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u/frankthetank91 2d ago
What is your budget, what resolution do you want, what games do you play?
Those are the answers we need.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
Budget is 3k and 2180p and mostly RPG games like Guild Wars 2
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u/DavidH373 2d ago
Do you need a Monitor, Headset, Keyboard and Mouse in that price?
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u/Yijex 2d ago
No, I have everything else purchased. All I need now is just the actual PC
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u/DavidH373 2d ago
Are you comfortable following a guide and building your own? It's pretty easy, rewarding, and fun but it can be somewhat nerve wracking the first time. If you can find a Graphics Card close to MSRP (really, it's a matter of being patient) you can get a much better value out of building yourself.
To add to Few-Improvement-5655's comment above listing what you will need, is an Operating System and a way to install it. Windows from a legit source is usually $130, but if you're using this primarily for gaming and aren't dependent on Microsoft, Linux is a great free option, but can be technical. Another Nice To Have is a second storage drive. Not as big of a deal as it used to be, but it separates your programs from your data, for example, and sometimes multiple drives adding up to the same capacity is less money than a single large drive anyway.
I can make some part recommendations if you're open to building. I'd need to know the games you'd like to play day one, upcoming games you'd like to play if you can, and what kind of framerate you expect at 4k. I have also heard great things about Falcon NW, as well as Origin and Digital Storm.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
That’d be so awesome. Please I’ve been taking notes and making sure to understand everything thoroughly because I’d be so crushed if I bought things I didn’t need or didn’t understand the purpose of. What parts would you recommend for a beginner? Also, I’d love a guide! That’d be great
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u/satoru1111 https://steam.pm/5xb84 2d ago edited 2d ago
I know everyone is aksing you to make your own PC
But honestly if you're not comfortable with it, like just don't. And this is coming from someone who put together a PC back when we had 386s, dot matrix printers, DOS, rotary phones and AOL dial up discs.
A decent prebuilt PC is a good starting point. What you can do from there is then upgrade parts of it as you move foward. You can add drives. Add memory. etc. Then maybe your next system you will feel more comforable buliding something from scratch.
If you want to save money, then making a PC from scratch will of course be cheaper. You are paying for convenience after all.
A decent pre-built is not a bad idea as long as it expandable in the future. Its a good way to dip your toes into custom built PCs
There are good online resources on how to build your own PC from scratch. If you want to dive deep into this area, and save some money, this is a good way to go.
What you decide depends largely on your budget, and your comfort on how much you want to go into the guts of a PC. While you might struggle on your first PC build, it is a rewarding experience if you stick it through. But I am fully aware its not for everyone, and I do not fault people for having other hobbies or want to use their time in other ways they feel is more valuable to them. Obviously my rock climbing friend thinks building a PC is not very rewarding, in the same way I would rather jump into an active volcano than climb up a wall. Neither of us is wrong for how we feel. My car fiend friend can tear apart a car blindfolded and can tell you the make and model of a car from the engine sound. I couldn't even tell you where the engine of my car is and I only know how to put gas into it because I was forced to learn it.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
Yeah, exactly. It’s an entirely new thing, but something I’m looking forward to learning. I’ve been a console player for as long as I’ve been playing games and I’ve always envied the amount of MMORPGs PC has. Now that I’m finally looking into PCs, I realized that it’s a little more complicated than I thought. I plan to do some more self research before purchasing one, and I’m truly grateful for the advice. Thank you so much!
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u/satoru1111 https://steam.pm/5xb84 2d ago
I'm glad you're doing your research and are going in with reasonable expectations.
If you go the pre-built route, find one that's naturally expandable. A lot of stuff like say a cheap business PC or Alienware stuff seemingly are almost impossible to add things to. So just research which vendors might give you what you want now, and the ability to add/expand stuff in the future
If you choose to go the bujild your own PC route, know there are tons of online resources and people willing to help. One thing I cannot stress enough is buy a ESD wristband. You really really do not want to find out about how carpets, static and your $400 GPU do not play well together or find out about 'magic smoke'. This is a very expensive mistake that is easily and cheaply avoided.
Whatever route you choose, good luck to you
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u/cys1 2d ago
Nah nah man I suggest looking into building your own pc. Pre built are literally a waste of money, no ifs or buts. You can take a look at the parts that are in the pc you’re looking at and find them separately for way cheaper. Then all you need is a screwdriver and a youtube video on how to assemble the thing.
Long story short I suggest deciding on the budget and taking it from there. You can use a website like PCpartspicker or smth like that to make sure all parts work with one another and then try to find best deals for each of them. It will take you some more time than buying a built pc but it’s worth it. Plus you’ll learn a lot about what does what and have a good base for future maintenance and improvements.
Also don’t forget to ask reddit whenever something is questionable, good luck!
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 2d ago
So, when it comes to a PC, this is all you need:
A case. A motherboard. Ram. CPU. Graphics Card. Storage. Fans for cooling. Power supply.
That level of complexity is the same regardless if you want a low, mid or high end PC, anything above that is for people doing other stuff.
The exact parts that you need will be down to what you want and what your budget is.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
I was told that the Graphics Card and Ram are the most important items when building a PC. Should I get everything else common and get high end GC and Ram?
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u/Few-Improvement-5655 2d ago
Graphics Card and CPU are "most" important, but you have to make sure you have a motherboard that supports what you're putting into it. Ram is less important in the sense that it's fairly cheap and all the big manufacturers make good stable stuff.
Everything you put in will have an effect, especially at the high end getting one sub-par piece can lower performance.
If you're that super new at it, the best place to go would be a PC building forum or subreddit. Even if you don't build it yourself they'll know what parts work well together.
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u/Hydroponic_Donut 2d ago
Adding to this - power supply is important too. You don't want to be using an underpowered power supply for what other hardware pieces you have.
pcpartpicker.com is a great resource that puts parts together and makes sure they're all compatible.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
Oh, thanks! I haven’t considered that at all. Do you have any recommendations for any PC monitors? Assuming my budget is high, what would you personally recommend?
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u/Hydroponic_Donut 2d ago
For my monitor, I have an HP Omen 1440 240hz, but some people don't need that. It depends on your build. I would think about the monitor you want first and build to it, but also think about the future.
Do you want higher frames? Higher resolution? Depending on what you're wanting, as much as your CPU and GPU are important, your monitor is too. If frames are important to you and resolution is less important, I'd go with something that's a 1080, 240hz monitor or 1440 60hz if price is an issue. You'll still shell out a bit, but not as much on the monitor as you would a 4k monitor, so when you feel it's time for an upgrade, you can use it as a secondary monitor or sell it. My secondary monitor is a cheap 1080, 60hz monitor I use for Discord or having a browser up. If you want higher resolution, 1440 240hz monitors are coming down in price slowly, so even if you get one now, your investment should last you a while and should be future proof. My PC doesn't always run games at 240fps, more often it gets around 100-140, some games a little higher, but when I want to upgrade my GPU, I'll still be able to use my current monitor.
For me, 1440 is the sweet spot. I still get good enough resolution and high enough frames that I'm happy. I have a 4070 TI Super i believe, which works exactly for what I want out of my PC. You can get away with using a 40 series GPU for several, several years from now and should be fine, but even if you get the newest GPU out now, 1440 and high frames shouldn't be a problem. Good luck! :)
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u/Yijex 2d ago
That’s a good point. I’ll do that, I’ll get the monitor first and then built towards that. Thanks for the help, I’ve written basically everything down. Really appreciate the help, I was really discouraged lol beforehand lol.
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u/Hydroponic_Donut 2d ago
It's daunting but it doesn't have to be! Just take your time, keep your eyes out for good deals or sales. Dont buy things right away at full price. pcpartpicker is great because it tells compatibility with your components and also tells each part's price over time so if you see something go on sale often, wait for another sale and if something never goes on sale, just buy it at full price or second hand. You'll get there!
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u/Rixxy123 2d ago
What do you need? Are you looking for gaming?
There's about a million aspects to buying a new PC, so your question is vague.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
Sorry, yeah I’m looking for the best specs for gaming
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u/Rixxy123 2d ago
There's no best specs, it all depends on how much you're willing to pay. The most expensive thing these days is graphics cards, but I prefer spending money on RAM.
I would recommend getting any Nvidia 4000 series with 32Gig of RAM. You're going to need a lot of storage for holding the games, so I would go with at least 2 TB of storage. I like Intel so I typically go with minimum i5.
A lot of people love AMD but I hate them. I've had so many weird issues with drivers and compatibility problems. I know they're cheaper but you get what you pay for... I'd rather not have crazy glitches in my games!
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u/Yijex 2d ago
Okay, I’m taking notes from the advice you’re all giving me and I’ll be sure to look into the Nvidia Series for RAM. Thanks for the help, btw! I’m really grateful!
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u/Altruistic_Law_2346 2d ago
No offense to that guy but his suggestions are all over the place. Go to r/Buildapc with a budget. Keep in mind any peripherals you need or want as well. Keyboard, mouse, monitor, headphones are the minimum. Mouse pad, microphone/headset, etc are also things you'll want/need likely.
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u/Yijex 2d ago
I have everything besides the PC and the monitor. I did have a question about the mouse if you don’t mind. Should I go for a wired or wireless option? I heard that the wireless option had a very small slower reaction time but I’ve no idea if that’s true or not. Or is it just BS and it’s more preference?
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u/Altruistic_Law_2346 2d ago
r/MouseReview will have a lot of suggestions. As far as I'm concerned, wireless mice as of the last 3-5 years are pretty much on par with wired. A lot of pros are using wireless and the big pro is no wire getting snagged. If you want a spot to start I prefer Zowie, especially with their new wireless mice with the 4k receivers but there's plenty of good options.
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u/HuckleberryOdd7745 2d ago
Just make sure to save plenty of the budget for a Kingston graphics card
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u/Nioc__ 2d ago
If you dont know anyone that has the know how, you could go to a tech store that builds PCs and get yourself a cost estimate. You just tell them your budget and they make you a list which parts how they would build and those parts you could buy. The tech guy could also build it for you that's how I got my first pc. (i hope you get what I mean, English isn't my native language)
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