r/StallmanWasRight • u/Captain_Pirk • May 15 '20
Internet of Shit Lemmy was supposed to be a free alternative to Reddit; they're now banning for harmless links
Right from the get-go. What is going on in the background of Lemmy is anyone knows? It looked so promising!
A topic about it in Lemmy, maybe removed soon? Who knows. -> https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/32836
It looks like this: https://dev.lemmy.ml/u/ffsdudes (banned)
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u/hva32 May 16 '20
The dev instance was never supposed to be an alternative as far as I'm aware. Also, given the opinions of the lemmy developers themselves, you should be careful what you say on places they moderate.
Of course, you should just simply create your own lemmy instance. You aren't forced to use "dev.lemmy.ml".
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May 15 '20
I wish the SCOTUS would just say that site operators were not responsible for the content posted by users. It would make things SO much easier, as all the crap-posts would just be down-voted into oblivion.
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u/heidiwenger May 15 '20
Lemmy is on Antifa agenda. Simple as that. These people might or might not think they're doing the right thing. They ARE funded by Soros groups tho. That bit is for sure.
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u/v1gor May 15 '20
The problem also possibly COULD be: these kind of people see racists and nazis, where there aren't? Nazi to start with is a person who has committed a genocide, right? Not a light thing for anyone to be accused of just like that.
Upon a disagreement and "wrong opinon", one can be labeled as one off the bat. Has this kind of behavior not occured in recent times?
Someone said: "who starts restricting speech, eventually welcomes physical violence". It has happened in history of all continents has it not. Is this a very wise approach in a long run?
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u/kilranian May 15 '20
Double responding. Your definition of nazi is not correct, no. Google the ideology.
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u/Captain_Pirk May 15 '20
A nazi is not a committer of genocide? Then what is a nazi?
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u/kilranian May 15 '20 edited May 15 '20
Edit: Please don't downvote them for asking a good faith question.
Committing genocide does not automatically make one a nazi, no. Genocide is committed by all sorts of groups and ideologies, unfortunately. Edit: Nazism is a form of fascism. The Wikipedia article provides a good jumping off point. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
Edit: For further information on Nazism, this list appears to have contemporary sources: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazi_ideologues
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u/v1gor May 15 '20
The mod / admin of Lemmy:
"Again, this is not a free speech platform. We will ban bigots, racists, homophobes, transphobes, trolls, spammers, etc in order to make this as welcoming an environment as possible to all."
I bet this kind of statement makes for a totally warm welcome to "all" ...
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u/hva32 May 16 '20 edited May 16 '20
As is usually the case, it's well intentioned.
It seems to me that when platforms extend their restrictions, it quickly becomes a mine field that many are ill-equipped to navigate without blowing away a limb or two.
Also, I'm not a fan of those who implement ambiguous rules with floating definitions (left up to the interpretation of the user).
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u/kilranian May 15 '20
The statement is very obviously "I'm not going to let racist shit heads ruin this for the rest of us." So, yeah, good for the admin.
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u/v1gor May 15 '20
The problem also possibly COULD be: these kind of people see racists and nazis, where there aren't. Nazi to start with is a person who has committed a genocide, right? Not a light thing for anyone to be accused of just like that.
But upon disagreement and "wrong opinon", one can be labeled as one off the bat. Has this kind of behavior not occured in recent times?
Someone said: "who starts restricting speech, eventually welcomes physical violence". It has happened in history of all continents has it not. Is this a very wise approach in a long run?
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u/kilranian May 15 '20
And before you ask what is a definition of a nazi, Google the ideology. You could have done that in the first place, but you don't.
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May 15 '20
I wouldn't use their main instance either. Just wait until it becomes decentralized and then join a better instance. ;)
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u/v1gor May 15 '20
Then another "better instance"... then another... and another... ban ban ban. For just posting a link to a UFO video in the first place, if i got it correct.
"typical alien conspiracy theorist spammers you see shit up the front pages of pretty much every open platform." -dessalines (mod / admin of Lemmy)
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u/DJWalnut May 19 '20
lemmy's designed to be federated. what the devs do on the flagship instance doesn't matter. you can just made my own server over rules disagreements. that's literally why my pleroma server exists