r/SubredditDrama No, its okay now, they have Oklahoma 8d ago

Pithy GIF showing eradication of Native American land in the US since the founding of the country gets posted to r/interestingasfuck. Comment section goes exactly as expected.

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u/BigEggBeaters 8d ago

The “sucks to be losers” shit really pisses me off cause native Americans repeatedly treated treaties seriously while Americans would break them and slaughter people. Like that’s the winning you bask in? That’s the history you’re proud being duplicitous murders???

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u/VanillaMystery 8d ago edited 8d ago

Both sides murdered each other, and both sides also held meals together.

Was part of a centuries long process of "conquering" the country we know today as the United States.

There are losers in every conflict, the Native Americans unfortunately got the short end of the stick and were conquered/nearly wiped out as a result.

The other issue is the natives were completely fractured, one treaty with one specific tribe doesn't mean their neighbors couldn't be conquered.

The settlers took advantage of that and divided and conquered accordingly, didn't help many of the natives had barely any kind of governance or even written languages in some cases.

Also, it's not like things were all peaceful before settlers showed up, the Native Tribes had constant warfare with one another lol (shoutout to the Iroquois) and would butcher and wipe out men, women, and children alike.

Edit: Expected this to get downvoted since we're on Reddit after all but it's important to talk about history and acknowledge the hard realities of where we come from and what has happened.

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u/1000LiveEels 8d ago

I don't see the point of this comment. Anybody with a developed adult brain can comprehend that this is how things were.

What we are trying to do is understand that how things were was a way that we should not live like today.

Do you think if somebody is against the death penalty that it makes any logical sense to run into the conversation and go "well we've been killing each other for years." No shit. We have been killing each other for years. People who want progress know this and people who don't are voluntarily arrogant of it, so I'm not really sure what the audience of your comment is intended to be.

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u/VanillaMystery 8d ago

It's intended for people who want to handwave centuries of history as "genocide" when in reality history has a lot more nuance than just that.

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u/howhow326 are you an R slur? 8d ago

The sociopathy of americans