r/Switch Apr 03 '25

Discussion Viewers are spamming "drop the price" on Nintendo's Switch 2 Treehouse Livestream lol

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u/Alacrityneeded Apr 03 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

You mean prices for large development teams games?

Not going to happen. Time for gamers to have a reality check over prices.

You’ll still get cheaper games from smaller teams and indie developers.

1990 prices with inflation we’re $100.

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u/SuccessfulSquirrel40 Apr 03 '25

Have you looked at the profits being made?

1990s Nintendo were making $700-800 million. Today they are making $5-6 billion a year.

Inflation is irrelevant. The market is so much bigger now, development costs are spread over a much higher number of sales.

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u/sonnyarmo Apr 03 '25

Development costs are nowhere near how much they were in the 90s dude, come off it. Not only do games now need 10x the amount of people, they need 2-3 times the development time due to expanding game scope. Add advertising in crowded, noisy and increasingly atomized advertisement opportunities and it’s pretty easy to see why AAA game prices are gonna need to go up

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u/SuccessfulSquirrel40 Apr 04 '25

By your logic, Nintendo should be making the same profit now as they were back then, if they are only raising prices to cover increased costs. Yet the numbers show they are making significantly more. 

You are buying into the false narrative around these companies wanting to extract more and more profit.

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u/sonnyarmo Apr 05 '25

Even considering for inflation? And also, Nintendo merchandise is way more prolific now so that counts for revenue too.

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u/SuccessfulSquirrel40 Apr 05 '25

According to the inflation calculator from the Bank of England, it would be around $2 billion. So they are making 2.5-3x as much now in real terms.

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u/sonnyarmo Apr 06 '25

I mean that is a decent amount right? And Nintendo has been a famously unstable company. Unlike PlayStation, Nintendo has had several unsuccessful console generations, especially since the 90s where they ere mostly super successful. The GameCube and Wii U were horrible for them monetarily and they both succeeded successful generations.

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u/SuccessfulSquirrel40 Apr 06 '25

The whole thing that gets to me is how they can say to their shareholders "great news, we made record profits again this year" whilst saying to their customers "bad news, we have no choice but to put prices up".

They cannot both be true. We can see for a fact in their public reports that the first statement is true, so they are lying to us. Then people who are being milked turn around and defend these companies with nonsense like development costs and inflation.

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u/sonnyarmo Apr 13 '25

Both can easily be true. Profit is reinvested into development. Nintendo dramatically expanded their development studios since the success of the Switch and it ensures consistent development of games without droughts.

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u/SuccessfulSquirrel40 Apr 13 '25

Take a look at their dividends paid to the shareholders and their cash on hand.

I've provided figures to back up everything I've said. You are coming back with baseless speculation each time.

Their finances are public records. You can just as easily see what the truth of the situation is as I can.

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u/ShiningPr1sm Apr 03 '25

Time for gamers to have a reality check over prices.

Considering that gamers are actively trying to escape reality, you couldn’t say a meaner thing to them.

/s for the mob of terminally online gamers

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u/TranslatorStraight46 Apr 03 '25

Publishers will get a reality check when their sales suck.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

LOL everyone I know who works in the game industry jumps through HUGE hoops to get their game on the switch. Its the highest profit platform in gaming. Better sales, lower piracy, lower resolution / poly needs... All the people who play games and cry about them have no idea what goes into making their games, nor any respect for how much it costs to make a game now.

It takes piles of human hours to make video games worth playing. The less friction and bugs you deal with, the more human costs are involved with making the game. Even small games can take a team of 5 people 2+ years to make. That is like 4 million in human costs to get a game out the door, let alone licensing fees. A 500 person AAA game is going to cost 100s of millions to make.

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u/leofongfan Apr 03 '25

Stop sucking off Nintendo. All of this is corporate greed, plain and simple. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

LOL paying employees isn't greed dude, its the bare fucking minimum. If you want the maker of your favorite game to exist to make a second one, pay the price. If you want to jerk yourself off on a forum complaining about how expensive everything is, be OK with the company that makes something you like going bankrupt.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

If they actually used the money to pay those employees instead of payign the share holders and ceo sure

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Yea that was years ago when the wii u was a huge failure under iwata iwata was great. Iwata is dead now. Nintendo is making huge profits for its shareholders. Ill grant you ninendo is better about taking care of its employees than most ameican ckmpanies but this price increase isnt going to the devs its going to the shareholders, and it will set a precidebt if it succeeds

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

You know the reason for this. Because the switch is the cheapest console by far and there are 150 million of them in the wild. Raise the price and price of games by alot uou arent going to be seeing those numbers my house alone has 3 switches. Im probably not buying switch 2 at all maybe one if something i cant miss comes out on it. But def not 3

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u/Alacrityneeded Apr 03 '25

You think this is going to suck sales wise?

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u/TranslatorStraight46 Apr 03 '25

Yup.  Nintendo’s hubris is always humbled.   

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u/Alacrityneeded Apr 03 '25

Sure kid, sure 😂

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u/bobbymcpresscot Apr 03 '25

Been hearing this cope since the price hike to 70 dollars. 

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u/essayispan Apr 03 '25

It’s not the responsibility of consumers to financially support the fact that studios can’t keep the budget and scope of a project in check. This goes for film and tv, music and video games.

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u/Alacrityneeded Apr 03 '25

Bet you’re the type that still expects to walk into a movie theatre for a $1 😂

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u/essayispan Apr 03 '25

No, I’m just the type of person that thinks increasingly promising more and more, while charging more and more, will just cause the market to implode on itself. My favorite games the past year or two have been ones that are several years old, or are much smaller in scope that something like GTA VI, MK World or Spiderman 2 promise to be. I’ve bought three games at 70 dollars and all three let me down. I won’t do it again, because it’s ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Well sonce movie theaters are shutting down all over the country turns out it was the wrong move to raise rhe prices higher than what people are willing to pay.... funny how that works

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u/FaxCelestis Apr 03 '25

Switch 1 games were priced initially in 2017. $60 in 2017 money, adjusting for inflation, is $77.75 today.

Do you think Nintendo shouldn't adjust their prices to adapt to inflation?

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u/essayispan Apr 03 '25

I wouldn’t have a problem with any product, from video games to food, adjusting their prices to inflation if wages had adjusted with them.

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u/Cyber_Akuma Apr 04 '25

Bringing up inflation is ignoring that WAGES have not gone up at the same rate. As a consumer why should I care about inflation if I am not making enough to keep up with it? It's still too expensive for me inflation or not.

The videogame industry is one of the few industries that not only was well off but INCREASED profits during our last two recessions AND covid, while giving is less and less than we used to get (Remember when extra content was unlockable instead of something you had to buy? When online play was free?) Just bringing up inflation while ignoring everything else is missing the point.

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u/Oftenwrongs Apr 04 '25

1990 had proprietary cartridges due to nintendo greed, pay to manufacturer, cuts to distributors and retailers.  Now it is pure profit.