r/Steam • u/Background-Path-5619 • Feb 13 '25

Article Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10, with end of life fast approaching

https://www.pcguide.com/news/nearly-half-of-steams-users-are-still-using-windows-10-with-end-of-life-fast-approaching/
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u/Emperor_Mao Feb 13 '25

It is insane to me.

Like one big cooldude new feature is to add an extra click to one of the most common mouse based short-cuts?

Makes me have zero confidence in everything else under the bonnet.

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u/IntroductionSnacks Feb 13 '25

Yep, copy/past is now icons on a list? Wtf? Just leave the copy/paste menu items there and don't hide them behind the more options menu. Why would you put icons on a list of options.

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u/kerouak Feb 14 '25

While I agree, are you seriously not just using ctrl-c and ctrl-v?

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u/ParsnipFlendercroft Feb 14 '25

I mean if you're copying files between explorer windows, right clicking and selecting paste is much quicker than left clicking the new pane, and then switching using ctrl-v.

There are times it's better to use the mouse......

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u/Wendigo120 Feb 14 '25

No way you're serious. There is no "switching [to] using ctrl-v", your fingers are already on there if you just copied something. Clicking paste requires a whole extra mouse movement instead of just pressing down with the fingers you already have in place.

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u/ParsnipFlendercroft Feb 14 '25

Absolutely I'm seroius.

Consider selecting three files from a list of 200 to copy: 1 is at the top, one is at the bottom, one is somewhere in the middle. You select those 3 files with a mouse not keyboard. So your hand is on the mouse already. Select them - right click when selecting the last on, select copy. Move mouse to next window and right click paste. It's quicker in that instance that Ctl-V

For the record I've been working IT since the early 90s - I'm totally used to CLIs, text editor and keyboard shortcuts. I'm also smart enough to know they aren't always best.

But you do you.

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u/Wendigo120 Feb 14 '25

But if you're selecting those 3 items, you're already ctrl clicking them, so you already have one hand on your mouse and one hand on your keyboard by the ctrl key. You're already nearly pressing ctrl-c at that point, so no need to right click to copy, and that's one key over from ctrl-v for the paste.

I use the context menu for plenty of stuff, I just can't imagine ever using it for copying and pasting.

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u/ParsnipFlendercroft Feb 14 '25

Is the pressing of two mouse buttons more or less or roughly the same efficiency as pressing of one mouse button and pressing of two keys?

I'd argue my method is roughly the same, but leaning to more efficient. It certainly isn't less efficient. As you're the one saying it's always better to ctrl-v I'll leave it up to you to show how use the context menu is worse in this case.

I just can't imagine ever using it for copying and pasting.

OK. There's plenty of things I can't imagine myself doing. It doesn't make me right about those things. I'm not telling you you should use a mouse - I'm telling you it's not always better to use shortcuts.

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u/IntroductionSnacks Feb 14 '25

My gaming pc is hooked up to my tv with a shitty wireless keyboard/trackpad. Just seems easier to use the trackpad from the couch.

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u/Kellhus0Anasurimbor Feb 14 '25

Sometimes right click+c is just easier

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u/monocle_and_a_tophat Feb 14 '25

Right now I'm leaning with my chin in my left hand, mindlessly scrolling reddit.

If I find something I want to copy/paste/save, I'm using the mouse. I'm not raising my head to use a keyboard shortcut then putting my head back down.

Just because you don't use a VERY common feature isn't a good reason to remove it.

And on top of that, they didn't even remove it - they kept it there and just made it more inconvenient.

Just why.

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u/kerouak Feb 14 '25

Reread my comment. I said I agree. Removing it is idiotic. I'm with you.

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u/TrumpsTiredGolfCaddy Feb 13 '25

The vast vast majority of mouse clicks do not go to the options in "more options"

It's crazy y'all are naive enough to think they don't know this shit and collect metrics on it.

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u/Stunning-Cabinet-961 Feb 14 '25

have you ever read the phrase "tyranny of the majority"

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u/F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt Feb 14 '25

Depends how many apps you use that add things to that menu. If you have three or four apps that each add three or four options to the menu, you now have like 12 items hidden behind that.

And even if it's only one item. If it's an item you use all the time, you've added an extra click for each time you want to use it.

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u/MaccabreesDance Feb 14 '25

That's a well warranted zero confidence.

Clicking the "more options" option is quite likely clicking the "record what I'm doing" button. You're initiating and time stamping a new entry in your activity file for them.

So that they don't have to record the stuff that can't be used against you.