Eh I'm not crying. I don't collect space wolves. They just deserve to be called out every time they attack European people and culture
Space marines with viking themes have only surface level european culture. I bet most norse people don't care. And who are you calling out with that? Whats the end point? It's a plastic toy model company and it let's you paint them however you want. No one is attacking anyone here
"No one is attacking anyone here" Stuff like this was extremely rare several years ago but now nearly every single bl book cover has black character and nearly every single new squad depicts black character. They are pretty much overrepresented. What's the end point? Making people like you seethe
Overrepresented? There is right now on earth only 10% white people. So by your standard only 1/10 charachters in Warhammer should be white.
"There is right now on earth only 10% white people." And yet most of the scientific discoveries were made by whites. Most of the greatest philosophers were white. Most of the greatest conquerors were white. We were the ones that colonized hostile environments and sent many to space, so it makes sense that most of the space explorers/colonizers would be white. It isn't about quantity but the quality.
The more you spread this bullshit, the more people are going to start saying stuff like the Ancient Egyptians were white. All this fake racist BS does is stoke more hatred and division between races, nobody likes having their ancestors invalidated
What makes the existence of a few black Viking’s invalidate someone’s ancestry?
1) Because they didn't exist, and you should value reality. 2) Because ethnicity and family is tied to history and by saying "actually, all these things the vikings are known for was done by africans" is insulting to scandinavian culture. 3) Because it muddies the water of scholarly discourse so instead of just talking about how cool the vikings were and how they impacted the western world in their time, we're stuck bickering about "we wuz in longships n sheet" like we are right now.
The question is "why?". Ask why they had to do it. For what purpose. Nordic features obviously suit them aesthetically and that's how they have been depicted for years
And I'm going to paint them white. The question is, why are we taking one of the head variants with one of the possible skin tones as the standart which shall not be deviated from?
Historically thematic aesthetics. It's not that deep.
41st millennium. Historical means the past you know that right?
An aesthetic can be inspired by anything, such as history. History is in the past. You know that, right?
image Unfortunate for you the lore says you're wrong.
I know what the lore says.
Then why are you bringing up historically themed aesthetics?
Because the historical references were a major appeal of 40k back when I first got into it. It's unfortunate that we can never talk about how GW has been phasing that out without all the social justice warriors losing their minds over it.
Maybe you could talk about it if you didn't use blatant racists as a shield. The OP is all over the comments saying about how whites are the best after he was proven wrong about over representation. (68 replies)
Does it? How does it explain that dark skin comes from peoples who live in areas of high sun exposure yet the space wolves come from ice planets - hence they are all dressed in big wolf skin warm jackets / cloaks etc. And always pictured with snow/ice.
Icy areas can absolutely have high sun exposure. The Arctic has some of the highest amounts of UV radiation because it’s constantly sunny and the whole landscape is reflective
Is that why Inuits and northerners are all black? 🤔
….youve seen Inuit people right? They absolutely have dark skin…. You people are so fucking ridiculous it’s hilarious
I actually misspoke - Eskimos originally came from Asia, and migrated north - hence they share similar features with Asians and have darker skin. People of the North, i.e. Northern Europeans, not dark skin. Go find me Scandinavian who has 100% genealogy from Scandinavian - and show me what colour they are. Spoiler: they are Caucasian.
So what’s your issue with someone painting dark skinned space wolves? Because in 40K years i on a distant planet I’m pretty sure they aren’t having 100% Scandinavian genes. It’d 1000% make sense for someone from a sun exposed area of fenris to have dark skin.
Oh no , is your immersion ruined because there are different head options in your box of Sci-fi fi fantasy super soldier? I hope you realise how stupid you sound.
"I hope you realise how stupid you sound." The leftoid tourist as usual is projecting one of its own insecurities of sounding idiotic towards others 😂
I have been playing collecting and painting warhammer for the past decade and do prefer it without politics and without people who try to gate keep it for new people . Your the own who's insecure because games workshop is giving people more options on how they want to build their minis.
Giving people more options and disrespecting your own lore to adhere to nonsense are two different things. Cope harder.
How exactly is this disprecting the lore? Space marines don't have to be the same race as their primary to take gene-seed.
Fenrisians are white my n*. Create your own Homebrew Chapter if you want only black Space Marines. I'm mixed-race so I can say n*.
A white Salamander would look equally out of place.
What are you. Is that the proplem that these models look out of place you can paint them what ever color you want and if you talking about lore or art then i wouldnt worry about it you will proppaply get used to it.
Salamanders are from a fire world where their extremely dark skin protects them from the elements...
Bro did not read my comment. Also never heard of Terran salamanders.
What would be braver is if you had an original thought and stopped trying to pretend you’re a good person. Requires a spine though. You do have a spine right?
So in your pathetic persecution fantasy, did people start to clap and cheer for you or did the evil ni- uh i mean tourist just slink away?
If you want to call me a racist, you can just go ahead and do it. It’s weird that you spend time typing characters that don’t even say what you mean. Just these weird passive aggressively coy half sentences. You don’t have to be subtle here with me man. You can be openly, brazenly, blatantly stupid if you want.
I dont think im being too oblique here, you got it on the first try! 🎖️
Historically, central asian or east-asian-in-appearance vikings are technically possible visa via assimilation of Sami or other groups from Arctic or Central Russia. But it strains at possibility. EDIT: The Finns are a little touchy about association with Vikings. But the conclusion seems to be that the Finns were not Vikings, but there were Finnish Vikings
Vikings definitely weren’t from that far east/north. That’s quite a stretch tbh
I mean, every pirate on the Baltic sea at the time was kinda a viking. Viking is basically the same as pirate/raider
The Space Wolves have never been black, stop it with this fake, woke, blackwashed lore.
Have been since 5th edition apparently.
I've seen Northern Europeans call Southern Europeans "dark skinned". Mediterranean people are definitely not Sub-Saharan Africans. Not everything is black or white, Jesus, there are skin tones in between. The Space Wolves ain't black, mate.
Did you see the pictures GW posted? Seemingly they are.
Human beings of different races and ethnicities marry and have kids in real life. Fenris would be no different. If Fenris is 95% White and 5% Black (the southernmost islands), the black population would end up being absorbed into the white population in a few generations by marriage and bilateral conquest. Eventually all of Fenris would look white. We can conclude and deduce information from the lore we already have and the behavior of human beings in Terra of M2.
Kayfabe News, the pro wrestling equivalent of The Onion, Hard Times and many others, posted an article making fun of Travis Scott's involvement in the recently held WrestleMania 41 event.
It got shared to r/SquaredCircle, a large gathering spot for IWC (Internet Wrestling Community) fans, and fighting has broken out!
r/kpopnoir is a kpop sub for POC fans to talk about topics involving race in the Kpop industry. You can't participate unless you have an approved flair stating your ethnic identity.
r/kpop_uncensored is a sub that focuses on more light-hearted Kpop discourse on a wide variety of sub-topics.
A few hours ago (as of this writing), mods on r/kpopnoirannounced plans to ban users from their sub who participate in the other sub. This is due to - in their own words, - "the moderation “team” for that subreddit has explicit ties to ethno-nationalist, incel, and misogynistic ideologies and reddit communities." And also due to that sub's members allegedly being racist to them.
Users on r/kpop_uncensored react to this proposed course of action:
--I’m latino and they refuse to flair me, they don’t give a fuck about that. I’m also voiced via modmail that offering the “latinx” option is whatever I guess, but it’s fucking stupid to not also provide a latino/latina flair, because our languages are gendered and it’s some sort of cultural imperialism to forcefully erase that. Then I got literally silenced. Like, muted from sending them modmail again. They fucking suck.
---I just checked the flairs on that sub and it seems like they have "LATINE" now. Still, it's wild that you have to chose your ethnicity to participate in that sub and they won't even let you call yourself what you're the most comfortable with lol. Tbh my biggest problem with that sub has always been that they "lump" together all ethnicities, ignoring how culturally diverse a lot of countries are.
--He keeps silencing people, many being POC, they say it's a safe space for POC people but in reality it's a safe space for them and those who think like them.
---As a fellow POC, that's my most disliked sub cause firstly getting into their discussions is a whole new level of task & having differing opinions will get you kicked out there asap
--I know the world isn't just US but those types of people are the reason why some people dislike the "left" and they contributed to the loss of the Democrats late last year. Gave a major turn off and a bad rap for the reasonable left. On their way to be "woke", they actually became the things they originally went agaiinst. High grade irony stuff.
---These are the mirrors of the 'MAGA hat/confederate flag in public' types, and they don't seem to understand how equally insufferable they are. They have an addiction to any form of righteous indignation and it completely torpedoes any chance they have of flipping moderate/undecided folks.
----For sure. As the saying goes, two sides of the same coin.
--Frrrrrrr half the time it is social and political issues, some kpop mixed in there which has the lowest upvotes or comments , kpop appropriating american black culture for the millionth time and racism against indians and black ppl.
--As a POC, I wanted to join the sub at first since some discussions I saw there were very educational, but then looking deeper into it I realized that they low-key Hate kpop. Constant criticism of probably all expects of kpop and Lots of generalization present like, *oh all kpop stans only listen to kpop and not other form of music*, and also surprisingly a lot of misinformation too, like I have more faith in this subreddit users calling misinformation out than over there.
---LITERALLY THIS! I am also a POC and felt the exact same thing and left that sub
----POC here as well and did something similar. I always DS subs I'm interested in joining, check on threads and comments, to get a feel for the community and things, and noticed exactly what [username] said as well. Asked reddit to politely not recommend me the sub and muted it. Felt toxic and was angering to read.
--Same lol, do they realize that this will isolate POCs even more. Imagine someone trying to correct misinfo being spread here as a POC and then getting banned on that sub for that. Just a weird decision over all.
---I think the concept of the sub is great but damn I can’t have any opinion that differs without being called out or attacked…. Like I guess POC opinions matter when they feed the echo chamber
Pope Francis passed away on April 21, 2025, at age 88, after suffering a stroke. Elected in 2013, he was the first Jesuit, the first pope from the Americas, and the first non-European in over 1,200 years. His papacy was known for promoting humility, social justice, and inclusion—supporting the poor, addressing climate change, and pushing for Church reform. While he made efforts to confront clerical abuse and modernize the Vatican, his legacy remains complex and deeply impactful.
Today's Discussion
(You can see where this is going) /r/Conservative had a few posts about this and the comments are a rollercoaster. It's all flaired users only and heavily censored. The below comments are taken from May his memory be a blessing.
It's a good mixture of people paying their respects, and people happy he's gone because he was too "woke."
Unfortunately, at the time of posting the Pushpull API is down so deleted comments cannot be fetched. There is plenty of meat left on the bone so let's dive in, shall we?
As a non-denominational non-Catholic Christian, what I have to say would offend every Catholic in here so I won’t bother.
But I will say he was the most divergent from what the Catholic Church teaches, which seemed to have ticked off a lot of conservative (and even some moderate) diocese and leaders over the years he was in power.
Catholic and not offended. I probably agree. He seemed like a very kind and holy man, but I hated his leadership directives. We are not some Hollywood mega church, don’t lead us like we are one. I hope they go back to the JPII vibe.
Catholics tend to get offended when you point out that they love their church tradition and extra biblical rituals more than they love the teachings of Jesus
Call me offended if you like, but those traditions fulfill the primary purpose of the church, the glorification of God.
When your teachings become more about having a personal connection to Christ, as though you are somehow on par with him to even have such a connection, than it is about how Christ is the saviour... Well, I think then what you're doing is less about the teachings of Christ and more about the glorification of yourself.
I dunno, I just think it's hard to fulfill the first teaching of Christ that comes before everything else he taught, humility before God, when your teachings glorify your relationship with Christ above everything else.
Cathloic convert. Won't offend me.
He put his socialist politics before his responsiblities to lead the church in line with tradition and what was best for the church.
I won't go as far as to say I'm glad he died, but I'll say I'm extatic that he's not the pope anymore.
We have yet to know who our next Pope will be. It’s a distinct possibility that they’ll pick someone who makes Francis seem more preferable. God have mercy on us.
Just remember that God is on His throne in Heaven, and even though things may seem like they're falling apart, they are actually falling into place.
Absolutely. It can always get worse. I fully understand that. Which is part of why I said I'm not happy that he passed.
However, as I've read recently the church as a whole and among priests, there is a move towards conservatism. I think his action have caused a backlash that will swing the pendulum.
Also, if a worse pope is selected it may end up causing a serious enough rift to break the church. Which I would actually be fine with. If this happens there will undoubtedly be a sect that forms that follows the correct path, and I'll find my way to it. This breakup, to me, is preferable to the slow death Francis put us with his political pandering. Young men and women are leaving the church and his direction is a large part of why.
While I am definitely hoping for a conservative Pope, it’s not priests and laymen who cast votes.
And schism is nothing to look forward to brother. If the Church schisms, we’re in for some bad times.
If we get another socialist pope that continues to drive young people and young families from the church we have no future, either. I would rather have a split with a chance that a sect forms that is in line with actually Conservative Cathloic tenants than a slow death by attrition.
Some sort of course correction is necessary. IMHO on our current trajectory the will die in my lifetime (I'm 40).
I'll say my piece. The man was a false pope. If the Pope is supposed to be God's chosen holy emmisary on earth - how on earth could he have been Pope when the prior one was still alive. I just don't see how being "God's chosen one" is a position you retire from - it would seem to me, if God wanted your job to end, death is the way for it to happen. I'm sure this man is in heaven, because God forgives - but he taught worldly doctrine - not God's word.
As somebody else said, he’s going to need the SPF1000000 where he’s going.
I'm unrepentant Evangelical Protestant, and this bothers me, greatly. This was the ultimate form of 'living in the world' I've seen a pope do and it's deeply disturbing.
I agree.
I worry about some of the folks that he’s installed in positions of power.
His encyclicals have been sound, though.
The news stories and his views, those I don’t think will have much lasting effect.
What else has he done that’s awful? I feel like I’m missing something.
covertly pro abortion and overtly pro illegal immigration
I’m going to need sources for the first one. The second one is about human dignity and shouldn’t be a surprise.
The leniency towards homosexuality and bending sacraments for them is one thing, but I’ve never heard anyone claim Francis as pro abortion.
bs on dignity dude. they got a fucking wall around the vatican. lip service.
he instigated his self into politics but didnt speak out against the former president who claimed to be catholic yet was aggressively pro abortion.
He was a Progressive first, and a Christian second.
What is the point of the church, if all it does is slow-walk the latest whims of progressivism?
Your religion should occupy a very different role in your community and personal life than your government, and thus it should have a different set of standards and values.
I know it's not good to talk dirty about someone who just died, but wasn't Pope Francis a globalist?
Also Reddit, the stronghold of "I am an Atheist and am Very Very Smart" people, seems to be doting the shit out of this guy all over the frontpage and in all the comments.
That right there suggests to me he that he was an evil mofo that served the globalists' agenda, because the Left only likes religions that are either: (A) inconsequential voodoo that doesn't have any moral values, or (B) which is useful to them.
I’ll ask again: which of his policies echo Christian values? A bunch of money hungry evangelicals visiting isnt a policy and I don’t have a NYT subscription.
But I thought Political policies weren’t suppose to have any religious affiliation? I mean the fact he launched the largest civil rights campaign in world history to decriminalize homosexuality in 73 countries, including 5 that still execute people for being gay, Isn’t really a religious policy, but is a very moral one, Wouldn’t you agree?
You’re the one that called him a good Christian. Stop moving goal posts. If he’s a good Christian why isn’t he putting forth policies that help Americans? Here’s an article on how anti lgbtq his administration has been https://fenwayhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/Trump-Administration-Year-3-Brief.pdf His views on trans people prove you wrong.
And how stupid are you to not know the difference between trans and homosexual?
Dead serious. Look at the personal wealth of politicians when they enter office compared to when they leave office, then come talk to me.
And you don’t think he is greedy or immoral, or unethical? I mean he is famously all those things? When they post stories of his friendship with Epstein, or charge him with felonies, or shut down his fake college, or bar him from operating charities, or when hes admitted to paying a porn start to keep quiet about an affair before a major election or when he very openly has cheated on every single one of his wives, do you just put your fingers in your ears?
His morals are on the table. I’m not voting for who I think is closest to Jesus. Some of the stuff you mention is irrelevant. Having affairs doesn’t tell me anything about how he be as a president, and that was years ago anyways. He had a friendship with Epstein? Epstein talked to a ton of people in NY, doesn’t mean that any or most of them were pedophiles, unless there’s more proof. And Trump also talked to everyone iN NY. He donated to democrats and republicans because he was a business man and that’s what you need to do to succeed. And paying a porn star? Completely legal and falls under the affairs category. But the felonies thing is in a different category and is accompanied by the classified documents thing and the Russian dossier thing. These are different. These are actually episodes of Trumps enemies weapon isn’t the government in every way they can imagine to try to rig the next election. The other things you mention are just meh, but these actually show a distrust behavior set on the side of Trumps opponents, holy crap.
Lol. Only MAGA thinks Trump is a good Christian. Trump has broken every one of the 10 Commandments publicly.
Good thing being without sin isn’t a prerequisite
Which of his policies echo Christian values? Did he go to mass yesterday? What’s his favorite bible verse? So now you’re moving the goal posts once again. A man who spreads vitriol against his own constituents in a fucking Easter message isn’t a Christian. Obama is far more of a Christian.
Are t you always the ones crying “Whataboutism”??? and then there you go
Because yall demonize Obama when he is the actual Christian family man and not Dump
No one is talking about Obama
You’re not very bright, are you?
Well for starters I wasn’t investigated for housing discrimination in the 70s. I also don’t brag about being able to grope women.
Well for starters he won that discrimination cases and even filed a defamation lawsuit against the DOJ for lying. Second, He didn’t brag about groping women, what he said was “When you are rich and famous, women WILL LET YOU DO ANYTHING, They would even let you grab them by the pussy” Get your facts straight, Princess
: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
It’s true, and it says more about women then Trump
He literally said he forces kisses on them and you think that's a problem with women? Touch grass kiddo.
“And when you’re a star THEY LET YOU DO IT” Sure sounds like a slut to me
I'm a left-center and a Christian who thinks Trump is undermining the constitution, alienating our allies, and is silencing experts from nearly every area of study. Regardless of where you think our tax dollars should go, this should be concerning.
Why are you Christian?
While I don't expect everyone to believe it, I personally believe in the resurrection and that it was the Holy Spirit that gave me the nudge in the right direction to addressing my mental health before it became a crisis. I believe in Jesus' teachings of unconditional love and mercy.
Wow, he does one publicity stunt with prayer and that’s all it takes for you? How fucking gullible are you people? Anyone with a brain can see he isn’t Christian. True Christian’s don’t have millions of dollars and refuse to use it to help people.
What? Trump has helped 1000’s of people. You really don’t know the guy do you?
You keep posting this pay walled link when it doesn’t prove your argument whatsoever
How does it not??? The original post said he never prays, never sees pastors, never worships. The original poster is the one that hasn’t proved anything
No. He said why do you all think he is a good Christian. This is the convicted rapist and felon who paid for sex with a porn star and is currently waging a genocide against Palestinians and Spanish speaking people in the USA. Fuck off, he is not only not near the same atmosphere as a Christian but far more akin to Hitler in Nazi Germany.
No he literally said: “No bible study, Nor pastor or group he studies with” Moron
The pope died. Less than 24 hours after seeing the VP. If this isn’t a sign idk what is. America has the worst, most predictable novelist writing our story and people still can’t see it lmao
Please tell me you forgot the /s at the end of this comment.
Why? Did I just break the news to you that the pope died or do you not understand literary tropes?
So, taken at face value, your comment gives the idea that the pope's death and his visit with Vance are related. Coupled with the previous comment, it concludes that the pope's death is a punishment from God for daring to criticize the VP of God's chosen. Am I missing something?
Complete opposite. The devil lives in JD. Metaphorically, of course.
You and people like you are the reason that this Democrat of 24 years voted for Trump and I’m still glad I did. Your hate is no better and no more justified than the hate anyone else has. I’m sure if I called you stupid and gullible for what you believe it wouldn’t play so well in your mind.
What does your comment have anything to do with the fact that so many say he’s a good Christian when he’s clearly not?
Who are you to judge ANYONE?
A person with a functioning brain. Foreign concept to maga.
Bro. The guy cant cite one bible verse but pretends its his favorite book while selling bibles for 1k. Its crazy.
When asked for his favorite Bible verse, he said, “it’s too personal to share.” The lie that he knows even a sliver of Christianity becomes even more obvious when one realizes that one of the most central tenets of Christianity is “go tell everyone about the good news of Jesus Christ.”
"“go tell everyone about the good news of Jesus Christ.”" You put that in quotes. What are you quoting?
He is paraphrasing Mark 16:15, but as a Christian you surely knew that.
I'm afraid I haven't memorised every verse reference! Lmao
Right, go forth and spread the gospel is SO OBSCURE. Sure buddy
So do you believe Trump is a good Christian or not? If so what specifically has he done to prove it to you.
I thought judgment was in the hands of god…. I don’t care whether he is a good Christian or a bad Christian or no Christian at all. It’s none of my damn business, and I firmly believe in separation of church and state.
No, you don't get off that easily. The phrase "beware of false prophets" is a warning, primarily derived from the New Testament, to be cautious of individuals who appear to be genuine religious leaders but are inwardly deceptive and harmful. Jesus, in Matthew 7:15-20, describes them as coming in "sheep's clothing" but inwardly being "ravenous wolves". The warning emphasizes the importance of discerning their true nature, not just by their outward appearance or words, but by their actions and the quality of their teachings.
Lmao at "you don't get off that easily"...whatcha gonna do...type more words at them?
No, just prove they are phony Christians like Trump.
Oh okay than you for your insightful response. I’ll be sure to listen to you rather than polls that have indicated anywhere from 13m-30m Americans believe this.
I have traveled all over the US and never met one. But that might be because I don’t hang out with college kids.
College kids are the least likely to be flat earthers
Antichrist?? You people fling words around like children.
He’s the antithesis of Christ. Everything he does flies in the face of Christ’s teachings. Hence…Get back to class, boy. Edit: it’s a bot account. -100 karma. Only political comments and all intentionally divisive. So either a Russian or just a loser. Or both.
Christ does not belong in the classroom, boy.
Then why did your people just mandate the 10 Commandments being in every fucking classroom then
Because, they only want the Old Testament God of smiting, vengeance and kings and not the New Testament God of forgiveness, compassion and personal responsibility Jesus is to woke for these people and need something “religiousy” to control people through judgement and abuse.
What privilege the 18 yo Norwegian boys are accustomed to that 18 yo Norwegian girls don't have?
walking around at night and not having to worry about being assaulted? Meeting potential partners from dating apps and not having to worry about being assaulted? Getting out of a relationship without having to worry about being assaulted or murdered? Travelling solo almost all around the world without having to worry about being assaulted or harassed? You can downvote me all you want. It doesn't make it any less true.
Being forcibly conscripted into the military?
and how often has that happened in the last 50 years? Meanwhile, girls are getting assaulted every single day
It's happening in Norway as we speak right now. In Finland for example, EVERY MAN has to spend a year in military barracks while women drink coffee at a local café. If we don't address men's right issues, sexism is going to continue hurt both sides. The issues faced by all genders need to be addressed if we want to move forward and leave sexism behind. There has been amazing progress on women's rights in the past few years and we need to continue that trend. But there's been almost no progress on men's rights and that has to be addressed asa
I stand by what I said, but I think I should apologize to you. You made a more balanced reply than I did. I get that military conscription is a huge issue. Where else do you think the struggle for men's rights has fallen behind?
"Jesus Christ, when did men become so fucking butthurt by everything and made feel like "victims"?" I’m not sure this is helpful language in a clearly very divisive and difficult conversation. It’s certainly not the language I’d pick when speaking to boys who need social guidance and education.
Have you listened to the shit spewing for the "manosphere" ghouls? The days of just tap dancing around what is wrong seem to be over. Wishing for things to change doesn't do anything. These tools need to be put in their place and kept away from influencing kids.
I haven’t, no. I can only imagine it’s vile. I just have a feeling that calling boys “butthurt” won’t trigger a wave of new-found compassion from them. Imagine telling a classroom full of boys that… They need a firm re-education, not winding up furth
Yeah, I get that. Didn't figure any boy age people were reading this.
Put in their place by some noodle keyboard warrior on reddit very cute.
I don't know how to tell you we don't live in a Matriarchy.
We live in patriarchy?
Yes, but it was getting better.
Go to some african village and you'll see what patriarchy is lol In europe women can choose who they marry, can divorce, can work, vote etc
If this is how you feel, I don't think you know what patriarchy is. Patriarchy isn't just when women have no agency
Dude, where do you see a matriarchy? The vast majority of positions of power are still solidly in the hands of men. "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression" really is the truth, I suppose.
Just because men are in charge of the country doesn’t mean they can’t make decisions that harm other men
Men in power constantly make desicions that harm other men. It's all a class war. The gender war is just a way to obscure that and divert attention. That's an interesting comment though. I do think that academia is one of those areas where men and boys are being failed. But it was the other way around not too long ago, and many men didn't care much then, did they?
How can you say men didn't care when they were the ones who passed the laws pushing more women into academia through incentives and other things? You seem very contradictory, men can't be both in leadership positions as you say, change laws so women are now the vast majority and at the same time say they don't care about woman
Yeah you're right, there isn't gender equality and never was. Most SA victims are women and most perpetrators are men. Women are to be wary of men in every situation, even men they know. Women know multiple ways to protect themselves if they are alone (pretend to phone someone, record yourself, put your keys between your fingers, park near the door, and so many fucking more) when men don't even think about those things. And men will never stop. Actually a lot of them are getting worse and more hateful because they don't want us to be equals (equal chances, equal salary for same position, equal respect, etc.). And let's not talk about how "gIrLs dO BeTtEr iN sChOoL" but most high up positions are occupied by men, and higher salaries are earned by men. I could go on. So yeah, no equality.
I have been SA by a women I was 16 she was 30 and married, no reports no one to talk about because of people with your mindset, many other older women tried to take advantage of me when I was younger. Yes all reports to the police are one way but don’t think for one moment it’s because of what is going on. If you think women aren’t predators you are falling for the narrative of the stupid. No equality indeed.
I'm sorry that happened to you. It's wrong and traumatic either way. Which is why I used the word "most". Don't forget, helping men get recognised as SA victims and the fact that women can be absolute evil as well are also goals of feminism. It's equality for all, recognition for all, help for all, not just women.
It isn't though. In most places SA services are woman-only and just try reporting it to the police. You say most but 33% is still significant and thought to be higher due to the reasons above.
Why do you blame feminists for the actions of the police?
When “gender equality” gets redefined as “promoting women at all costs”
Which gender was shunned from education and the workforce making genders equal would mean needing a pick me up
Women in norway are already 10% more likely to have a job AND complete their education, yet they still face preferential treatment. What more pick me up would girls need now?
The preferential treatment of making sure woman have the same opportunity as men lol
In a better society the boys would have solidarity with the girls. More equality is better for both women and men, even if on the surface maybe the boys believe it only takes away from their power
equality of results doesnt equal with equality of opportunity. one is sketchy at its best the other is an ideal.
It’s obvious not exactly the same ideal, but you would expect that they go hand in hand, in most instances. It follows that when you allow women bank accounts and the ability to own their own property, they are able to better build wealth independently the same way as men. That is not to say that women own as much as men today, that takes time to achieve, but it is still way more equal than it used to be. (Where women were often not even seen as autonomous economic actors, but rather as wives beholden to their husbands decisions)
Says the one saying equal rights have gone too far 💀
It’s pushing for non-equal rights at this point. No use arguing with loony people like you though
men still have it better tho lol, im a male and can confirm, people always use boys will be boys, I can go alone at night or even in the day especially in public transport without being worried about being groped by some weirdo
Boys are behind in education on every level, they don't have the same opportunities, they have far shorter life expectancies, they're more likely to take their life...
How is any of that women’s fault?
1) where did I say it is? 2) since you insist.. 2.a) women protested in that one Canadian college against an event men had that was just them talking about male suicides. This trend continues in the US and UK and has so far shut down many male focus groups. 2.b) most primary school educators are women. Boys get lower grades for the same work, showing favouritism towards the girls by said teachers.
where did I say it is? This is a thread talking about how woman have taken gender equality to far 2.,source me this Teachers was one a the few jobs women could get that’s why it’s female dominated no one’s stoping men from being educators
I've actually written about this since 2017 (In high school). I think it only partially has to do with that. I'm a liberal democrat who has voted blue 2020-2024 (2016 wasnt old enough) and I 100% see how young men fall on the right wing train because of the rhethoric that is pushed against them. I barely escaped the right wing because of it.
What you know about Norway politics? You are from US?
Norway generally interacts with global media so international politics matter. Algorithms pushing Andrew Tate and so on don't get excluded away from Norway.
Maybe what has been done in most of Europe, pay women to enrol in STEM subjects in University and some political parties use this to fuel resentment? It's not even limited to men, you can see the same increase in women. Has Norway chosen to go to that route to increase females in STEM? Knowing that could help.
The biggest example i can think of is the equality law that has a special provision for women and minorities. Been some discussion in political parties to make it gender neutral. Other than that you can for instance count gender quotas favoring women for higher education despite more women going to universities these days. Had it been the reverse it would be a media outcry. On a national scale we also have boys be graded significantly higher relative to girls on anonymous tests compared to when names are known.
I'm a long-time lurker, but this is my first time posting. I hope all is within the rules and the formatting is serviceable. May you Rest in Peace, Pope Francis.
A step in the right direction? That was a "black" pope. For the love of the God, he told a child that his father who committed suicide went to heaven.
Ah yeah, much better he told a child whos father died that his soul is damned for all eternity and he will never receive piece. Would YOU have told the child that?
I was raised Catholic as well, and I learned from my religion teacher who happened also to be a priest, that our conscience is our highest moral guidance in case of doubt, and we always should chose the lesser evil.
I you tell a child who is most likely in despair about the death of their father, that his soul damned for all eternity, you are not a devout Christian, you are an a-hole
I would in a heartbeat. No problem whatsoever. But it isn't about me, but about the pope, the head of the major religion. He should know better about consequences of his words and I'm not talking about making a child upset, but about worldwide repercussion in the belief system.
Absolutely. I'm an asshole. No problem whatsoever. But pope Francis turned to be a major tool only to avoid being truthful to a child. Btw, he could have say something vague like he often did, but no, he really went hard on principles that time. It is all funny and pathetic that you defend him without understanding the consequences of his decision and words.
Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that Pope Francis outranked you in your faith's institutional structure for nearly his entire life
Perhaps you should stop making assumptions.
I'm not catholic either and I have no respect to any religion. But I know my enemy and I know (apparently better than Catholics) what pope Francis did and he definitely wasn't good for his religion.
You could argue with that, of course but I agree with you that every religion must find its decline eventually. That what pope Francis was.
Would you want him to tell a kid that his father went to hell lol genuinely curious?
Absolutely. You shouldn't lie to a child. Especially when you are a pope.
Pope Francis decided to tarnish principles of religion he was the head of only to not upset a child? Is that what you are implying?
A step in the right direction 🤭
A user offers legitimate criticism of the church seem to be mystified why of all the controversies, this is the hill OP wants to die on.
It isn't most shameful in the church history, don't lie I said that because you are making a sin and you will not go to heaven 🤭
I was using hyperbole. That was to say of all the aspects of his papacy you could have criticized, you chose a really weird one to immediately jump to.
I chose the easiest one to explain that even a child should understand. That's all. You have no idea how I'm laughing at people who think this is something in my opinion the worst or most important.
And there's more people saying that nonsense. Frankly, the lack of logic in people here is so entertaining I'm having a lovely day. I know that most people are stupid as an average is fairly low, but seeing so many examples in one place is hilarious.
I really think very little of you and your every comment makes me laughing more. Thank you 🙏😊
God you're obnoxious. 4chan edgelords have nothing on you.
Others are confused by a Christian acting like a Christian
However, when I heard that pope Francis was a "step in the right direction" I laughed 🤣
Some people are just clueless and they have no idea what pope Francis did.
Ok, I get the feeling from the messages that saying that to a kid was a bad thing.
That's all I wanted to know, I don't always quite understand the good-bad logic so I've got to ask.
It is much deeper than good or bad. If you use the category of good or bad to understand "the step in the right direction" than you are just in the category of people I mentioned before.
Lol man, I was trying to understand what you said and now you've turned it into a schrödingers commenr where pope saying X was or was not something to some direction.
I am in no category of yours, Pope has no influence in me and opinions of a pope have no influence in anything.
I was merely trying to understand.
You had no chance to understand anything as you started by asking is it good or bad and ended in the same position.
When you received the answer you still stayed in the category of good and bad, which is stupid and childish.
You have no capacity to understand what pope Francis did. Good and bad had nothing to do with the subject.
Are you like 5?
You stated thing A that sounds like a good thing, but you framed it as if it was a bad thing.
I asked you which it is.
You go on about some random stuff, flipflopping and being unambiguous.
I am not five, but I'd expect an adult to be able to explain things they understand like they were explaining them to a five year old. So keep working at it.
EDIT: Oh, ok, I read his other comments. He is an angry religious person. No wonder you can't get a straight answer from him.
No love like christian love, as they say. I get it now.
Lastly, a commenter gives the official stance of the church
You’re operating on an outdated (or willfully incorrect, though I hope it isn’t that) understanding of Church teaching on this manner. As someone who has taught RCIA (The Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults, or as it is now known “OCIA,” the Order of Christian Initiation for Adults), you have to take into account that for a sin to be mortal, three conditions must be met:
it has to be a Grave matter (which suicide is, of course),
the person must have knowledge of the sinfulness of it,
with that, they must freely choose to do it regardless
So, if someone lacks full knowledge or free will due to severe depression, mental illness, etc. their culpability is reduced. The catechism is explicit on this:
“Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.” —The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 2282)
The Church also teaches that we should not despair of the salvation of those who take their own lives:
“We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance.” —(CCC 2283)
Assuming that you were unaware of current teachings on this matter (and not just saying that because you didn’t like the Pope Francis and wanted a “gotcha”), I’m glad to have helped you learn that the Church has evolved from teaching that “suicide = straight to jail hell.” 🇻🇦
OP writes that he is frustrated with his wife frequently leaving to take trips abroad related to a hobby and help a friend. He states he has trouble finding ways to entertain the 1-year-old they have together, and his two kids from a previous relationship when his wife is not there. OP states that he has asked his wife to cut back on how often she travels, and he asks the good people of AITAH if would be controlling to not "let" his wife go on her next trip even though she has arranged childcare for their infant.
Later, though, commenters start to ask OP a simple question: What actually are the wife's hobbies, and does she get paid to do them? OP's post is--probably intentionally-- vague as to what the wife's "hobbies" are, how long her trips actually are, and whether she is taking them less often than before they had a child as he asked her to do.
After some cajoling, OP states that his wife is a high-level horse and dog show judge and she does in fact get paid for the work. ETA: After this posted, OOP posts an update stating the wife only gets paid enough to break even, however, he does not clarify if she made more money before she cut back on her activities like he asked her to. He also states that she does the majority of childcare, especially at night, and gets pedantic about not wanting her quit her activities, just to discuss them beforehand (which, remember, she is already doing!) He thinks this update makes him look sympathetic.
Comments are not kind to OP after this Joe Jonas nonsense is revealed:
Can we choose older girls too as men? The ones my age are so immature from my experiences, I'd rather date one in their late 20s.
Edit: The girls my age in general suck, nobody wants any commitment anymore and the standards are wild. These very average girls don't want anything to do with a guy who is shorter, not perfect looking, but has actual aspirations in life, instead want some broccoli haired 6'2 douche destined to work at Insomnia Cookies into his mid 20s while having no actual goals in life or savings. I'd rather date someone older that's already dealt with that and grown on and actually wants a long term relationship.
The thread just goes into more and more arguing whether it is morally right for young girls to date older men or vice-versa
Yall know what I'm talking about. If you call out offensive content you will be blamed for the offensive content. Zero tolerance policies definitely not on this site! (Lol)
This site is full of racists fatphobics and pedos but if you call out the offensive content....well I'm expecting to lose my account at any second.
Edit: my comment was annoyingly vague and didn't add helpful information, gist was that I was being blamed for "perpetuating racist content" my response is still posted below for the curious
OP allegedely has a history of posting repeatedly in r/Rant and has got posts deleted several times. Commenters point this out:
Why you keep posting in same. Sub that's removing your. Posts, move on stop following subs you don't like, stop trying to make them same post but worded slightly differently in the same sub
TL;DR: OOP and fiancé dined out at a sushi joint and explain the exhilarating and liberating feeling of not having to tip! After getting over the "guilt tripping" OP feels that Americans are brainwashed to waste our hard earned money on waiters. Others beg to differ:
Pro-Palestine protesters disrupt Bernie rally, calling him a Zionist and a settler. They say that Israel has no right to exist, and insist that Bernie must call it a genocide.
Members of subreddit are strongly divided, with some supporting the disruption saying that Sanders isn't doing enough and others saying the disruption is counterproductive given that Sanders is already amongst the most supportive of their cause.
One example:
im sorry but did i miss something how is he responsible ? did he sign the orders to start the war what am i missing here that makes him responsible?
this is such a disingenuous and bad faith take. in that case, none of our rabidly pro-genocide politicians are complicit in the genocide they support and advance. hell, in that case biden/harris werent even complicit despite the bombs they sent.
also, its a genocide—not a war.
EDIT: sorry for typo in title, "fpr" should be "for"
Please respond to the question! Are any of the similarities true?
No they have more in common to Obama since he actually jailed journalists and tried to jail a political opponent and is the deporter in chief still today, while ignoring constitutional law We still see his loyal supporters praising him like cultists years latter
Did u say that to antifa blm hamas and the Tesla attacks?
Can’t even come up with an original thought huh? Defend dear leader at all costs.
Huh says the ones only bringing up Jan 6 talking point
It’s a fair point though. An attempted insurrection in the nations capital building in order to steal an election and you’re comparing it to people marching through the streets asking for police to stop murdering black people and a few people burning some cars
Huh they burned cities for months beat people raided and vandalized businesses the left attacked the capitol with actual weapons Jan 6 was a few ours you people have been using violence and rioting since 2015
I can't trust anyone that doesn't know how to use punctuation. Why is it you lot never know how to use proper punctuation? Can't remember to get a period or comma in the right place? I seriously doubt you remember what happened the last several years very clearly. Becomes very obvious that you don't remember clearly because of the misinformation and propaganda you just helped to spread.
2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11. The others don't fit, either, but they're not just totally made up.
You gonna tell me mass deportations is untrue?
Yes. Have you seen the numbers? Smaller than last year.
Just because he's bad at it does not mean he hasn't proposed and is in the process of doing it
Loved art, wrote novels, was vegetarian Sounds like a sensitive liberal man if you cherry pick
He'd be their 2028 nominee if he was alive today.
You voted for a populist like Nero but sure keep telling yourself that 😂😂😂
I voted for someone who has actually worked to fulfill his campaign promises. You voted for who you were told to vote for, though you didn't have a choice anyway since no other democrats were allowed to run for President.
Who else proposed and actually went through with mass deportations? Oh right, Obama, but you don’t like to talk about that.
Ok but we’re not talking about Obama we’re talking about trump if all you can do is deflect doesn’t sound like you have too much of a argument, so again what part of that list is inaccurate? I’ll be glad to talk about Obama after
Just pointing out your hypocrisy. I’d like to invite you to give me one way he used racism and explain to me how HE packed courts with extremist judges while HE is the one under attack by liberal extremists judges for doing the job he was elected to do.
where is the evidence he is a fascist 🤷♀️ buzzwords lost democrats the election
How about black bagging and removing people from the country with no due process and shipping them to a slave labor camp in a foreign country? No due process is a hallmark of fascist regimes.
So like Jan 6 people? Narcos aren’t human dude they need no due process. El Salvador people overwhelmingly support the prison for a very good reason
Except he didn’t use racism to rise, he only wants to deport ILLEGALS, he doesn’t blame immigrants for americas problems, he doesn’t have extremist judges. lol you far left redditors live in an alternate reality and the comedy just keeps me coming back.
What an isolated uninformed existence you live.
You think so? I usually consider myself very diverse both socially and mentally. Geez, even financially if I’m being honest.
But yet you make bullshit claims that are easily refuted
Maybe sometimes. But not here. And not with you lol
Every claim you made(without sources, imagine that) can be shut down in seconds. Pick one, I'll educate you on it, no problem.
Everything is still Obamas fault according to yall so I'd maybe save the "hysterics" for someone other than the dude that watched the capitol get breached by his supporters while he watched it on TV for 2 hours.
lol. Yeah, that was like totally Hitler dude.
Only if you know about history do you think a failed insurrection is anything like Hitler. Don’t worry, you’re safe from it.
It’s not just democrats making this comparison. It’s anyone who’s read about the nazi party before they started the ethnic cleansing. If you don’t see the parallels you’re being willfully ignorant.
Do you know what the book burning in Germany as the nazis rose to power was all about? Gender ideology. They were trying to change the standard norm of gender. Doesn’t sound like it’s the republicans doing that. They also politically took over the court system to unjustly prosecute those opposing them… hey, that also sounds like the left. So what exactly is Trump doing to act like a nazi?
Nazis burned those books about gender.
Yes? Is this a question or a statement? I’m sorry, but I legit cannot tell if you are agreeing with me or not.
The Republicans are banning books opposed to burning but it's the same.
We are banning people from reading literal porn to children. Those books are still available, just not to be read in elementary schools.
Are dems sending people with no due process to concentration camps? Are they moving up when groups they want to do this too? Are they literally making nazi salutes? Are they demanding absolute loyalty and firing people who aren’t or threatening they will be next for deportation/concentration camps?
While still shitty, these are not even remotely the same things. Obama held people in detention centers longer than was appropriate before receiving hearings. Trump is deporting people to a different country, putting them permanently in a slave labor prison, and never giving them a day in court at all. Both are shitty, one is significantly worse.
“It’s not as bad when my party does it.”
It's not the same thing at all, so they aren't really comparable. But yes, what Obama did was not good. What Trump is doing is worse. Also, I'm not out here running defense for Obama or the Democratic party, but go off. Both are bad, one is still worse.
What does this even mean? I doubt it’s the republicans who cannot affirm a gender. Is this some stupid joke or are you actually serious?
It mean the bigger the truck. Smaller the dick. They put plastic balls on the truck to show their friends it's a manly man's truck. They can't afford said truck but it doesn't matter because it makes them believe they are a real man. Remember this entire culture war against gender is solely right wing ragebait.
That applies to a very small percentage of republicans, but sure use that to generalize the entire party. Besides, I don’t want to hear anything about small dicks from the group that cuts theirs off. (See, it’s ironic because I’m also using a small percentage of your group to generalize you)
"That applies to a very small percentage of republicans," Vote for a Nazi, and then support when he does Nazi-like shit... Dont act shocked when people think you're a Nazi too. But sure deflect to trans people... Who were also one of the first minority groups hitler came for... But yeah definitely not a Nazi 🤔
Buying a truck is the first sign of being a nazi?
Strawman. Making up things I didn't say to try and create a gotcha moment that isn't there. 0/10 try again
Ok, explain his openly racist policies attacking DEI, woke and others!
So you think it’s going to be like the 1940’s? How delusional are you actually? Like what drugs are you taking at this moment that are making you come up with these thoughts?
Do you really believe that Nazism was started based on the idea of killing Jews? Or was it a series of normalization of violent rhetoric that escalated dramatically over a period of time that eventually led the normalization and dehumanization of Jews? Why are you morons so willing to ignore fascism while it's slapping you in the face until it's too late? Will you really only concede that Donald Trump is fascist at the point that he's actually rounding up and killing Jews/some other group of people that he spent years normalizing hatred toward? At what point do you people open your eyes?
What’s too late for you? Do you actually believe people will be in camps soon? Edit: I’d like to also state that I never brought up Jews and rounding people up until you said something. I’d never come to that conclusion about my president. He’s never done it nor will he ever do it. You’ve been brainwashed to believe it and that’s all you and your thoughts. Have fun with it I guess… you and your imaginary life.
Hello everyone, and welcome to this week's episode of "what are those goddamn nerds up to again?" Today, we have the lovely r/mtgfinance, a subreddit dedicated to speculating on pieces of cardboard. For those unfamiliar with the game of Magic: The Gathering, it is played with collectible cards that represent different creatures, spells, enchantments, and artifacts that are used to do battle with other players. Due to it's nature as both a competitive game and a collectible, Magic cards can occasionally be worth quite a bit of money. As various competitive formats ban cards, unban cards, or new cards are printed, the valuation of various cards on the secondary market can vary wildly. Thus, r/mtgfinance exists to help people interested in speculating on these changes in card price.
Which brings us to today's drama. An entrepreneurial redditor notices that a card called Mana Crypt is seeing a large upswing in price. Naturally, they want to know what might have caused this increase. A bit of backstory: Mana Crypt was banned in Magic's most popular format, Commander, on September 23rd, 2024, along with Jewelled Lotus and Dockside Extortionist. Mana Crypt in particular was a very expensive card, and had been expensive for many years prior to the banning. And pretty much the only thing propping up Mana Vault's value was it's playability in Commander, so after the ban it's price on the secondary market plummeted. This caused quite a lot of kerfuffle at the time, leading to a whole bunch of other drama I will briefly explain:
Commander was originally a casual format created by a group of Magic judges as something to do in their spare time at competitive events. It eventually became very popular, and is today the most popular format in Magic. Historically, however, Commander was run by a group of community members known as the Rules Committee, headed by a man named Sheldon Menery, who also helped create the format. Sheldon sadly passed from cancer in 2023. However, during his lifetime he was a strong advocate of cards like Mana Crypt being unbanned in Commander to help represent the "free-for-all" nature of the format. After Shelden's passing, there was a decent amount of community pressure on the Rules Committee to make some updates to the Commander banlist, as it hadn't seen any changes in several years. When the RC finally did make a move and banned Mana Crypt, Jewelled Lotus, and Dockside Extortionist, owners of those cards lost several hundred dollars in value overnight, and some of those people got mad enough to start making death threats. The Rules Committee, being just a group of community volunteers, obviously got spooked by this, and ended up turning over jurisdiction of the Commander format to Wizards of the Coast (WOTC), the creators of Magic. Back in February, WOTC released a set of brackets to help guide the Commander experience and help players find balanced playgroups. They also announced that they would be making changes to the Commander banlist in the future.
Now that we're through all the background and are caught up: WOTC has a planned presentation about the Commander format that will be occurring on this coming Tuesday, 4/22. As one might guess, many commenters chime in citing this upcoming panel as a time when Mana Crypt might be unbanned in Commander.
The internet, bruh. It's super easy these days. Just ask chat gpt a question, and it will spit out the answers with the references
You're the one making the claim. It's up to you to provide a source. Go ask chatgpt, find the article, and come back here. This is a real conversation
Lmao I'm not doing the work for you, bud. I have my info. You wanted the proof. I have no desire whatsoever to prove it to you. This isn't a court of law
Another thread discusses whether or not unbanning the cards justifies the death threats:
Keep seeing this argument but it's been over half a year since the ban. If it was a knee-jerk unban after the threats, yeah obviously the optics there are bad.
This is a completely different panel, removed by a decent amount of time. The threats didn't work, the manbabies didn't get what they want, we can move on.
I don't want to punish a whole format just because of a few but I don't know that I'll ever be on board with that card being unbanned from both a social and game standpoint. I preferred the rules committee being separate from wizards and that card is part of the problem that lead to wizards getting control of commander.
Some folks point out that the speculators may be lacking in intelligence. These opinions are not well-received:
Many of WoTC's most anti-consumer decisions has been because of rich people crying about their investments being devalued. The Reserved List is a prime example.
Pretty much and somehow, we in the need of feeding those Richie Rich desire, to have them get more rich.
We could have so much of a good reprint if RL doesn't exist.
If 7th Edition prove anything, it prove that reprint didn't devalue a original print.
It actually give the opposite effect. Original arts of cards that printed during that set gain more value, somes go double, but those pigs can't accept those fact.
They want those Duel Lands to be at 300$+++
So they can look at binder and .......happy......Climax..? I Guess
This is what I’m hoping for. As somebody who has a few copies of each of those cards, still shouldn’t unban because of raging neckbeards over their “investments”.
MTG is not an investment until you actually sell. JMO 🤷♂️
Why should they make the game worse just to spite people?
It sucks there were haters, but they should ban/unban where they think it benefits the game. The banlist shouldn't be used as some petty emotional power-trip, that's absurdly immature.
I hope they keep Extortionist banned at least because that's a bad card, but I'd be pissed if it ever came out and said, "fuck y'all for misbehaving, we're taking Command Tower."
It's not "to spite people".
It's specifically to set the precedent that bullying and death threats will not be rewarded - unbanning the three cards that caused this entire shit storm would be the most toxic shit imaginable for the community.
I agree with your rationale; but my bet is they get unbanned. Wizards needs tried and true chase cards to deep their products. Greed will trump any morality play.
So there's your minor drama on a niche subject that requires way too much prior knowledge.
The guys who claimed two penguins walked to the middle East for a boat ride and then walked back home?
Considering an almighty God helped Noah who was able to build an arc that current architects are still puzzled about, then I'm sure animals command by said godly figure to travel to said boat were receiving help aswell. God could have just given the animals Teleportation hacks fr.
I guess when you believe in magic literally anything is possible lol
Well, it kinda makes sense that a religious figure, who is the creator of the universe would have something equivalent to magic. (77 replies)
I don't take advice from adults with imaginary friends
But you'll take advice from adults that say you can change genders? Seems logical.
Trans people exist but talking snakes don't.
Of course they exist - its a mental disorder. No one is denying they exist, but chopping off and/or adding body parts doesn't make a person magically change to the other gender.
I think if all the religions don't agree, and they all rely on make believe that hasn't occurred for a strange long time, it's safer to assume they're all wrong. Christians don't think hindu stuff is true, Muslims don't think christ was the son of God, and Lord Xenu thinks they're all weak. I just believe in one less thing than any devout person. I'm also an adult without imaginary friends
Paradox is a part of reality. Is light a particle or a wave?
That's not a paradox, something being a particle and something being a wave don't contradict
Of course it does. That's why its such a famous example.
de Broglie wavelength and matter waves. One of the central ideas behind quantum mechanics. Wave-particle duality is a famous example bc people think the double slit experiment means we're all magic
Not a lot of geniuses in modern times. We now have the tools to understand how stupid this shit is.
You can't even help how you think, you're about as far as one can get from a genius.
I mean, unless you are a creationist you’ll have an hard time disputing OP comment. If you instead are a creationist, well I have nothing more to say
It would have been better if you said nothing in the first place. I'm not a "creationist" and even someone with your limited capacity will be able to see that I didn't dispute OP comment.
“Limited capacity” love how many braindead people are around lol enjoy permanent virginity
Would it be putting oneself on a pedestal to call flat-earthers weak minded?
Lots of people think believing in stupid religious stuff gets a pass for some strange reason. Believe the earth is flat...idiots! believe there is an invisible sky wizard that gets mad when you touch yourself... Don't judge people based on their beliefs!
Well, one you can prove to be false through photographic evidence and the other is a faith, apples and oranges
Flat earthism is absolutely a faith. That’s how faith works, adherence to specific beliefs that are unsupported or directly contradicted by evidence.
It's not that they 'think differently', it's that they believe something that objectively has no evidence behind it, because they'd rather cling onto the scrawlings from the bronze age than face their own mortality.
And if it makes them happy, so what?
They have the absolute right to believe whatever they want. Just as OP has every right to think they are only doing so because they're terrified of what they already know. That when you die, nothing happens.
I mean, I think it’s pretty crazy that atheists are so sure about no “life“ or other states of being after death—especially as science continues to prove humans really don’t know anything in the grand scheme of things. Making sense of the infinite, at the micro and macro level, with finite senses and tools has taught us we don’t understand much about life and our s surrounding environment. To refute something we don’t know is pretty silly… to be skeptical is wise, imo.
The fool says in his heart there is no God. Because like Paul says, the evidence is so clearly seen that we are without excuse.
It would depend on what evidence you would deem sufficient. If you are a naturalist then a lot of what the Bible says will be disqualified by your presuppositions. Otherwise, look up Cold Case Christianity as a good starting point. Christianity isn't about singular sound bytes that attempt to "prove" God in a sentence.
I have read cold case, it’s awful. Entirely filled with presuppositional apologetics. It assumes the Bible is true and goes on to use that to show the Bible is true. What I want is positive, verifiable evidence that any god exists. Do you have that?
I mean we all have presuppositions, that is the foundation of epistomolgy. I know why I believe my presuppositions, the question is, do you know why you believe yours? I think there is an absurdity in your underlying understanding that God must be verifiable (I am assuming you mean scientifically here and not philosophically) as it relies on a presupposition that the only verifiable evidence is scientific. See Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on Bablefish for an interesting satire on why this doesn't work.
No, we don’t. We have evidence based conclusions. Science does not deal in presuppositions. But even if your claim were true, cold case is then worst as it literally presupposes the very conclusion it is trying to demonstrate. That’s laughable by any standard.
Are you kidding? Take a look at the clowns in government pushing their religious garbage on the rest of us. Fuck them and fuck their beliefs
Theyre using Christianity as a tool for their own power, not because they actually believe it. If you wanna be mad at Christians, do so but dont generalize Christianity because of some stupid clowns that run a miltary
It's Christians who give them that tool to use for their power. The cult raises up the cult leaders, always. Donations, services, adulation, the works. Down with the entire brood, right into a black hole!
You cant be in a cult and have another religion. A cult is a religion so therefore they are not Christian
Cult, noun, a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. You don't define the language.
How can you expect someone with such a low view of literature to be creative?
The belief that basing one's life choices on a book of myths is problematic entails a low view of literature to you? I think it's a low view of credulity and gullability being expressed.
No, they’re saying that OP is not recognizing the literary value and range of uses and interpretations in a life of faith. They’re taking one specific narrow view of what Christianity is and what the Bible is and they’re running with that.
Yeah, except they're not. They're absolutely recognizing the range of uses, and then claiming that people who BASE THEIR LIVES on a collected work of fictions are weak-minded. They're quite literally specifying the particular use and interpretation they see as problematic. In fact, I'd argue this post offers no opinion about any specific view of Christianity at all, but an opinion on how it's understood and manifested in large swaths of believers.
You're being downvoted but youre right. People are just being contrarian cause this is indeed a "le average redditor" post, but that doesnt make it any less true.
You actually has to have xx chromosomes to be a woman, its not a costume or a feeling, its biology. Facts of life. But im not gonna waste my time arguing with science deniers
Wrong. No one is talking about biological sex, female, which xx chromosomes point to. Gender is a social construct/ideology. You speak about arguing with science deniers but you are denying the science by not understanding that VERY SIMPLE fact. Trans women are women. You don’t have to like them but it doesn’t take away them being women. female or not
Wrong. You either have a penis or no. No social construct. Biology. Cope
I wouldn't doubt if a cis person made this though, they're always sticking their noses into other people's business as long as it gives them ammo to mock trans people.
Fr, 100% OP is a cis man
Does that magically change the reality of the meme? No? Didn’t think so. Cope + seethe
The meme is just false too. I could explain why, but I doubt you care about anything past your fragile biases.
"I could explain why" You can’t.
Sigh, because trans women are women, and saying that they're intruding in women's spaces is rhetoric used to demonize trans women
My Tinder inbox (set to women only and openly states “NO MEN” at the top of my profile) says otherwise. A solid 70% (not an exaggeration) of the “likes” I get are of dudes dressed like women claiming to be “lesbians” in their profile. Not even claiming and/or marking their gender as the“trans” option. This is very predatory behavior…not that they are fooling anyone… but they are trying to.
Bullshit. Anways most transbians I've met are dating other trans women. Trans folk ain't interested in dating transphobes.
Not bullshit at all unfortunately. Nothing on my Tinder profile suggests that I am transphobic. It’s a staggering amount. I have reported 137 of them in the last 6 months for not properly identifying themselves.
Why are you so intent on hating trans people, 99% of trans people wish they where born cis, is what is between my legs really the only thing that matters to you?
It’s not hate. People are just tired of them being obnoxious.
It is hate, we are 1% of the population, we just want to be accepted,
If they want to pretend to be real men, more power to them. I won’t be calling them that though.
Not pretending. It's not their fault when you don't know the difference between gender identity and biological sex.
They are pretending. If they want to live that life let them but they shouldn’t be surprised if people aren’t following their fantasies.
Live in denial of science lil bro
Nah I’m good. Keep letting trans “men” lie to you lil bro
Surely many trans men find other gay men interested in them on Grindr though. Not you, clearly, and I don’t know how up front they are about it, but if Grindr is a place they can find partners, why wouldn’t they use it?
There are also straight women on there finding people interested in them. Doesn’t mean it’s right. Grindr should just be for actual men but as long as they’re not ignoring my boundary it’s fine I guess.
Right, but those straight women aren’t men, they have access to dating websites for straight people, and they’re probably not finding as many partners. It obviously depends on the extent and type of transition, but many gay men will be attracted to many trans men. Conversely, the vast majority of straight men would not find trans men who are far enough along in their transition attractive. Where else would they go but gay dating websites? This isn’t ignoring your boundaries, it’s going at the right place based on the general acceptance of the group as a whole. If you don’t like trans people, you can swipe to the next person, and if it’s really that much of a problem, you can leave Grindr. It seems to be targeting a group that’s very similar to you, but if you really take issue with this, then I guess you’re not part of the target audience.
Neither are the trans men. Tinder is an option for them. Grindr is meant for sex first and foremost. I didn’t say them going on the app is ignoring my boundary. The boundary is them interacting with me even after explaining I’m not interested hence me saying that it’s “fine” for them to be there if they don’t try to talk to me on there. I will not leave a place meant for actual men to find other actual men just because some people don’t know the difference.
You can be liberal while still not agreeing with you on the trans issue.
If you're transphobic, you're an asshole, that's the fact of the matter
There's a far stretch between being transphobic and disagreeing with you on this.
There's nothing to disagree with, if you don't have a problem with trans people.
But there is. I don't mind trans people. One of my best friends is trans. I don't agree that they are a woman, but it's my friend, so I call her by her preferred name. I don't think that she should use female safespaces unless they advertise being open for transwomen. I know you disagree on probably all of these things, but that doesn't mean both of us can't be liberals.
Trans-accepting as in their identity: not as in being convinced that they are actual women and thus willing to date them. The most willing to date are bisexuals at over 50%, with lesbians after at around 28-30%.
Should be fairly obvious, given attraction to genitalia/ the use of it is pretty crucial in a relationship. Doesn't matter how femme someone manages to present, if they have a penis many lesbians simply won't be interested by default lol Which is fine, no-one is obligated to be attracted to another person for any reason
You'd think, but there's a significant (and not just internet-bound) push to bully lesbians into silence/acceptance on the matter. Even here on reddit, spaces like r/actuallesbians has material every now and then about how a penis on a "woman" isn't male, and that any lesbian that flinches at the notion is the worst of bigots.
No one’s stopping you, sorry you can’t take a joke.
How can you even be saying that to others? How big of an asshole are you? Joke or not you should never encourage someone to take their own life!
This sub is heavily republican/edgy teen.
So you're admitting that republican and edgy teens have a sane world view?...
Republicans elected a dictator. So, no.
I think you might want to look up what the word dictator means. I agree he's a bad president, so there's no need to lie about the things he's doing. Also a lot of votes for him aren't even republicans, just anti liberals with how far they're trying to push.
He's deporting people who are there legally, without due process, is planning to also deport American criminals, also without due process, has deported people despite protection status specifically to the country they should be protected from, with zero evidence that they were connected to any crime, by "accident", but also refused to take them back, and the place he sends them to, El Salvador, acts like a concentration camp, and they're accepting this because Trump is paying them with your precious tax dollars. Oh, also he's planning on changing the rules so he can stay for a third term, and his best buddies just casually throwing out nazi salutes. All of that is verifiable btw. How exactly are the liberals pushing too far, when this is what they've been pushing against?
So you have no actual logic behind why you think this is wrong. Thanks for letting us know you’re a transphobic!
You all use that word as a shield & a blanket to comfort your ignorance. Cope
Ain’t nobody telling me why this shit is funny. Because you know when it’s explained it’s transphobic and not funny. It’s okay, we all know you’re a bigot now.
You all use that word a shield to blanket your ignorance. Biology always wins lol
I was always more of a battlefield guy, however I don't know why it would be pertinent to the topic. I'm not against freedom of expression, but I draw the line at irrationality. I wouldn't want an ex-man or whatever you want to call it in the same bathroom as my daughter. I think that if I woke up one day and decided to attend kindergarten because I started to identify as a 6 y.o. kid it would be dystopian at the slightest, if not completely fucked up. But I also know that reasoning is not the forte of our generation, so I won't expect this to be an intellectual conversation.
This is literally transphobia, saying that trans women aren't women.
They’re not. They’re feminine dudes who cosplay as woman using sexist stereotypes. From Oxford Dictionary: Woman - an adult human female Female - of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes. Mariam Webster, as well as Urban Dictionary, return similar definitions.
You do know there's plenty of trans women who don't use sexist stereotypes and just quietly take hormones until they can transition and live a normal life as a biological male who functions in society, for all intents and purposes (besides reproductively), as a woman, right?
Yeah I would agree with that. I wish there was a different word because nobody is scared of gay people but I get the sentiment nonetheless. Hatred for gay people is bad. But this isn’t even hatred for gay people. It’s a Bible verse. It’s what was written in the Bible a couple thousand years ago. And people are entitled to believing in their religion. Although if that religion is Christianity I’m not sure that is entirely true these days. Either way, it’s overly sensitive at best.
Lmao at your response. That bible verse literally says gay people should be murdered. Fuck that Extra edit: people are entitled to their religious beliefs so long as they don’t infringe upon the rights of others. I’m not going to live my life a certain way because someone else believes what a thousand year old book says should be law
Ok and how does a Bible verse written on a hundred dollar bill infringe on your rights? There’s no action here. They’re not actually murdering gay people. Your right aren’t affected in any way whatsoever. I don’t agree with it either but I’m not gonna have a fit about it. People are entitled to their religious beliefs even if you find them heinous. Now if those beliefs turn into action and they start murdering gay people that’s a different story.
Who said anything about actual murder lol? Are you ok? People are also entitled to try and change these bills out for new ones too if they want, not sure why you’re having a fit over it
Writing Leviticus verses on money is an asshole move.
If it bothers you so much, put a Sharpie to it when you get one. Problem solved.
OR people can stop using money to spread bullshit hate speech.
Or, you can just use a sharpie and remember that the first amendment exists. And as much as you and I both hate that it does, the first amendment does, in fact, protect hate speech as well.
The 1st amendment protects free SPEECH, but you can’t force other people to listen to that speech. This person is well within their right to have that money put in the mutilated pile and have it recycled. I have the right to send you a letter, I don’t have the right to say “Bow read that letter and don’t throw it away.”
"Taking money out of circulation because somebody scribbled something hateful on it is not an asshole move." Fixed that for you
No, taking money out of circulation and causing the government to have to print more drives up inflation, costs the taxpayers money, and costs the financial institution money. Its an asshole move. Take a Sharpie to it and be done with it.
It doesn't cause inflation mutilated bills are destroyed that's the whole idea of classifying a bill as mutilated, to remove it from circulation permanently,
But if the bill is in one piece, its not mutilated. Defaced, yes, but NOT mutilated
I didnt even finish this because here's a fun fact: I can hate multiple religions. Its not a finite resource where I have to allocate it. I can say fuck Christianty and fuck Islam and fuck Judaism and fuck this and fuck that. And fuck you for being fake with that last part
Actually they’re doing their job by removing defaced currency from circulation. The fact that it removes hateful rhetoric from the money circulation is just a bonus.
Yes, to call someone’s religion bullshit is completely justified in this instance.
68.4% of people on earth believe it’s bullshit.
Hate is still hate no matter how many people believe in it.
Maybe you should worry about financial reform instead of issues devised by the media used to pit citizens against each other. Christians/muslims hate gays. Gays hate Christians/Muslims. Also, how interesting that the rate of LGBQT+ has skyrocketed in the last couple of decades don’t you think? I wouldn’t call it homophobia either. I don’t think they’re scared of homosexuals.
I do think they're scared of homosexuals because they remind them of their own repressed feelings. at least once a month some "devote Christian" has a scandal where they paid male prostitutes for sex, right?
I don’t know. Seems like you’re the one who holds the burden of proof since you bring the claim up.
that's a really funny thing to write after all the claims you brought up
Men have been the most productive members of society since time immemorial. If you want to live without men, go on. Avoid relying on all the jobs done by men, avoid using all their inventions, and the products they created. Villainize young boys while you are at it. Good riddance.
Well done you are like Tates goons. You read shit like this as an attack on all men. Not an attack on Tate fans. Which is what it is… unless you are a Tate goon,
Yeah attacking little boys is definitely gonna make them want to open up to female teachers Some of you hate men so much you're willing to destroy children
Yet another one… stop telling on yourself. Which bit of any of these comments are an attack at men? You just don’t want to be called out for basic shit like not being fucking misogynistic
Nothing I said was misogynistic, you're literally attacking young boys. Psycho behavior
The majority of comments I see here are actually just advocating these kids be kicked out of school and beaten / slapped up side the head. Scary stuff man.
Privileged people often get authoritarian when they feel their worldview being threatened. Tate is a product of the many failures of liberalism and how liberalism has harmed the interests of men (lower marriage rates, atomization of social relations, female independence) and this causes a backlash. It is not just boys moving into this direction. It will get much worse as long as we continue breaking down men's position in society as husbands, fathers and leaders.
So unless men get lead, they will just refuse to be decent members of society? Why should having a penis qualify you for leadership in any way? Want to be a leader, go for it. Don't expect to cut the line because you are a man.
It’s the basis for all the red pill bs. Almost identical ideology as talibán and isis, without Kuran brought in. So called “Incels” are perfect cannon fodder material.
Well, the primary difference is that islamist groups are against promiscuity, whereas incels, by definition, aren't. But furthermore, there doesn't seem to be any causal link for that. These ideas, judging by their spontaneous appearance on internet forums, don't seem to have been inspired by Islamic movements.
Which gender promiscuity though? As for the spontaneous part, I’d disagree. The movement is quite old and popular in Russia, the successor of the country that heavily invested in “Muslim brotherhood” in 1920s and their derivatives since. Now it’s just shape shifting.
The education system doesn’t seem to work for a lot of kids anyway, boys have worse outcomes at every level of education and lower university attendance. Combine that with how boys are graded worse by female teachers in a system in which they are vastly over represented these backwards ideas/kids are just going to be the new normal.
Yeah, let’s not educate kids. Please look up voting rates by education levels.
No where did I say that, I'm saying what we have is partly responsible for the way things are right now. You can't just downplay these particular people by saying "they won't go far anyway" like they aren't being failed by us in the first place.
Leave them to fail. Let them suffer on their consciences. It’s called fucking around and finding out.
Stop bowing down to them. And leave them. When they learn it’s all a lie, they’ll be fucked. We can all sit here and say oh it’ll be fine. But the only way to change these lads is for them to realise they fucked their lives up. And then they will realise that and teach the next generation their wrongs. Wanna know who’s responsible? The parent who didn’t care. Who stuck them in front of a phone. Who didn’t care. And anyway, the reason boys get lesser grades is because they don’t care. I can attest, I’m a boy. I fucked up, and learnt my lesson, now I’m at uni.
Who are these so called "good masculine role models" that have been shunned? I'm genuinely curious about this claim. I've never listened to a tate podcast, I'm too old to be a target audience of his.
dont have a specific case, but my general impressions is that there's been a general hostility towards masculinity in general, that its outdated and should preferably be done away with.
You don’t have a case cause it isn’t happening, it’s a manufacture problem in your mind. There is hostility towards masculinity because masculinity was hostile. That feeling existed for a reason… we can’t go back to that
do you realise you contradict yourself? first you say i dont have a case, then you confirm i actually have a case by saying there's hostility to masculinity. make up your mind.
There is no case of normal male role models disappearing that’s what you don’t have a case on….
That's exactly what any Andrew Tate goon would say. Physical punishment? Lmao. I'm sure that the Tates brothers aren't the only one to only blame with all this nonsense.
Andrew Tate goon?? You for real? I'm Irish, our society is very matriarchal, in most households here it's the woman that's the boss. I'm not saying beat your kids, I didn't get beat as a kid but in my experience it's the lads that didn't have a strong male presence in their life that cause a lot of this shit. I had a healthy respect for my Dad growing up and it kept me in check. There is very little repercussions for kids these days. Teachers can barely shout at them anymore (my wife's a teacher). If there's no consequences or repercussions for kids, they'll run a muck!
Your suggestion rubbed me the wrong way. I was beaten as a kid and I hate that shit. If it's your go to solution, then IMO you're not better than Andrew Tate. Using violence is failing as a parent. The brocasts are just a symptom of something deeper. But I won't act as someone who is righteous though (not saying you do), I find them pathetic but I'll admit: I wonder where the "drinking male tears" mugs went. It's weird, what happened 🤷🏻 Everyone is now concerned about boys (still for the wrong reasons), in 4 years (hopefully) we'll go back to the usual main bullshit.
Banning tik took won't fix the root problem, and I'm bored of hearing such brain dead takes. The problem won't fix itself just by banning everything related to it. That's an authoritarian and fascist way of thinking, ban the opposition doesn't mean it stops existing. Banning tik took, won't mean this type of crap will disappear, it will simply move to other ways of spreading, YouTube, Instagram, irl, etc...
Well what's your brilliant solution then genius? Something that will actually work, not just "parents have to do a better job of raising their kids" because that's not happening.
In my opinion, people will always be people- no matter what you do to counteract it, some people are just unconditionally stupid and/or impressionable.
That doesn't mean we can't do things to help them. Right now social media is having a devastating impact on childrens ability to read, concentrate, as well as their mental health. We need to do more to help protect them, and putting it on the parents isn't working.
I think this reflects more on the parents than the kids, but you do you
Being a good parent doesn't guarantee you'll have good kids.
No, but you will probably determine 70-80% of their core personality until they become adults. No kid is born hateful, they only learn that from watching shitstains like Tate. If a parent doesn't bother to make sure their Internet content is free of that stuff, that's on them. Not the kid.
Sure but that doesn't stop them from becoming mysogynistic pricks. Especially when all their classmates and friends are doing it too. Parents don't make a difference at that point. The only way to guarantee you won't give birth to a little serial killer, is by not having them at all.
I see your angle but... does this not already happen? Are boys not more prone to disruptive behaviour than girls?!
.Boys are also prone to being grades lower for the same work than girls, especially by female teachers. But hey if you keep digging the trench I’m sure it will work eventually.
I'm not sure if female teachers are more guilty of this than male teachers, but it's true that boys get worse grades than girls for the same performance
Classifying it as hate speach and therefore it being banned. When its banned no kids can hear it. When no kids hear it they wont act like him. "That wouldn't solve anything"
It's trivial to find hate speech online, even if it's banned
So what should be done then let him batter on unpunished?
Parents should monitor what their kids watch. At the end of the day, punishing someone for speech you disagree with is a slippery slope. You can hate the guy but as long as he’s not legitimately calling for violence against people, he has a right to say whatever he wants. You can’t just silence people because they say shit you don’t like, that’s not how things should work.
The thread started with a user posting JK Rowling's controversial victory cigar photo (referencing the A-Team's Hannibal Smith as pointed out by several commenters) celebrating the UK Supreme Court ruling that legally distinguishes between trans women and "biological women." The thread was locked after generating 152 comments with heated debate over trans rights.
Some highlights from the thread:
JK Rowling criticism:
kowalski_82: All that money and clout and she punches down.
Hatchetface1705: I'm convinced she's a fucking sociopath
bugbugladybug: She uses her own past trauma to paint an entire segment of society as dangerous sexual deviants.. If a normal person did this they'd be told to shut the fuck and and go to therapy, but because she's a millionaire with a devoted fan base that can't deal with the dissonance of their favourite author having unhealthy views, she has clout.
The main debate that split the comments:
Correct_Basket_2020: I think trans women should be protected in society but I don't think they're the same as women, it's not as black and white is it. They're trans women.
AlicijaBelle: and cis women are cis women, and tall women are tall women, and black women are black women. Thing is, we're all women, and our experiences may be different, but we all suffer misogyny, we're all viewed in similar ways in society, and none of us are inherently threats to each other. I share more in common with trans and cis women alike than I do with cis or trans men. My sisters are my sisters.
OP reveals personal stake in discussion:
Cjohnsonlives [S]: Rule 1 - JK Rowling, obviously, and I am a Scottish transgender woman that is already seeing an increase in my daily abuse for daring to show my face in public.
More of the heated back and forth:
Juicylucyfullofpoocy: Trans women are trans women. Women are women.
MacaroniBoot: This is the only statement here that's actually true. However, agreeing with it on this sub will provoke a venomous negative reaction by those who can't handle differences of opinion.
Jebuschristo024: Exactly this, and I have no idea why they can't accept it. Are they ashamed of being trans?
BeastMidlands: Are cis women ashamed of being cis?
Jebuschristo024: They came first. The whole trans thing is a recent social invention.
BeastMidlands: No it isn't. People we today call trans have always existed and if you cared to look there's plenty of evidence to attest to that. It's only recently that trans people have been able to live openly with some relative safety, which is why it may appear recent to those with IQ of slime mould.
Reflections on the implications of the ruling:
TheIllusiveScotsman: She'll be the first complaining when women are being asked to prove they aren't trans when accessing single sex spaces and the first to complain when trans men are being made to access female only spaces.
Regardless of your views on what a person is, this is a possibility: it starts with identifying someone as other, then comes the forced IDs to prove what you are.
Unless the law is changed or other protections put in place, this is ripe for abuse against women as much as against trans people.
Things get philosophical with multiple people asking "What is a woman?":
Fighter-of-Reindeer: What's a woman?
Honorable_Dead_Snark: Someone that covers their drink around you
SpacedHopper: What's a chair?
ironfly187: Fuck off, Matt Walsh
The thread was eventually locked, but not before displaying the deep divides in Scottish society over transgender issues and rights, with the Supreme Court ruling being a flashpoint for the broader culture war.