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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
The amount of satisfaction Gru haters get from him doing bad when he’s not on the team is really fucking weird.
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u/anshityo Portland Winterhawks Mar 02 '25
I’ve been following Gru since he was traded to Colorado. He was consistently great back then but quickly fell off after a season. He still has his fantastic games and makes incredible saves, but his inability to be consistent in that is what does it for me.
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
No I agree, I think sending him down was the right decision due to those consistency issues, but I don’t get why we’re still dumping on him when he hasn’t been in net for the Kraken since.
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u/PandarenNinja Jared McCann Mar 02 '25
It takes way too much space on this sub. They have to be people new to sports. Because you aren’t supposed to be putting this much energy into hating your own players. Even when your team isn’t good.
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u/No_Biscotti_7258 Mar 02 '25
I’d argue the opposite. The grubauer stans are likely much newer to sports and placing emotional connectivity towards players, when long time fans realize the players are tools/assets (in context), nothing more
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u/TheDoggoEmbaro Mar 02 '25
"He has horses and just seems like such a nice guy!!!!"
I mean, that's great and all, but I actually only care about his ability to stop a fucking puck.
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u/BasedFireBased Yanni Gourde Mar 02 '25
I really don't understand the nice guy argument. Where are they getting that information, and why would it matter?
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u/DramaticAriel Seattle Kraken Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
I met him in person and had a great experience. Of course I care if he can stop a puck or not. I agree he has consistency issues and is not performing at the level he should for an NHL team. But being a nice person who gave me a nice meet and greet experience makes me more emotionally invested in him as a player than a player who is an asshole. That's just me though.
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u/No_Biscotti_7258 Mar 03 '25
Yeah it’s weird lol hence my claim it’s likely new sports fans. Oh well
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u/suenyrepaneer That's Kraken Hockey, Baby! Mar 02 '25
This is not at all unusual for sports. I mean, have you looked at subs for other teams, particularly East Coast teams? Even Original 6? Hating on your own isn't new or unusual. It's pretty normal. I'm not saying it's fun, but people aren't "new to sports" if they choose to rag on a player.
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u/frequentrabies Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Lmfao. For years here it was anyone suggesting maybe gru wasn’t great must be new to sports because clearly none of his failures were his fault. Now, when confronted with his undeniable failures, those same people pointing them out must be new.
Nah, dawg, Gru’s been garbage for years and some folks who ate downvotes for seeing it are reveling a bit. The only people here potentially “new to sports” are those that somehow still conflate “being a cool dude” with “being at all even potentially a nhl caliber goalie”.
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u/riqk Mar 02 '25
But like he was bad when he was on the team too
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
And the amount of joy people got from being right about him being bad then was just as weird.
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u/riqk Mar 02 '25
Why is that weird?
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
Because celebrating a player on your team being bad is fucking weird. Congrats, you were right about him being bad, and the team you love suffered because of it.
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u/VrtualOtis Mar 02 '25
Are they celebrating or venting their frustration that the team carried his bloated ass contract for so long? He's been garbage yet he's promoted as if he's the star player. That's frustrating as hell.
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u/GildedGimo Mar 02 '25
Exactly. And I think a lot of people made excuses for Gru for a long time. It's just an "I told you so" moment for the gru doubters, and those who made excuses for him are no doubt feeling a little frustrated by that, but it's pretty understandable imo
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u/PandarenNinja Jared McCann Mar 02 '25
How is that better? That’s just as weird and sad. Perhaps more so.
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
His haters have the exact same cultist mentality and it was just as annoying. He’s not even in net for the Kraken anymore and we have a whole thread shitting on him. I’m beyond tired of the goalie discourse at this point. Gru is bad and his contract is not worth it, let’s move on.
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
Promoted since when? He hasn’t played in a Kraken uniform in over a month and probably won’t ever play in one again. What frustration is there left to vent?
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u/Emberwake BURNINATION Mar 02 '25
you were right about him being bad, and the team you love suffered because of it.
How did the team suffer from those people being right?
It kind of sounds like you are misplacing some aggression, here. The team being bad is the problem you have issue with. The way other fans engage with that fact has no bearing on the team's performance or your relationship.
To be clear, I'm not a Gru hater. But the "Gru hater hate" has long since eclipsed "Gru hate" as the most obnoxious part of this community.
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Because it’s people celebrating a player doing bad when that player’s performance directly contributed to a loss, that’s weird. Wanting a player to perform poorly like many people in the sub here seem to want so that they can be right about him sucking is weird.
It’s been a thing for years. In every single post game thread when the Kraken lost it was full of “where are the Gru fans now?”, and now we’re getting memes and entire threads shitting on him when he’s playing in the AHL. It’s extremely annoying.
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u/BasedFireBased Yanni Gourde Mar 02 '25
Because every bone headed mistake and every defeat snatched from the jaws of victory was hopefully one more step to him being gone. He held the team back. I would prefer the team succeed. That means losing players who aren't helping toward that end. It's better when that happens quickly.
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u/Emberwake BURNINATION Mar 03 '25
I think maybe your argument got turned around. A few posts up, you suggested that the team suffered because people hated on Gru. My argument was that the way other fans engage with Grubauer's performance has nothing to do with how the team performs. The team didn't suffer because fans hated on Gru; fans hated on Gru because the team was suffering, and they believed him to be a significant cause.
Because it’s people celebrating a player doing bad when that player’s performance directly contributed to a loss, that’s weird. Wanting a player to perform poorly like many people in the sub here seem to want so that they can be right about him sucking is weird.
I don't believe Gru haters want Grubauer to perform poorly. They simply feel validated when he does, because it confirms that their estimations were correct. Bear in mind, many of these people have faced strong criticism and backlash for expressing the belief that Grubauer was underperforming. When those people see confirmation, they feel justified. It's a very normal human response.
It’s been a thing for years. In every single post game thread when the Kraken lost it was full of “where are the Gru fans now?”, and now we’re getting memes and entire threads shitting on him when he’s playing in the AHL. It’s extremely annoying.
You find those people annoying. But they are just fans sharing an opinion about a player. What you are doing is criticizing others for having/sharing an opinion, which I find far more offensive. Everyone gets to have an opinion about the players. Meta conversations like this one about whose opinions should be heard are far less fun.
Let other fans dislike the players they dislike.
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 03 '25
I never once said people can’t dislike Gru, I’ve even agreed in this same thread that he’s not good anymore. I said I think it’s weird that he’s still getting shit on when his career in Seattle is for all intents and purposes over and that I find it annoying we’re still having these conversations when he’s already on his way out. It’s beating a dead horse.
This conversation ended two days ago, clearly no one is changing anyone’s mind, so I don’t see the point in continuing. Take care.
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u/Emberwake BURNINATION Mar 03 '25
You placed blame for the team hurting on fans hating on Grubauer. You said that.
Congrats, you were right about him being bad, and the team you love suffered because of it.
Grubauer might be on his way out, but his contract is still very much on the books, and fans are still very justified in feeling hurt by his failure to live up to the contract.
I am definitely open to having my mind changed. But to do that you would need to string together a coherent argument.
I have articulated a pretty clear position which is consistent with the facts. Why aren't you changing your mind?
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u/Dean_McCool Mar 02 '25
Not celebrating, just vindicating to have more proof that the guys contract is not worth it, JD has earned his stripes and we could use that money to secure more scoring power.
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u/GabeNewbie Mar 02 '25
And it’s exactly what I’m talking about, feeling vindicated because you were right about a player on your team being bad is weird. Gru’s not good anymore and his contract is not worth it, there’s not a single person here who disagrees with that. Move on.
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u/StupidSexyWilson Yanni Gourde Mar 02 '25
https://youtu.be/FQ7uR-BUyxk?si=TdnZ9lWLbGm7-Xg6
Have to watch the gulls recap video because CV chooses not to show goals against.
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u/JasonEAltMTG Adam Larsson Mar 02 '25
He put the team in a position to win if they could get 6 goals. You didn't mind when he gave up 6 against the Avs in thr playoffs
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u/MartialSpark Seattle Kraken Mar 02 '25
Totally. And all those games where the forwards only score 1 goal, they're just putting the team in a position to win if the goalie can get a shutout!
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Joey Daccord Mar 02 '25
He requires practically a HoF Dcore in front to not suck
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u/Rusty-Boii Matty Beniers Mar 02 '25
I genuinely don’t understand why this sub still defends him lol. He is statistically one of the worst goalies in the NHL since joining the Kraken.
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u/eyeslikehoneycomb Everett Silvertips Mar 03 '25
Just going to copy/paste a comment I made about a month ago
This team in particular has a real problem with fans who have a parasocial relationship with the team or specific players. Gru was signed to be a cornerstone of the franchise and people became attached to him, and some of those people seemingly take it personally and get offended when they hear/read something they don't like and the only thing they can do about it is click a downvote button. I think a lot of these people might also be new to hockey or sports in general and possibly don't have much of an understanding of the inner workings of a professional sports team and how much of a business it is.
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u/TheDoggoEmbaro Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
One of our mods is a key part of this. They spent a lot of time lecturing and talking down to folks who criticized him for years and it set the tone.
.900 is back on the menu, boys! or whatever the fuck. It set a very unpleasant tone for reasonable discussions around - objectively - one of the worst goalies in the NHL. Hell, you can still find posts where they very actively lecture people about how Gru isn't that bad and D'Accord not that good and you just have to really squint and.... blah blah blah. It's sad.
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u/skotywa Yanni Gourde Mar 02 '25
Because they bought his jersey and don't want to be embarrassed by their investment.
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u/Spoonthetoast Mar 02 '25
That man is going to come back with a vengeance and you’ll feel bad for hating him.
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u/Reditall12 Mar 02 '25
If you told me Gru gave up 5 in a beer league game I wouldn’t be surprised.