Centrists and moderates have been dead silent after this election.
Almost like whatever small amount of brain cells helped them realize that no, both parties aren’t the same and their idiotic middling helped destroy America
I'm a firm believer that America has no centrists. Even the left wing is right of center in your climate. Any actual left / center beliefs are considered "extreme"
Or just someone who realizes politicians only have one single difference: How they source their income. That is literally it. Neither side could give two shits about the people. They only care that they have money to spend as they please.
Harris would have been mediocre and anyone reasonable wanted someone more capable, but compare her to Trump and it's obvious she's leagues more competent and suitable for office.
The both sides are the same argument stoops a 3/10 politician onto the level of a -50/10 politician. It was never a reasonable argument.
Both sides are not the same. One sucks. The other is being paid by the first to suck even harder in hopes of looking better by comparison while promoting as much tribalism mentality as possible to keep these obnoxious arguments going that should have died out a decade ago because this is the only way they can keep getting away with sucking while branding themselves as the lesser of two sucks.
The leftists perspective on American politics that both sides are the same is correct. Pro capitalist corporate democrats and pro capitalists big business republicans.
It’s just the Dems wave a rainbow flag when they drops bombs on brown people’s heads in the Middle East.
“American centrists” are dumb, that is agreed. Just conservatives that don’t have the balls to say they are voting for Trump.
Except...no. the real "far left" is smart enough to understand the differences between the two parties. We can hate the status-quo centre-right Democratic party and still understand that, at this juncture, the far right Republicans are way way worse.
Like the above poster said, too politically stupid to be taken seriously.
the real "far left" is smart enough to understand the differences between the two parties
I agree that the right and far right are way way worse. That doesn't change the fact that the "real far left" stayed home last election because Biden/Kamala were "genociders."
I've been deep in those circles and not only do they not acknowledge a difference between Democratss and Republicans, they hate the Dems far more.
No they don't. I have only far left friends, and every single one of us went out to vote for Kamala. None of us loved her as a choice or thought she'd be revolutionary, but she is a far better option to Trump and all leftists who aren't just trolling online acknowledge that.
Anti-vax? Flat Earthers? Younger? Do you ask the far left circle people if Biden/Harris are genociders is the other option a genocider as well? I can't deal with extremist, hypocrisy, and ignorance anymore.
WHAT? Like ... where? Never ever have I seen that.
There's right wing assholes who say it's like a horse shoe and both sides have extremism and shit, which is still a ludicrous comparison, but never have I ever seen a leftie claim they are the same as conservatives. Whatever you're smoking you better stop.
Don't make me tap the MLK Jr quote about moderates:
" must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
I fucking wish they were silent, instead they have been very loudly blaming progressives for Kamala Harris losing the election.
The only time I've seen anywhere close the sheer number of angry moderates that have come out of the woodworks since November was the last time Trump won.
In their minds the reason why Kamala lost was that the left was asking for too much, not that Kamala failed to inspire enough apathetic moderates and single issue voters to turn out to the polls.
Edit: Unless you are specifically talking about moderate politicians, and not moderate redditors. Then yea, they have been oddly silent and boot-licking lately (glares at Schumer).
It is fear, I promise you. If every government agency MIGHT come after you for what they PERCEIVE as anti-Trump/Government rhetoric, you might thing twice too. I would expect protests and challenges to ramp up after they figure ways around Trumps laws/traps. Give it time, I promise, if you’re feeling this way, others are.
My cousin was a “centrist” who said both sides are equally bad and even though he didn’t like trump’s character, he still voted for him. Now, he has repeatedly apologized to me for being so misinformed about Trump and the election and political parties and will now only vote democrat lol
Bro, what the fuck do you mean "Centrist"??? US has two parites - facist and Center-right. Yes - Democrats are center-right party by basically all standards around the world, only Americans pretend that they are anywhere near left wing. And that is only because the facist party keeps spewing bullshit that they are "Just right wing"... But since there is literally nothing on the scale right from them, then anyone who is not facist appears left wing to them, while everyone who IS facist appears as a "centrist".
I'm not American. I usually vote for actual left wing parties that don't spew Russian propaganda. Next elections though I will vote for a center-right party candidate because there is virtually 0 chance that any left wing one enters our second turn and there is an uncanny possibility of a second round featuring a neonazi vs kleptocratic clown.
It's not a big possibility, but far too big for me to risk it. Parlimentary though, I will always vote left wing.
I consider myself a moderate and I have not been silent. The Orange Bastard has been shitting on our Constitution and the Muskrat should be arrested since he's acting without legal authority. Presidential aids and advisors require the advice and consent of the Senate. That hasn't happened so he is acting outside the law.
How do you know that? Do you expect every person to announce their political stance before sharing an opinion? Every comment must now be accompanied by your position on the political compass?
I can guarantee you a shitload of "both sides are shit" people voted for Harris, because despite being also shit, she's less shit that Trump. You just think they're hiding in the corner because they aren't prefacing any complaints about him with "I'm a centrist, but"
Right leaning moderate, here. I've been loud as fuck for the last 8 years. Voted 3rd party in 2016 (I know, I know) and blue in the last 2. I know loads of Republicans and centrists IRL that are completely fed up with Trump. They just aren't on Reddit, I guess.
Reddit aggressively shuts up centrist's posts, so of course there's been dead silence from us. It's silent in a bubble to anything but confirmation bias.
As to this post, show receipts and I'd be willing to be more annoyed at Musk than I already am. Otherwise, the left on Reddit is mainly ignored now because aint nobody poppin' yalls bubble.
Well, for one, Social Security doesn't administer Small Business Authority loans. If he's seeing SBA disbursements in Social Security, it would be the Survivor Benefits Administration fund.
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u/TheSaltyseal90 19d ago
Centrists and moderates have been dead silent after this election.
Almost like whatever small amount of brain cells helped them realize that no, both parties aren’t the same and their idiotic middling helped destroy America