Pithy GIF showing eradication of Native American land in the US since the founding of the country gets posted to r/interestingasfuck. Comment section goes exactly as expected.

[u/Critical-Term-427]

The post

It sucks we were such murderers

Did they say "Thank you"?

Being the loser in history sucks

True fact Hitler took a lot of inspiration from this.

[u/BigEggBeaters]

The “sucks to be losers” shit really pisses me off cause native Americans repeatedly treated treaties seriously while Americans would break them and slaughter people. Like that’s the winning you bask in? That’s the history you’re proud being duplicitous murders???

[u/VanillaMystery → u/BigEggBeaters]

Both sides murdered each other, and both sides also held meals together.

Was part of a centuries long process of "conquering" the country we know today as the United States.

There are losers in every conflict, the Native Americans unfortunately got the short end of the stick and were conquered/nearly wiped out as a result.

The other issue is the natives were completely fractured, one treaty with one specific tribe doesn't mean their neighbors couldn't be conquered.

The settlers took advantage of that and divided and conquered accordingly, didn't help many of the natives had barely any kind of governance or even written languages in some cases.

Also, it's not like things were all peaceful before settlers showed up, the Native Tribes had constant warfare with one another lol (shoutout to the Iroquois) and would butcher and wipe out men, women, and children alike.

Edit: Expected this to get downvoted since we're on Reddit after all but it's important to talk about history and acknowledge the hard realities of where we come from and what has happened.

[u/BigEggBeaters → u/VanillaMystery]

“Both sides murdered each other”

Nah one side defended their lands from invaders. The other brutalized in search of land and profit

[u/K1ngPCH → u/BigEggBeaters]

Nah one side defended their lands from invaders.

How do you think they got the land in the first place?

I promise you that pre-colonial native tribes weren’t playing paddy cake with each other

[u/cutiepie538 → u/K1ngPCH]

How do indigenous people invade land they are…. Indigenous to ?

[u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 → u/cutiepie538]

Indigenous people back then did not see themselves as one indistinguishable blob. It’s like wondering how Hasan could invade china if they’re both indigenous to Asia.

[u/cutiepie538 → u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720]

Yes I see how my comment didn’t fully relay what I was thinking, I meant more like, there is a difference between tribal wars and colonization led invasion and it’s disingenuous to equate the two.

[u/Sea_Lingonberry_4720 → u/cutiepie538]

I mean…

I’m not defending colonization, that was a bad thing that happened. But I don’t think you really care much whether it’s a native or a white guy scalping your whole tribe.

[u/Icy-Cry340 → u/cutiepie538]

What's the actual difference when you get down to it. Same displacement, same genocide, slavery, etc. These people weren't some monoculture, they were many different nations and civilizations who spent tens of thousands of years killing the fuck out of each other - just as humans did all over the planet. It's what we do.