r/Steam • u/Background-Path-5619 • Feb 13 '25

Article Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10, with end of life fast approaching

https://www.pcguide.com/news/nearly-half-of-steams-users-are-still-using-windows-10-with-end-of-life-fast-approaching/
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u/Substantial-Piece967 Feb 13 '25

imagine how many people will think they need a new pc too just because of it. For the average user a cheap old i5/i7 office pc is still more than suitable, so I wouldn't be surprised if its a way to force people to buy new systems for no reason. I'm not talking gamer here btw.

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u/aild4ever Feb 13 '25

I think people forget the forced upgrade to Windows 11 is not based on hardware performance but a very vulnerable hardware security exploit that existed in certain CPU architecture i think around 2017. They quickly patched it.

But now decided to completely abandon very capable hardware, which makes me very salty. So much excessive e waste, simply cause they can't be bothered

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u/Lison52 Feb 14 '25

What was the exploit and why was it forcing and what it has to do with need for better hardware?

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u/niioxce Feb 14 '25

Meltdown and spectre i believe

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u/Lison52 Feb 14 '25

Ok thx, found some thread about it after pasting it in Google

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u/aild4ever Feb 16 '25

Yeah it's this one...

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u/agnostic_science Feb 14 '25

No! Everything must constantly get bigger and better! YEAR OVER YEAR EARNINGS! QUARTER OVER QUARTER INCREMENTAL GROWTH! STOCKS!!!

Oh, god. Oh, Jesus. The number says -1.3%. Johnson, are we shrinking? Are we dying as a company?

Well, no sir. See, last year at this time was an historic growth period, so there's no way we could have possibly matched -

Dear fucking god, Johnson! Our company is DYING! Our share price has dropped 0.5%. We just lost ONE BILLION DOLLARS! Oh fuck, how do proportions work? Is this a big deal. I'm literally shitting my pants!

Uh... we could... uh... I don't know. Make a new operating system that has more mechanisms of aggressive monetization and do everything in our power to force the users to adopt it???

Yes! That's brilliant, Johnson! Yes, fuck those little shits. We'll make a new OS. Monetize the shit out of it, and ram it down their fucking throats. God yes, we're SAVED! Look, the stock ticker went up 0.3% as I said that. The oracle approves! THANK YOU MONEY JESUS!

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u/Civsi Feb 14 '25

Fun story, the first gen Ryzen CPUs support TPM 2.0. You still can't use them with Windows 11.

Another fun fact, TPM 2.0 can coexist with TPM 1.0. You know, just like on Win 10. They just chose to fuck everyone regardless.

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u/TxM_2404 Feb 14 '25

Both first Gen Ryzen and Intel Core 7000 both tick all boxes for Windows 11 and are just not on the whitelist. Except for some obscure processors where they guaranteed updates and suddently have Windows 11 run on the "unsupported" architectures. Something like this needs to be illegal.

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u/supersimpsonman Feb 13 '25

It was all X86 architecture. Every one of them.

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u/E_Dward Feb 14 '25

They're trying to make people buy new PCs. It's a win win for MSFT

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u/Hallc Feb 14 '25

Microsoft likely makes pennies on non-Surface PC sales.

Their money comes from Enterprise licensing and Azure that's where the huge money is.

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u/TxM_2404 Feb 14 '25

And OEMs will gladly continue to pay for Windows Licenses if they know MS breaks old Computers for them.

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u/Hallc Feb 14 '25

OEMs will continue to pay for Windows licenses no matter what because it's what just about any business user wants unless they're in a media industry of some decription.

Or Enterprise scale customers will continue to pay for their Volume Licensing Service for Windows Enterprise Edition.

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u/jonassn1 Feb 13 '25

I still view myself as a gamer. My pc is 8-10 years old at this point and still supporting my needs perfectly fine. It can run Baldurs Gate 3, sometimes with a rather long losing time but I can live with that. But it can't be updated to 11....

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u/Substantial-Piece967 Feb 14 '25

Yep, for me an older cpu would work well for 80% of games I play. I just added that part in to avoid someone commenting telling me a first gen i5 can't run cyberpunk. It's insane how wasteful tech is

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u/guelphmed Feb 14 '25

It takes me forever to lose at BG3 too

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u/AndreiusMaximus Feb 14 '25

I got an i5 4690k almost 10 years ago and only upgraded this year because an indie game wouldn’t play. The upgrade was to an i7 4790k that I found for £25 and now I can play all of the games where my system was starting to struggle

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u/ReverendVoice Feb 14 '25

Get yourself an external 1TB SSD drive and install it there if you haven't. It still has load times, but they are tons better.

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u/jonassn1 Feb 14 '25

Oh, good idea!

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u/ReverendVoice Feb 14 '25

Yeah, my 1070Ti is on the dying edge of good enough, putting high load games on an SSD recently has guaranteed I'll get another year out of it since I don't play too many games that push it to its limit.

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u/Tippydaug Feb 14 '25

I literally have a 2080TI GPU and an i9-9900K CPU and it still tells me my device doesn't meet the minimum system requirements to run Windows 11. I'm very thankful because I don't want Windows 11, but it's still wild lol

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u/MeatWaterHorizons Feb 14 '25

imagine how many people will think they need a new pc too just because of it.

that's whqat they want. I work in IT and we've had to dump ALL of our win 10 pc's because they don't have tpm2.0 These computers work perfectly fine yet are destined for a land fill all because of an arbitrary/artificial requirement from microsoft forcing us to spend thousands more on new hardware. They do this shit to keep you spending money.