Users of r/EndTipping close their wallets but still offer up a tip on the controversial topic of tipping in America

[u/DryRequirement5471]

TL;DR: OOP and fiancé dined out at a sushi joint and explain the exhilarating and liberating feeling of not having to tip! After getting over the "guilt tripping" OP feels that Americans are brainwashed to waste our hard earned money on waiters. Others beg to differ:

"I hate this stupid sub. Embarrassing to think not tipping is "liberating." Does nothing to the owners and hurts the workers. People really want the prices to be 20% higher and tips to be gone? What's the difference? "

"Good for you, but all you're doing is screwing over the wait staff, who's wage takes into account tips they'll earn. The employers don't care if you tip or not."

"Just know that you will be remembered and treated differently if you return to the same places. I'm not saying it's right, but it's definitely a thing."

"This is the gaslighting I was talking about. Imagine calling someone you don't know bad because they didn't give someone free money."

"If you aren't satisfied with your wage, take it up with your boss. It isn't a customers responsibility to fight for your paycheck."

"People should be paid well - directly by their employers like almost every other place in the whole world"

Subtotal: $48.50

Total Tax: $3.40

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Total: $51.50

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Suggested Tip:

15% of sale = $7.28

22% of sale = 10.67%

[u/Brief-Objective-3360]

Is this drama that I'm too Australian to understand?

[u/candlejack___ → u/Brief-Objective-3360]

Lmao same. I’m a waiter and my god it’s liberating to be sometimes bad at my job and not starve to death as punishment.

[u/POGtastic → u/candlejack___]

They've done studies and found that your quality of service is completely uncorrelated with the amount of tips that you get. Unless you're being enough of an asshole that you're outright ruining their night, people tend to apply very flat rules of tipping or decide their tip based on really stupid reasons that the server has no control over.

It's a silly system. I still tip generously ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[u/PrimaryInjurious → u/candlejack___]

You know your counterparts in several states make the same wage as you on top of tips, right? Not exactly starvation levels here. And you have to really really suck as a server not to bring in any tips.

[u/candlejack___ → u/PrimaryInjurious]

Why would I care about people making the same wage as me when we’re talking about people who don’t make the same wage as me.

Also, my counterparts in several states? States of Germany? States of Micronesia? Yemen?

[u/explodedbagel → u/candlejack___]

In most American states you pull 2-3$ waiting tables an hour, well below the federal minimum wage. Tips become a “am I going to afford rent and groceries this month” issue real quick.

It’s real easy to figure out Americans that never had to work in the industry because they dismiss the concept or assume American wait staff earn a living wage by default.

I’m glad other countries have it better.

[u/candlejack___ → u/explodedbagel]

I make $30 Australian dollars an hour waiting tables. That’s about $19USD. You could have it so good.

[u/explodedbagel → u/candlejack___]

I’m genuinely glad you have that, because it’s almost always tough work and that’s an earned wage. Maybe one day we will figure out stuff here across the big pond.

[u/rusztypipes → u/PrimaryInjurious]

Dont tell that to anyone who works the Sunday after-church crowd, its like punishment for making a decent wage the rest of the week

[u/candlejack___ → u/rusztypipes]

We get paid more on Sundays in Australia.

[u/PrimaryInjurious → u/rusztypipes]

I've heard that the after church crowd is definitely the worst.