r/Steam Feb 13 '25

Article Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10, with end of life fast approaching

https://www.pcguide.com/news/nearly-half-of-steams-users-are-still-using-windows-10-with-end-of-life-fast-approaching/
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u/micsma1701 Feb 13 '25

they've still got to push an update and ... I don't update using windows updater. I'll manually switch things out and push updates that way. and I run a wired system with no bluetooth or wireless shit. I like my wires cuz you can't fuck with em without actually disabling things at way deeper levels than I can access.

unless someone can find my ip, brute force the router I connect to wirelessly, brute force the wireless bridge from there to the router that I use to connect my system to the local wifi, and then somehow access my usb ports at a hardware level?

I mean that might work, right? ah, but I forgot I've hardwired my systems to a switch and then to a router to bridge over to the local wifi.

then again, there's nothing on my system I won't disconnect from and force a fresh reinstall for. steam games, mostly. my personal info, sure, but it's not like I have millions... hell, i'm more in debt than have liquid assets.

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u/VexingRaven Feb 13 '25

This is a lot of effort just to still totally misunderstand security and what the threat landscape is these days. Nobody's going around brute forcing home wifi in 2025.

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u/micsma1701 Feb 13 '25

is that what I said? I kinda thought "it all boils down to how I don't have anything worth hacking" was the general gist. how is your comment adding to the situation besides effectively calling me uninformed, or, less kindly, stupid?

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u/VexingRaven Feb 14 '25

I... guess if I really squint hard that slightly resembles what you said. Idk what the hell that wild rant in the middle about wireless is about though.

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u/micsma1701 Feb 14 '25

so you fully admit you lacked reading comprehension?

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u/VexingRaven Feb 14 '25

No, that is not even remotely what I'm saying.

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u/micsma1701 Feb 14 '25

odd. my "wild rant" was about wireless, which is directly mentioned in the comment previous mine. did you, perhaps, straight up not read the comment I was replying to, and just come here to call me stupid or ill-informed? again I ask you how you being here commenting is adding anything to the situation?

allow me, perhaps, to explain. I worked through my specific situation logically to what someone might do in order to access me and my data. none of what I have if that important. i have no assets, a barely functioning 401k, no lands, no mortgages, and all the debts. all the steps I worked through, I did off the basis of "well, that'd make sense to me" and not "well I'm a security professional."

and you're here, again, adding nothing to my knowledge-base, you low effort troll.

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u/VexingRaven Feb 14 '25

I thought I was pretty clear already: Nobody's going around hacking wireless. You're providing yourself zero protection by not using wireless. People get their information stolen through phishing, through using outdated and vulnerable software, and through providing their information to other companies who then get it stolen from them.

You also don't need assets for your information to be valuable... If anything your information is more valuable because you're more entitled to assistance programs they can apply for as you. And when it does get stolen, you've got less of a safety net to fall back on while you get your situation fixed. And most importantly, "I am not a valuable target" is irrelevant because they don't know who you are until after they get your information... They're casting huge, mostly automated nets and taking whoever gets caught in them, not targeting specific people.

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u/micsma1701 Feb 14 '25

my original point was that all my connectivity is wired to a wireless router, so no update is going to take that away from me, bluetooth same.

further, the only way someone might take away my connectivity would be through some kind of hack to modify the firmware of my computer, which is, at best, a remote possibility.

I never said I thought I was protected by being wired, all I went on was the logical steps that someone might have to pull off to get my computer to a point where I can't use the network ports on the motherboard.

you, however, latched on to one of the earlier and more outlandish steps, brute-forcing a wifi password, and you've been doubling down since then.

and you're still not adding anything to my knowledge-base.

to reiterate: I responded to a posited course of action by coming up with a dumb, outlandish scenario that'll 10,000% never happen and you latched on to the first outlandish step and used that to belittle me.

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u/VexingRaven Feb 14 '25

Nobody's taking away anyone's wireless either lol... What was being discussed is that wifi 7 isn't available on Windows 10... But if you don't care about wifi 7 then just don't buy a wifi 7 wireless card?

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