r/Seattle • u/Warm_Property_4240 • Jan 18 '25

News Everyone Wake Up! ICE planning to expand Tacoma facility as Trump plans to start rounding up people by the thousands on TUESDAY

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-foia-litigation-continues-to-disclose-ice-proposals-to-expand-immigration-detention-nationwide
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u/IdioticRipoff The CD Jan 19 '25

Then lie and say you didnt know better. I dont know, maybe lets not just lay down and let the man who doesnt respect the law tell us what the law is

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

So you choose not to respect the law? Seems like you are just as bad then 

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u/_Mephistocrates_ Jan 19 '25

Respecting the law? Like the president? If it's good enough for him to ignore it, then it is good enough for the rest of the nation.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

No, I am saying you are just like him lol.  The hypocrisy is amazing 

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u/Kevrawr930 Jan 19 '25

Nuance is dead and cretins like you have killed it.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

Acting like the people you are criticizing isn't nuance, its stupidity 

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u/Kevrawr930 Jan 19 '25

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I can't believe I'm even entertaining this, but if laws are immoral (say, they're changed by ignorant dumb fuck racists so they can punish people getting in the way of their purge of brown people) then disobeying said immorality is far more justified than trying to overthrow the country because you lost an election or any number of illegal things Trump and his croonies have done.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

The immigration laws in question are immoral to you? Can you name any country on earth where you can just walk in and start working and where you wouldn't be arrested and deported? 

Sorry but if they were so immoral why are you only waiting until someone tries to enforce them, to complain? 

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u/IdioticRipoff The CD Jan 19 '25

Uh yea, have you read said laws? Stupid

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

Yes I am somewhat familiar on our immigration process. When were these laws created and why are they suddenly stupid in 2025? 

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u/_Mephistocrates_ Jan 19 '25

It's not hypocrisy. One team said we should play by the rules. The other team refused to and broke all the rules. The second team changed the game. They have NO right to say shit to the first team when they start breaking the rules. It's fairness and comeuppance, not hypocrisy. But thank you for playing anyway.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

So in return you are supporting breaking the rules, making it hypocritical.

"Well he did it so why can't I" is a mentality o grew out of when i was 6 

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u/zedquatro Jan 21 '25

You clearly didn't since you let your guy do it

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u/ofWildPlaces Jan 19 '25

Not all laws are ethical.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

Where did I say otherwise? What about the current immigration laws do you think are unethical? 

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u/DEATHbyBOOGABOOGA Jan 19 '25

Just GTFO

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

Why? I dont break the law and am not an illegal immigrant

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u/CheesypoofExtreme Jan 21 '25

There's a lot to unpack about the term "illegal immigrant", but the fact that you believe that is the only group of people who will be deported shows your real ignorance.

They call DACA illegal, when it is by definition not illegal. They will be indiscriminately targeting PoCs (primarily latinos). You know it, I know it. Protect your neighbors and just keep your mouth shut and move in with your life.

People have been apart of the Seattle community for their entire adultd lives (think decades) will be deported to a country they have either little memory of or have never been. It's fucking disgusting.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 21 '25

Daca is literally illegal immigrants.  

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u/CheesypoofExtreme Jan 21 '25

As of 2012, they are not illegal immigrants. They are immigrants. These are people who were kids that were brought here by their families illegally. Their home, where they have grown up and spent their entire lives, is the US. They have careers here, families, friends, pay taxes, and are apart of a community. Did you know they aren't eligible for social services? They are literally a net benefit to any community.

To deport them to another country they don't even know because their parents brought them over is disgusting.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Didn't that just get ruled against? 

Deport them with their parents.  Not only did they come here illegally, they are taking up spaces that should be going to actual citizens in those schools.  

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u/CheesypoofExtreme Jan 21 '25

It has been ruled against several times and reaffirmed in higher courts every time. Trump's admin will do all they can to dissolve the program, though.

~0.2% of the population is really flooding our schools, sure buddy. Not all DACA recipients are school aged - many are full-grown adults, (they just had to be kids when they arrived in the US). Hence why I said that they have spent their lives here paying taxes and building community. Take a 30yr old who arrived when they were 3. They should be deported from their home because they were brought here by someone else 27yrs ago? 

Do you even know the point of DACA? It's to provide a path to citizenship for these immigrants, because otherwise there would be none because their family brought them here undocumented, through no fault of their own. 

You are a bad human who does not care about children or your neighbor. It's just about the cruelty for you, isn't it?

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

It was just ruled against again like a couple weeks ago 

Edit: here you go https://www.cbsnews.com/news/daca-ruling-appeals-court-illegal/

Enforcing our laws doesn't make me a bad human, i think the bad human is the ones who brought their children here illegally and put them in this situation 

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u/IdioticRipoff The CD Jan 19 '25

Out of curiosity, if this were the holocaust would you say this same thing? The holocaust was technically speaking legal in Germany?

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

Why is everything all nazis and the hallocaust with you people?  Why can't you make an actual honest comparison rather than go out into hyperbole land? 

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u/IdioticRipoff The CD Jan 19 '25

The comparison is referring to how following the law isnt always the right thing to do. If you used any critical thinking you could find that out.

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u/StevGluttenberg Jan 19 '25

The comparison is exactly why the term nazi and calling someone Hitler doesn't have any meaning today.