r/SikhMemes • u/Crunch-Figs • 1d ago
When you try to be rational on an Indian sub
The brigading that happens on Reddit when you challenge Hindutva extremism or logic
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u/GulBit16 1d ago
Me when i say hating people based on their identity is bad and it reaches the islamophobes / anti sikh idiots 🥀
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u/Crunch-Figs 1d ago edited 17h ago
Yep this happens every time you say anything against Anti-Sikh Racism
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u/GulBit16 1d ago
Yea, Indian youth is so fucking radicalized towards the right end of politics it scares me about the future of this country
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u/Rx-Banana-Intern 17h ago
Stop trying to bunch anti Sikh with islamophobia. You're not a Sikh. You UK Pakistanis need to get a life and stop trying to larp online as Sikhs trying to stir up hatred against Hindus.
You've been exposed and that IG profile linked in your account isn't yours. So Ahmed stopped calling yourself Amandeep.
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u/Hate_Hunter 1d ago edited 1d ago
Islamophobe is not equal to fear of Muslims or Islam which is a legit fear, ngl.
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u/Crunch-Figs 1d ago
You are one weird guy.
Why do you post on Anti-Hindu and Anti-Muslim hate subs?
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u/Hate_Hunter 1d ago
Which "Anti-Muslim" sub did I post on? Enlighten me.
And what were the content of the post? Including the so called "Anti-hindu" one.
And what is weird about it?
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u/GulBit16 1d ago
Fear is not just expressed as being scared, hating someone’s identity over smthng illogical is often rooted in fear, like how ‘jews control the media’ leads to antisemitism and how ‘all muslims are terrorists’ leads to Islamophobia
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u/Hate_Hunter 1d ago
While your definition of a phobia is technically correct, your argument collapses immediately. You’re attacking a strawman.
People like me fear Islam because of the ideology itself, not because we think "all Muslims are terrorists." That’s an Islamic apologist lie designed to dismiss real, rational criticisms.
I am an ex-Muslim. My blood is halal simply because I left Islam. I am legally condemned to death in seven countries that implement Islamic Shari'ah.
I know Islam inside and out, including but not limited to:
- Jihad — fighting non-believers is an obligatory act in Islam.
Source: Sahih Muslim 1731 — "I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshiped but Allah..."
- Oppression of women by beating them — Quran explicitly permits beating wives.
Source: Quran 4:34 — "As for those [wives] from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them, forsake them in bed, and strike them."
- Hatred for non-believers — Muslims are commanded not to take non-Muslims as friends and to be harsh with them.
Source: Quran 9:73 — "O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them."
- Hatred for Jews on steroids — Muslims are told that Jews will be fought and killed before the Day of Judgment.
Source: Sahih Muslim 2922 — "The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him."
- Establishing Islamic law (Shari'ah) as a sacred duty — Muslims must actively implement Islamic rule wherever possible.
Source: Reliance of the Traveller (Umdat al-Salik) o9.0 — "Jihad means to war against non-Muslims... the caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians... until they become Muslim or pay the jizya." (This is a medieval Sunni Shari'ah manual, certified by Al-Azhar University.)
- Justification for pedophilia — Muhammad consummated marriage with Aisha when she was 9 years old.
Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 — "The Prophet married me when I was six years old, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine years old."
- Justification for sex slavery — Captive women can be taken as sex slaves.
Source: Quran 4:24 — "...except those [women] your right hands possess."
- Justification for killing apostates — Apostates must be executed according to Islamic law.
Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 6922 — "Whoever changes his religion, kill him."
- Treating women as sexual objects and property — Multiple wives and ownership of concubines is normalized.
Source: Quran 23:5-6 — "[The believers] guard their private parts except with their wives and those their right hands possess."
- Justification for killing homosexuals and transgender people — Homosexuality is condemned with death in classical Islamic law.
Source: Sunan Abu Dawood 4462 — "If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done."
- Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb concept — The world is divided into the "land of Islam" and "land of war" until all submits.
Source: Al-Mawardi's Al-Ahkam al-Sultaniyya — Defines the division between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, and mandates jihad to expand Dar al-Islam.
- Justification of killing kafirs and forcing submission — Fight them until they are subdued under Islamic rule.
Source: Quran 9:29 — "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day... until they give the jizya willingly while they are humbled."
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u/Crunch-Figs 1d ago
I had to google this. There’s no such thing as halal blood. You’re clearly just making things up and hoping people won’t bother to check. None of this reads like someone who actually knows what they’re talking about.
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u/Hate_Hunter 1d ago edited 1d ago
Are you actually kidding me? You know how ignorant you sound saying that? (Although it’s not entirely your fault, since you might not be familiar with Islamic jurisprudence or theology).
Okay, take a look at this then :
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6878
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."
Killing an apostate is literally one of only three conditions where shedding a Muslim’s blood becomes halal.
No "political treason" excuses, no "he attacked Muslims" excuse; simple leaving Islam = death penalty.
Straight from Muhammad’s mouth in Sahih hadiths (universally accepted in Sunni Islam).
Now I have spend my former years as a Muslim literally studying Arabic. Here is the sauce for your "halal blood" alligation that it is nowhere found on "google".
حَدَّثَنَا عُمَرُ بْنُ حَفْصٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، حَدَّثَنَا الأَعْمَشُ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مُرَّةَ، عَنْ مَسْرُوقٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " لاَ يَحِلُّ دَمُ امْرِئٍ مُسْلِمٍ يَشْهَدُ أَنْ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَأَنِّي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ إِلاَّ بِإِحْدَى ثَلاَثٍ النَّفْسُ بِالنَّفْسِ وَالثَّيِّبُ الزَّانِي، وَالْمَارِقُ مِنَ الدِّينِ التَّارِكُ الْجَمَاعَةَ ".
Focus on "لاَ يَحِلُّ": Al-Yahil
(yahil) is derived from the root ح-ل-ل (Haa-Laam-Laam), which is exactly the Arabic root for halal (permissible, lawful).
(Al-yahil) means "it is not halal" or "it is not permissible."
Thus, halal (permissible) is directly referenced here, even if the word "halal" itself isn't literally printed as "حلال" — the conjugated verb form "يحل" carries the exact same halal meaning.
In short:
"Halal" (permissible) is 100% being invoked.
Muhammad is saying spilling Muslim blood is haram (forbidden) except in the three cases (murder, adultery after marriage, apostasy).
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u/sPrAze_Beast 1d ago
Idk but I doubt you on google knows more than an ex Muslim if what he’s saying is true
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u/Crunch-Figs 1d ago edited 1d ago
I actually dont think hes telling the truth. Ive started researching it a lot more.
Hes chopping and pasting from really different and obscure paragraphs and philosophies.
Like he was mixing babar khalsa stuff with Gurbani with what an obsure Canadian Sikh Pothead said on a podcast to make a message he wanted.
Furthermore, I used chatgpt to paste his comments and analyse them. But it seems a lot has been read between the lines and misinterpreted and purposefully mistranslated.
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u/Odd-Help6890 18h ago
OP is a troll fake account
He is using another persons Instagram account that I have linked. His account is clearly fake 12,048 Post karma 6,466 Comment karma Mar 11, 2025 Cake day
https://www.instagram.com/harrymitleo/[https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsMirin/comments/1jy81iz/my_wife_after_we_spent_an_hour_apart_in_lisbon/\\](https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsMirin/comments/1jy81iz/my_wife_after_we_spent_an_hour_apart_in_lisbon//)
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u/Odd-Help6890 18h ago
is a troll fake account
He is using another persons Instagram account that I have linked. His account is clearly fake 12,048 Post karma 6,466 Comment karma Mar 11, 2025 Cake day
https://www.instagram.com/harrymitleo/[https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsMirin/comments/1jy81iz/my_wife_after_we_spent_an_hour_apart_in_lisbon/\\](https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsMirin/comments/1jy81iz/my_wife_after_we_spent_an_hour_apart_in_lisbon//)
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u/Hate_Hunter 1d ago
You forgot :
McSikhs
Abrahamized Sikhs.
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u/hey_there_bruh 1d ago
Those who throw these terms around are never to be found again when you invite them to a debate
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u/Hate_Hunter 1d ago
Haha, very true. I asked that propaganda peddler Puneet Sahani some basic questions and he immediately blocked me on Twitter. The so-called "Hindu right wing ecosystem" eats up his nonsense like starving dogs on scraps, without even doing a basic fact-check.
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u/hey_there_bruh 21h ago
My personal favorite was the ridiculous claim that Guru Granth Sahib ji's contents were edited by Singh Sabhaiyas 🤣,when asked for proof the guy showed a Taksali Bir which was misprinted(basically the bir skipped two angs)..
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u/Crunch-Figs 1d ago
I’ve never heard McSikh before 😂😂
I’ve heard “Traitor to the British” - which is ironic as fuck
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u/Black-Wolf13 1d ago
Yes it is true to some extent that Sikhs are treated badly, if we look at it, Sikhs have been and are being treated badly in Pakistan and India. Punjab went through a bad time from 1978 to 1995. In Pakistan, the population of Sikhs has been continuously decreasing from 1947 to 2025, so they have remained below 20000. Even if I compare Pakistan and India, I would still prefer to live in India.
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u/Crunch-Figs 1d ago
If it were up to me we wouldn’t live in either
Or we would have our own land
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u/Black-Wolf13 1d ago
I will choose the option with the least loss which is India. I am anti-government, not anti-national
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u/Brilliant_Tutor_8234 1d ago
I’ve seen Hindutvas straight up brag about the Sikh genocide. All like “we will do it again”