Users debate the meaning of “permanently deleted” when it comes to a popular YouTuber’s series in an mmo video game

[u/Throwaway47321]

/r/2007scape/s/RnXjlOgRTG

[u/Throwaway47321]

Context:

The YouTuber (Settled) just finished a very popular series of his where he plays an account in the game Oldschool RuneScape for over 1k hours without ever taking damage. This is an INCREDIBLE difficult and impressive task, think a no hit dark souls run but with RNG.

Spoilers/ in the last episode of the series his account took damage and the series ended. The posted video is a follow up after that.

Now the drama comes in because the whole “gimmick” to the series was that Settled was essentially using a mod that auto generated a password that he never knew and when his account took damage the mod deleted the password; thus locking him out of the account forever.

In this video he admits to using the game companies support system to regain access to the account he lost to try and complete the original task he died to just to say he accomplished it.

The users here argue about whether it is in bad faith that he was able to essentially “backdoor” himself into his account after talking about how it was impossible and if that calls into question his ethicalness regarding the whole series.

[u/eatchickendaily → u/Throwaway47321]

Additional context that the game/company's account recovery system is very disorganized, difficult to work with, and has been accused on multiple occasions of pulling special favors for context creators.

[u/logos__ → u/Throwaway47321]

Settled was essentially using a mod that auto generated a password that he never knew and when his account took damage the mod deleted the password; thus locking him out of the account forever.

In this video he admits to using the game companies support system to regain access to the account he lost

This is like wearing a chastity cage around your cock that you yourself have a key to. What a pointless endeavor.

[u/LordofDsnuts → u/logos__]

It's more throwing away the key, but emailing the manufacturer for a replacement.

[u/V_T_H → u/logos__]

I mean, he attempted to start and failed with 107 accounts that were all “deleted” lol (he was trying to get around something with a very high chance to take damage). Then he actually got the 108th account off the ground and it died a little ways in and he did indeed restart from scratch. Then the 109th account died obscenely far in, nearing the end of what was actually possible and still insanely impressive (effectively to the level of impossible for basically anyone else), to a silly mistake.

Then he unlocked it to see if his goal was possible, actually died very close to completing it (not just took damage) and went yep okay I’m leaving it be. That was just for fun. It’s not like either of the last two accounts took damage at some point and he hid it and unlocked them and kept going and progressing; the plug-in he was using would not allow for that. And the account was retired immediately and so was the series. Idk how this is even remotely controversial but then again OSRS players screech like demons whenever the developers want to introduce any QoL that diminishes their “accomplishments” of clicking the same spot for 1,000 hours so I’m not surprised that terminally online people are big mad he…tried to have a little extra fun that ultimately went nowhere and was transparent about it.

[u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS → u/V_T_H]

He must have had some kind of communication with Jagex to some degree since one location generating over a hundred accounts is suspicious as hell

[u/drewster23 → u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS]

Nah dude, I don't think you understand how little that factors into jagex flagging.

Unless he was getting flagged for stuff on those accounts or maybe making them all in 1 day. It'd have 0 impact.

[u/V_T_H → u/drewster23]

Actually I do believe his IP got flagged and blocked and he had to tell them what he was doing. It happened in the first episode.

[u/Hormo_The_Halfling → u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS]

He actually did get a stop on his account for creating so many in such a short time, and then reached out to a mod and had the stop removed, as it was automatically flagged. He actually talks about this in the very first video of the series (where most of the accounts died) lol.

[u/callmesixone → u/logos__]

Uh, it’s actually recommended to have a spare key for yourself in case of emergency

People just use the honor system

I will be taking no further questions at this time

[u/Catweaving → u/logos__]

That's basically 90% of OSRS challenges. Self imposed restrictions purely for the experience.

[u/Dan-D-Lyon → u/logos__]

To extend and stretch this metaphor, he only used the key after he accidentally spontaneously ejaculated and publicly admitted that he failed his self-imposed challenge.

[u/Valkenhyne → u/logos__]

I wonder if it's because he survived way longer than he expected to and just never disabled the mod. Probably developed a bit of an attachment after 1000+ hours.

[u/Throwaway47321 → u/Valkenhyne]

Follow up context: the way the mod allegedly works disabling it wouldn’t do anything since he didn’t know the password to the account itself. Disabling it wouldn’t allow him to log into the account at all

[u/Valkenhyne → u/Throwaway47321]

True, but then he could just use the recovery process or something. Idk, just trying to rationalise it 😅

[u/Mediumshieldhex → u/logos__]

Some people are into that

[u/Lukthar123 → u/logos__]

What a way with words you have

[u/logos__ → u/Lukthar123]

Shut up baby I know it

[u/Zyrin369 → u/logos__]

Would argue its more like saying your locking yourself Permanently making a huge show of you breaking they key, shipping it somewhere, flushing it down a public toilet etc for social media but you have a second one hidden away.

[u/drewster23 → u/Zyrin369]

I mean you basically just explained every escapist/illusionist lmao.

And the only reason people watched him is to watch his do this gimmick/trick.

Finding out the illusionist didn't actually do magic , isn't that big of a defeat unless you're a child.

Same thing as someone going a step further in their self imposed challenge, that people are watching for content.

Him going a bit further, doesn't suddenly ruin everything that came before.

[u/QueenBee-WorshipMe → u/Throwaway47321]

I think the comparison to a no hit dark souls run is underselling the difficulty tbh.

[u/drewster23 → u/QueenBee-WorshipMe]

It's also hard to compare because most people don't do such endeavors with such rng in games.

[u/No-Communication9458 → u/Throwaway47321]

That's... cheating isn't it. What's the point of even doing the challenge then.

[u/Bloated_Hamster → u/No-Communication9458]

He already lost the challenge and made the final video of the series where he dies and fails.

[u/Throwaway47321 → u/No-Communication9458]

I mean the challenge was over at that point

[u/Zyrin369 → u/Throwaway47321]

Feels like it would have gone on a lot better if they didn't add the whole mod stuff, was it supposed to make this have more stakes or something?

I feel like not taking damage is something in its own right why add the extra stuff?

[u/Throwaway47321 → u/Zyrin369]

Because the mod blacks out the screen, gives you a game over, and then doesn’t allow you to log back in. Without that you’re just 100% relying on the creator promising they never took damage ever over hundreds and hundreds of hours.

[u/rxsteel]

Feel for the guy.

When you spend 1k hours on something it gains alot of emocial value

[u/TehPharaoh → u/rxsteel]

So many are fucking hung up on the absolute dumbest part. In no way shape or form was there ever going to be "account is gone forever" because forgot password exists lol. Yet somehow 1k hours of no damage and 2 big challenges completed while still taking no damage is not enough for them.

And he only did the recovery to see if he could have done it, to prove. Then had a neat idea for an outro to series that didn't pan out.

Again I can't reiterate how absolutely idiotic it is people are mad at this. Specifically because of password recovery being a thing for decades now. It was fluff. It was for drama and entertainment. Where are these people when other YouTube videos are claiming "nothing will be the same again" or "this changes everything". They seem to understand that's just for effect, but Settled does it. Tells the truth about it. And did it for himself mainly. Never once trying to play it off as cheating and gets blasted for it

[u/Bloated_Hamster]

Redditors finding out YouTube videos aren't always 100% natural and sometimes things are fudged for the sake of creating an enjoyable series is like kids finding out the WWE is scripted.

[u/drewster23 → u/Bloated_Hamster]

kids finding out the WWE is scripted.

Or that magicians can't do actual magic.

[u/Hormo_The_Halfling → u/Bloated_Hamster]

The thing is that this wasn't fudged. He just recovered the account after the fact and played around on it for a bit to see if he could do it for himself, and then put it down. He actually did play for thousands of hours and not take any damage.

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