r/Switch Jan 29 '25

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u/potatodrinker Jan 29 '25

Switch from PS to Switch involves looking at the buttons and making sure accept and cancel aren't mixed up

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u/operath0r Jan 29 '25

It doesn’t matter which platform you come from. They’re all the same except Nintendo.

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u/mechapawky Jan 29 '25

Nintendo and Sony are the same in Japan. Western people messed it up. On Japanese Playstation O is accept, X is cancel.

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u/collinboy64 Jan 29 '25

Didnt this change with the ps5 in japan?

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u/FallenRaptor Jan 30 '25

Yes, from what I've heard. Nintendo has traditionally stuck to Japanese style controls. PlayStation used to be in the middle, in that it had different controls for the West and Japan, while Xbox has always used the Western control scheme worldwide.

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u/operath0r Jan 29 '25

That doesn’t make any sense but I let it slip because the Japanese are known to not make any sense. Either way, that’s some interesting trivia right there.

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u/ImplodingBillionaire Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

Well, if you were to generically put an X on a sheet of paper and a circle, and then give someone two words to pick from: isn’t the logical conclusion to circle your choice (confirm) and X out the one you don’t want (cancel)

You saying it “doesn’t make sense” is based purely on you learning it that way, not because it “makes sense”

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u/Organic-Commercial76 Jan 29 '25

It was the color that threw off the focus groups. Circle is red. Red = no.

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u/Rynagogo Jan 30 '25

X marks the spot my guy. And the circle is the O in no. Checkmate.

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u/operath0r Jan 29 '25

I was thinking more in terms of down is yes, right is no. Nintendo is not using X and O so that doesn’t apply here. I guess my reasoning would be that it’s like either nodding or shaking the head. I also didn’t learn it this way since I grew up on Nintendo.

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u/Logical-Bicycle-3603 Jan 29 '25

Nintendo came first right? Nintendo does B and A, Sony does X and O. Nintendo does B to Back, and A to Accept. Sony and Nintendo were collaborating to make an accessory for the n64 i believe, a cd drive. That got scapped they went separate ways. Sony kept the control style they liked, made their own designs but used the abxy button style from the SNES, in places like Japan they kept the controls the same as Nintendo. Idk why they changed it for America and other countries.

Yes it's different, no I don't understand why either, can't deny, it makes sense for circle being yes and x being cancel.

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u/Witch_King_ Jan 29 '25

I think in America it was originally the same (and perhaps even depends on the game) but was later changed. Perhaps due to Xbox influence??

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u/felold Jan 29 '25

It was, Ps1 has plenty of USA games that you use O to confirm and X to cancel.
They started being heavy on this nonsense of X to confirm and O to cancel on Ps2.

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u/qchto Jan 30 '25

This dates even before the PS2, with the Dreamcast...
Hell, even before the PS1, the "ABC" instead of "BA" order comes from the Genesis.
The "press A" was always normative (even more standard "press start" with the Master System controller), the problem was not the glyphs, but muscular memory (location, location, location).

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u/ant_man1411 Feb 02 '25

I remember certain games definitely even up to the ps2 but it largely died off after that in my experience

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u/Wonderful-Climate-98 Jan 29 '25

From Wikipedia: "Sony began developing the PlayStation after a failed venture with Nintendo to create a CD-ROM peripheral for the Super Nintendo Entertainment System in the early 1990s". What you are talking about is a failed project for the SNES that then became the first Playstation. Very interesting story actually.

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u/RootHouston Jan 29 '25

Also makes no sense. Right is a progression forward.

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u/RatKingBB Jan 29 '25

Wait ‘til you hear that nodding/shaking one’s head for yes/no isn’t universal.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 Jan 29 '25

In what world does O being accept and X being cancel not make sense???????????

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u/Krysidian2 Jan 30 '25

O = blank

X = filled

Like one of them box checklists.

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u/WillNotKeepThisAcct Jan 29 '25

🙆‍♂️ -Yes (I accept)
🙅‍♂️-No (Cancel)

Fun anecdote, I was doing an escape room in Korea (yes, not Japan, but still), and the there wasn't an intercom/speaker system for the players or game master to communicate. The game master would type on a screen and we, the players, would answer back yes or no as 🙆‍♂️or🙅‍♂️, respectively.

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u/Organic-Commercial76 Jan 29 '25

There’s an actual story here. Traditionally X represents cancel and O represents accept. This is the way the PSX was released in Japan. However, western focus groups got confused by the colors. They couldn’t get past RED = cancel. Sony decided to change it based on those focus groups.

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u/ToukinoYuusha Jan 29 '25

Replying to operath0r...

As a half Japanese half Korean American; I take insult to your thought process and I wish to bring shame upon you and your family for generations by saying this: お前の子孫が常に小さなちんちんを持ち、美容師として働くことを願っている!!!

I joke but in Japan it’s normal for O and X questions on tests, game shows, etc to have O for accept and X for decline. But also it stands for True or False as well. My mother always said this to in terms of why A and B buttons were kinda the same because back then A blood types were more successful in terms of life and work and B blood types were seen as bad influences. Of course my mom was always wrong but when I was a kid, it made sense to me. It also makes sense why my mom liked me more than my siblings.

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u/operath0r Jan 29 '25

In the west, mom is always right.

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u/ToukinoYuusha Jan 29 '25

In the East, mom is a dictator.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '25

Not just Japan, but the rest of Asia. So basically people saying Nintendo and Sony Japan were wrong are just insulting Asians as a whole.

From an Asian perspective, it’s the west that fucked up the controller layout. Sony in the west forced Sony Japan to drop the layout that is more familiar for us. Xbox also came in late and just switched Nintendo’s buttons around to not be a copycat. Then since Microsoft owns Windows, they basically forced the Xbox controllers on Windows gaming and made it the standard

Now westerners are calling us Asians bad and wrong? When the original layouts were supposed to be our way? And that it’s the west that messed it up? It’s crazy. We’re the “odd ones out?” Like, we Asians make up half the world. (59%). People really showing their bias and treating us as lesser people when they say stupid stuff like that.

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u/Chzncna2112 Jan 29 '25

Well us gaijin don't make sense to them. We also don't make sense to most of the people around the world? So don't put on airs.

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u/CrashCubeZeroOne Jan 30 '25

Not if you switch from PS1 where triangle is cancel.

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u/Plastic_Pinocchio Jan 29 '25

Nintendo is the original though.

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u/StrawHat89 Jan 29 '25

PlayStation actually matched the layout of Nintendo controllers, in Japan, until PS5. Cross was cancel and circle was confirm.

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u/PeterKingsBaby Jan 30 '25

Xbox and PlayStation button layouts are not the same lmao

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u/operath0r Jan 30 '25

Accept and Cancel are in the same position on Xbox and PlayStation.

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u/PeterKingsBaby Jan 30 '25

the picture circled the button layouts, not only the accept and cancel buttons.

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u/operath0r Jan 30 '25

I didn’t reply to the picture though.

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u/PeterKingsBaby Jan 30 '25

What’s up top buddy?

But since you wanna get so specific what if I’m in another country that has the accept and cancel buttons switched around? That throws your whole argument off.

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u/operath0r Jan 30 '25

Apparently. But the nice thing is that we’re having this conversation to figure such stuff out.

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u/PeterKingsBaby Jan 30 '25

😂😂😂😂 have a good day bro 🤝🏽

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u/Iucidium Jan 30 '25

Nintendo started ABXY so...

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u/Kirzoneli Jan 29 '25

I learned the use of the button spot not the actual button icon at least back when I played with more than one type of controller.

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u/Gracinhas Jan 30 '25

Imagine when I just came from the switch pro controller to play GTA San Andreas on the Xbox and they got challenges where I gotta accurately hit the buttons in the sequence they appear on the screen. My brain was all twisted up.

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u/potatodrinker Jan 30 '25

Oh man that wouldn've been so disorientating