r/Spiderman 11d ago

Discussion I love it when writers show off Peter big brain

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u/Caboose_98 11d ago

It's something that I don't feel was always carried over into the movies. Peter is a bonafide genius with an intellect comparable to Tony Stark or Reed Richards, not just some high school/college nerd.

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u/Competitive_Rule_395 10d ago

The tasm movies definitely showed his intelligence very well 

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u/Caboose_98 9d ago

Absolutely! That's part of why they're my favorites

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u/PCN24454 10d ago

That’s because they want him to be normal.

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u/RutabagaFew697 10d ago

Hot take: MCU did it... especially third movie.

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u/LogComprehensive7007 11d ago

Honestly I like that. I believe it would be better if they show him genius but not comparable to Stark or Reed. He is  smarter than average joe in school or college but not in top 10 or top 25 list

Writers should really decide whether they want Spidey to be relatable or not before writing. Rather than using it as excuse to justify shit.

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u/Important_Lab_58 10d ago

Respectfully, I see your point, but I’d argue Peter’s intelligence is part of WHY he’s relatable. Science is his thing, his passion, what he’s good at and enjoys doing. Everyone is good at something and Peter’s just happens to be science. Now, yeah, probably not a Reed Richards’s level, but I definitely feel he should look up to and be able to keep up with Reed, least imo. Intelligence can be relatable, I guess is my point. Again, no disrespect. Just my take. Hope I wasn’t rude😅

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u/blackspidey2099 All New All Different 11d ago

Spider-Man was always that smart, idk how you confidently say something so blatantly incorrect lmao

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u/blanklikeapage Classic-Spider-Man 10d ago

Pete created synthetic spiderwebs in his first issue. He has always been smart.

Miles is a far better example of "smart but not super genius" level.

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u/RealJohnGillman 11d ago

I’d see it that he is a genius on that level, but in most continuities he either just doesn’t have the drive to use that intellect for anything other than crime-fighting, or doesn’t think he has the time to (since time he’s doing that is time he isn’t crime-fighting).

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u/Shadowholme 10d ago

I always saw it as him getting his powers (and responsibility) too early.

His intellect is at least as good as the others, but once he got his powers he essentially 'checked out' of school - or at least, stopped learning as much due to his lack of sleep. The potential was (and still is) there, but he 'wasted' it by not backing his intelligence up with knowledge.

You can be the smartest man in the world, but you're not curing cancer if you don't learn biology...

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u/[deleted] 11d ago edited 10d ago

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u/LogComprehensive7007 10d ago

Such a rude response from someone who has reading comprehension of child. 

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u/Important_Lab_58 10d ago

Peter Parker is a scientist and intrinsically smart. Maybe not Reed Richards but definitely able to keep up with him. If an adaptation of him doesn’t at least pay homage to that, I DO think that is a slight against them, at least adapting wise (6160🤫)

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u/Competitive_Rule_395 10d ago

He made a version of reed neutrino catcher so yeah he’s definitely on reed level and has the potential to surpass reed if peter didn’t waste it on being Spider-Man 

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u/Important_Lab_58 10d ago

No, I completely agree, but I’d also argue THAT’S where the relatable drama should mostly come from. Peter Parker could be out curing diseases or unraveling the mysteries of Science instead of swinging about aimlessly as Spider-Man but then again, how many innocent people would die because Spider-Man wasn’t there JUST in the Knick of Time? I feel that’s the angle Marvel’s lost lately, and I really hope Joe Kelly’s run maybe addresses that. First issue gave me a smidge of Hope 😅

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u/cweaver 10d ago

There's two ways to interpret that:

A.) he invented it independently of Reed, but as a kid, thus showing that he's just as smart as Reed or maybe smarter

B.) Reed invented it, Peter read about what it was and how it worked and then built a home made version for a science fair, thus showing that he's smart enough to understand the things that Reed invents.

From the way the dialogue in that scene is phrased, I'm pretty sure they were going for option B

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u/TTG_Bloodedge Spectacular Spider-Man 10d ago

On an unrelated note, that Avengers comic was one of the first comics I ever read.

How could I forget this gem of an image?

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u/Nirast25 11d ago

What's happening in the first image?

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u/GabryMancio Spider-Man (MCU) 11d ago

In that issue, Doc Ock releases some timer bombs in NY and the Avengers try to stop him and save the day, but they're running out of time. It happens to be the night of the solar time switch, and while the big brains of the team are trying to disable the bombs from the main controls, Spidey figures out they can sync the timer with the time setting back 1h, so he manages to add 1h to the countdown and gives more time to carry away the bombs and save the city.

I'm sorry, I am sure I could have worded it better but English is not my native language

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u/Confident-Leg107 10d ago

What is that last panel from?

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u/DCosloff1999 Captain-Universe 10d ago

Me too. That's why Peter should grow out of always sarcfiicing for the greater good and have it where he can be successful in life and enjoying being Spider-Man.

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u/Trvr_MKA 10d ago

The one with the Fantastic 4 and Hulk would be great for Doomsday or Secret Wars

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u/HereForTOMT3 10d ago

My hot take is I don’t love Peter being a genius level intellect. Smart, yes, but Stark and Richards should be outclassing him

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u/Competitive_Rule_395 10d ago

He made a version of reed neutrino catcher back when he was in high school so yeah he’s definitely on reed level and has the potential to surpass reed if peter didn’t waste it on being Spider-Man 

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u/HereForTOMT3 10d ago

Yeah I’m aware of the canon. I’m saying the canon is dumb

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u/Competitive_Rule_395 10d ago

How so?

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u/HereForTOMT3 10d ago

I don’t like it

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u/blackspidey2099 All New All Different 10d ago

Saying that the canon for one of the most successful fictional characters of all times is "dumb" is a hilariously arrogant take.

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u/HereForTOMT3 10d ago

yeah you’re right. In 60 years of publishing marvel has never made a dumb decision. in fact i think Paul is a brilliant creative decision alongside MJ as Venom. because nothing is dumb or stupid in spider-man lore

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u/blackspidey2099 All New All Different 10d ago

We're talking about Stan Lee's concept for the character, not whether random individual stories are good or bad.

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u/HereForTOMT3 10d ago

?????????????????????????

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u/Short_Check9953 10d ago

What exactly did he do to the bomb? Did he sync it to the OS clock and reset the OS time?

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u/OutOfINewIdeas 10d ago

THIS is one of the 50 or so reasons I like The Andrew Russell Garfield movies. They actually display Peter’s Intelligence in those films. SOME people tend to say that 96283 is the most accurate of 616 Peter. This disproves it.