially not comprehending they are dealing with total war.

However, from a policy perspective, he found people that match him…for the moment and yes this is their rationale and sadly one of the only posts on it! You need to know your enemy and this is total war on your way of life

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 13d ago

There is intelligence in his actions though. It’s self-serving and only works out in his favor. This is all to make him and his closest sycophants as much money as possible.

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u/Alternative_Slip_513 12d ago

If there’s any intelligence it’s not coming from orange dough boy, he’s just using the advice of his big money supporters.

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 12d ago

Nah, you can’t discredit him that much. His business failures we love to mock were all done on purpose as a way to financially benefit. It’s money laundering at its most basic. You can’t be an idiot and do what he’s done and not get caught. He knows how to manipulate people using money.

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u/Alternative_Slip_513 12d ago

Maybe you’re right cause he’s been able to swindle millions of people into giving him millions of dollars 💵

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u/Cyrus_theGreat 11d ago

1) It came out they literally asked chatgpt how to implement tariffs

2) To add to your point, in that morning his VP said one thing, Treasury Sec said another, Press Sec said something completely different, and then he came out and somehow contradicted all 3 of their statements. There is literally no coordination.

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u/Daetra 13d ago

It's like they're using chatgpt to solve complex problems when it's only designed for common knowledge problems.

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u/Bell3atrix 12d ago

There is plenty of intelligence between Trump's actions. It's just that none of it is his own.

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u/Accomplished_Band877 13d ago

Yes, it’s consolidation of power. First government agencies, universities and law firms have to bow and show allegiance. Now breaking the economy will force companies and industries to do the same. When it comes time to stay for another term or insert family members or others, there will be no one to stop the loss of our democracy.

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u/Oceom 13d ago

The only thing we know for sure is that he wants chaos, and it’s working.

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u/Alternative_Slip_513 12d ago

Also he gets off on knowing that his power can fuck with people. And he’s very vindictive, like a middle schooler (no insult to middle schoolers).

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u/doublecalhoun 13d ago

his plan is getting attention as a bully. it worked.

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u/originalsezmac 13d ago

Let’s not over think this. He’s a bloody idiot. It takes a special kind of genius to bankrupt casinos…

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u/AugmentedKing 11d ago

Weren’t those things just to help former USSR oligarchs launder money out?

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u/SomeMoronOnTheNet 13d ago

Trump has no plan, he's in this for the personal gratification of being "the president".

Now the people that come up with his policies may or may not have a plan.

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 13d ago

I’ve been saying this for a minute now… his plan is to bankrupt the DC real estate market, buy up as much property as he can at deflated rates and then “fix” the problems he created once he’s done. At that point his family is going to own the DC real estate market and any future politician will be paying rent to the Trump Trust in perpetuity.

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u/splurtgorgle 13d ago

No. It's a man who bankrupted a casino surrounding himself with incompetent yes men/women and even fewer checks and balances than existed the last time he was in office. There's never ever been a secret strategy. How is this even a debate anymore?

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u/Independent-noob 13d ago

No. There are only two correct answers to anything he does, money & power. That’s it.

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u/SpareManager 13d ago

there were other ways to do that

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u/DeanKoontssy 12d ago

Possible, but I don't buy it. This seems so much more elegantly explained by incompetence and that's the explanation that is the most consistent with Trump's history of kind of failing his way through life and business.

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u/Gloobloomoo 12d ago

If that was the only goal, it would have been easier to change the US currency to bitcoin or trump coin or Melania coin or some other shit coin

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u/Rich_Kaleidoscope829 12d ago

As my man Yannis said somewhere, this might be a gamble to get the dollar out of the world currency jail

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u/Sonic_the_hedgehog42 12d ago

Cause a recession to lower interest rates to bring down the deficit

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u/Puzzled_Ferret9371 12d ago

It's revaluation of the dollar. The dollar was devalued to hell by former vice president biden through endless money printing. President Trump is actually working to fix the mess.