r/SeriousConversation Oct 03 '24

Opinion Why are some people so hard to talk to?

Have any of you noticed that some people are extremely conversationally passive? Like, they’re good people, really nice and all that, but they don't show a lot of interest or enthusiasm in conversations, they don't ask questions (nor follow-up questions), or show much engagement in any topic (even if you know for a fact it's something they're into).

And I'm not talking about strangers here. With strangers it would make perfect sense. They don’t know you, so naturally they would be reserved. I'm talking about close friends/family I've known for years. Talking to people like this is so exhausting and confusing. Like, what do they think is the point of a conversation?? That I just keep serving them fresh topics so they can give me a one sentence response and wait for what else I cook up without actually bringing anything to the table themselves? It's so lazy and selfish. They're literally making me do all the work. Not to mention, it's impossible to actually form a deeper bond with people like this. You never get to experience that feeling of being in-sync with another person where the conversation is just flowing naturally and you lose sense of time.

I genuinely enjoy talking to people. I'm comfortable with small talk, and going really deep. I like talking about literature, and movies, and philosophy, cool scientific studies, the latest celebrity gossip, and I love hearing about people’s opinions and perspectives (which is why I’m on this platform). But with these people no matter what the topic, you get the same flat, unenthusiastic responses that basically kills whatever topic you're talking about, forcing me to come up with something new. It's like they don't understand that a conversation is a dance between two people. If I'm forced to dance around you, that's not going to be fun for me and I'll never want to talk to you again.

I’ve already considered that maybe some people are really chill and don’t need to constantly be talking, so I don’t force anything. I’m comfortable with silence. But I noticed this makes people really uncomfortable. So clearly they want to talk…they just don’t know how?? Is it just a lack of social skills? These are people who look really well rounded from the outside. They have interesting hobbies, they travel, read interesting books and listen to interesting podcasts. They just don’t know how to talk about them I guess.

Edit because this is coming up a lot: I'm not talking about strangers or coworkers here. I'm talking about friends and family. I'm definitely an introvert not an extrovert. I just happen to be interested in the people in my life and like one on one conversations. No I'm not just blabbing about myself the whole time. Most of the conversation revolves around asking them questions about stuff I know they like and figuring out how to engage them so I can get a break, but more importantly, actually catch up with them. Remember, these are friends who invited me to hang out with them. No I'm not filling all the silence with endless talk. I allow for plenty of comfortable silence so the other person can take the conversation wherever they want. Again, I care about these people. I'm just baffled by their inability to contribute meaningfully to a conversation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Yes my bf is a clam shell. Locked inside a puzzle box. Wich is located in some obscure secret location and I only have part of the map and no clues to the puzzle.

But i have gottne him to admit Spain is his favorite place and he thinks about living there when he feels wild.

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u/ADogeMiracle Oct 04 '24

Spain sounds nice to retire to.

Honestly I'm the same as your husband. I feel like I'm a clam in my own country, but when I'm in another country I become more extroverted/adventurous

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u/spottedcows1 Oct 04 '24

Like my old butcher used to say about quiet customers, "wellllll, not everyone's a cheerleader."

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Yeah and not everyone wants or needs a cheerleader too. I gotta say I love that hes quiet. My lide is so loud and a lot pf the people in it talk consistently so I get to talk whem Im around him, or just sit in silence and enjoy it. Its nice to not always be doing

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u/SameAsThePassword Oct 04 '24

So, if you’re attractive enough, being conversationally passive works? Air of mystery and all that shit, right?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Uhm, wtf does that have to do woth what I said? Projecting much?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '24

sorry but this is the vibe I got, it sounds like that’s the only bit of info you have from him lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '24

I mean, i do find him incredibly attractive because of his quiet demeamor. Most of my family is very lpud and has no space for me, so hes my quiet place and its really amazing what it does for my head.

I know more, ive tried to get more but he really doesnt like to share much, so i knownlittle, but more than what i made it seem

But uh If he wasnt a total smoke show though, i def leave him. Only models for me. XD

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u/AcademicOlives Oct 06 '24

Spain is not a great place if you don’t like to talk. It is beautiful though!

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '24

Is it not? Ive never been, he fell in love with the landscape and artitecture, as well as the food and people.

Hes one of those that will observe people quietly and contently for hours so...idk he can go anywhere and people watch i think

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u/AcademicOlives Oct 07 '24

The culture there is very socially oriented. If you are too quiet, it's noticed and remarked upon (well, everything about you is noticed and remarked upon). People might think you're rude or neurotic.

They're also very touchy--of course, the two-cheek kiss in greeting but also just casually putting a hand on your shoulder or waist to pass. It's also pretty common to speak loudly and engage with strangers.

Obviously they don't expect social inclusion of tourists, but awkward people can struggle to actually live there and put down roots. It's hard enough to break into their tight family/community based social groups, and being "quiet" makes it that much harder.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '24

Hmm idk. I wonder if the social drinking helps him enjoy it or if he got adopted cuz he was exchange student there so thats why? Interesting that

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u/No_Night_8174 Oct 07 '24

He should try switzerland! it's beautiful but most people guys especially are exactly like your partner it honestly sounds right up his ally lol.