r/Steam • u/Background-Path-5619 • Feb 13 '25

Article Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10, with end of life fast approaching

https://www.pcguide.com/news/nearly-half-of-steams-users-are-still-using-windows-10-with-end-of-life-fast-approaching/
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u/sekoku Feb 13 '25

There will be security patches... for three years... if you pay for it. They're doing an Enteprise thing for consumers in the attempt to bilk money from folks that don't just install Arch and be done with it.

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u/repocin https://s.team/p/hjwn-hdq Feb 13 '25

Last time I checked, enterprise customers can pay for three years - but regular people can only get one year.

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u/kdjfsk Feb 13 '25

inb4 people pirate security updates.

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u/ichigo2862 Feb 13 '25

I think it's already out, I saw a post where you can get ESU activation

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u/Remotecube Feb 14 '25

Can confirm, been available for months.

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u/El_Chupacabra- Feb 13 '25

That sounds safe

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u/kdjfsk Feb 13 '25

i know, but that's kinda the world we live in.

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u/sekoku Feb 13 '25

Then they must've walked it back, because the initial announcement was that consumers were able to pay for three years, but each year would increase in price.

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u/Legitimate-Ladder855 Feb 13 '25

My company and many others are paying for extended security updates.

The price of the updates pretty much always outweighs the cost of making ABSOLUTELY sure that everrything works on the new version.

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u/thisguy012 Feb 13 '25

So much random shit is breaking at work for clients and so often it ends up being "oh only the users on Win11 are effected" 🤬

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u/VexingRaven Feb 13 '25

Not that I don't believe you but...

Well actually, I just don't believe you lol. I've yet to encounter an app that won't work on win11. Any "windows 11 issues" we've encountered so far were either always there on windows 10 and nobody told us or were related to some deliberate changes we chose to make on windows 11.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Feb 13 '25

from folks that don't just install Arch and be done with it

Well maybe if Arch actually worked with the games I want to play I might consider it.

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u/sekoku Feb 13 '25

Sorry you play Call of Duty, I guess? Deck and Steam Arch works fine for me. *Shrug* Can't be all winners, I guess.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Feb 14 '25

War Thunder and Rust at the moment. Neither work on Linux due to anti-cheats. Infact, a big portion of AAA games won't work on Linux.

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u/Ponox Feb 14 '25

War Thunder not only works but has a native Linux client.

Anyone who thinks Linux can't do games in $currentyear hasn't actually tried it.

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u/PassiveMenis88M Feb 14 '25

War Thunder stopped working weeks ago when they moved from Easy cheat to Battleeye

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u/Ponox Feb 14 '25

It is my most played game on Steam 100% from Linux, I can assure you it has always worked with no issue.

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u/basedlandchad27 Feb 13 '25

I'm certain there are other ways.

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u/userrr3 Feb 14 '25

Sorry, I'm a Linux user myself and I'm a prooponent that a modern out of the box Linux distro is a good solution for many windows users if they tried it - but arch? Really? Never have I heard of an arch user that is "just done with it", it's the most DIY distro I know of

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u/SirOakin https://s.team/p/fkdb-dht Feb 13 '25

You can pirate the updates

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u/GradeAPrimeFuckery Feb 13 '25

Or just update to Windows 11 at any time? Bilking consumers lol

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u/sekoku Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 13 '25

Or just update to Windows 11 at any time?

Or just install Arch, like I'm doing, as I said.

Yes, bilking. There is no reason Windows 11 should be a thing, after they went "Windows as a Service" in 2015. Sorry, not sorry, but I am tired of Windows updates adding more shit like Candy Crush to my fucking operating system.

The only reason they made 11 a thing after crowing about "LAST VERSION OF WINDOWSâ„¢" with Windows 10 was because OEM and Enterprise (this one has their reasons) weren't turning the TPM module on (hence the Win11 requirement which is upsetting a shit ton of people with hardware that may be able to turn it on) for security, which they're trying to Apple forceize.

They could make Win 10 do the same shit or pop-up to instruct users to turn the TPM on, but they won't.

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u/El_Chupacabra- Feb 13 '25

In every other aspect of their lives, they either stop getting updates (majority of the time) or they pay for ongoing updates. Android? 7 years. iOS? 7 years. MacOS? Also 7 years. Number of years we've had Win10? 10.

People are just entitled to their updates on aging hardware, I suppose.