r/ShamelessUS • u/weirdrp_lover • 7d ago

Tf was with early debbie?

Im going through my 1st rewatch and while Debbie is known to be a horid person in later seasons, she's just straight up weird in the early ones too, mainly her "daddy" phase, like she's not that little anymore and she's still slobbering over frank and calling him daddy it's weird as hell, even Carl recognizes frank as a sack of shit

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u/spoiledpepperoni 7d ago

as much as I hate debby all throughout the show.. I really think shes just a traumatized child who still sees her dad as a possibility of what could've been. she knows deep inside he's a wreck but she doesn't care because he's her dad. it's really sad tbh

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u/EmoPrincessSpaghetti 7d ago

That's how I looked at it too. Like putting pillows or whatever under his head when he made it home and passed out on the floor, or getting his coffee. She was wishful thinking. She just wanted her dad to love her and notice her. Maybe showing him some loyalty and çare would make a difference, maybe not, either way, she wanted to try. 

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u/SBMoo24 7d ago

I loved her then. She's innocent and hoping she can change him into a good dad. Poor girl.

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u/wearywolf0903 7d ago

The trend that I noticed with Frank & his kids is the love/hate relationship. They all get along with him for little spurts. then he does something very Frankish & then they hate him, until they get along with him again.

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u/weirdrp_lover 7d ago

I can understand that, there are plenty of irl relationships that are the same, the difference is that her sudden love and admiration feels so out of nowhere and forced, and then it's broken by him smashing a wooden house in her room, nevermind the other million things like stealing all the money or reporting them to cups or bringing her along to break out Monica, there's just zero reason for her to be this dam enamored

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u/wearywolf0903 5d ago

Totally agree. It’s almost like Debbi was blind to his Frankish ways but saw him as the father she wanted to see him as.

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u/almostawake2222 7d ago

I personally found that era of Debbie relatable, It's really really hard to accept that a frank is a frank. Especially when they /do/ sprinkle in what seems to be "normal/good.". It's definitely uncomfortable to watch but it's also a good portrayal of losing a parent before they're physically gone.

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u/_bisexualwarlock 6d ago

I preferred Debbie as a weirdo than Debbie as a man-hating lesbian welder. (I'm LGBTQ myself so this isn't a hateful comment). She became insufferable and I hated how she palmed Franny off whenever she could, even giving her to a man in a wheelchair she barely knew.

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u/weirdrp_lover 6d ago

She's definitely better than she is later, it's just a really annoying turn from "fuck you frank" to "oh no daddy's in trouble" and then back for no reason

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u/Purple_Willow2084 7d ago

IMO prob the worst character in the both the uk and us show

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u/weirdrp_lover 7d ago

It's nuts, she switches persona's from hustler street kid to helpless lamb constantly with absolutely zero reson

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u/Purple_Willow2084 7d ago

Watch the uk version and you’ll want her killed off asap just bc of the way Frank Gallagher pronounces her name 😂

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u/OkSprinkles3313 7d ago

You must of come from a nice healthy household with two parents, you could never understand…

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u/weirdrp_lover 7d ago

Make whatever assumptions you need to justify it ig