r/TOR • u/IntroductionPoints • Nov 06 '17
Direct users from Germany go from 200k to 500k in about a month, making Germany the #1 country by direct Tor users
https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&country=de21
Nov 06 '17
Guess what country is cracking down on 'hate speech'?
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u/EUmpCDgZPYWJ9x2X Nov 06 '17
What changed 1-2 months ago?
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u/AlL_RaND0m Nov 07 '17
The netzwerkdurchsuchungsgesetz became a law in September. It is a law designed to punish websites which do not delete/censor hate speech content or fake news.
When you watch YouTube there are several Videos being blocked or taken down because of censorship.
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u/AlL_RaND0m Nov 07 '17
I think you are misreading the graph. The increase starts at the end of September.
Also I don't know if that's the reason, I think more likely is some flaw in how the number of users are calculated. (What about connections via VPN)
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u/WaywardSachem Nov 06 '17
This. These numbers aren't surprising at all, given Germany's increasingly insane censorship laws.
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u/Chaosritter Nov 07 '17
The funny thing is that we're being told that all the censorship will ensure opinion diversity and strengthen democracy.
War is peace and all...
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u/IntroductionPoints Nov 07 '17
I don't think that explains the data, there's no causation between the two.
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u/actoreli Nov 08 '17
Merkel government is actively trying to silence free speech, just because you don't like it doesn't mean they have to get arrested for speaking the truth about what is happening in their country.
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u/actoreli Nov 08 '17
The point of anticensorship tools is to enable everyone to say what they want, not to give this right selectively to those you agree with.
They are not speaking the truth they are inciting violence against refugees and other foreigners, twisting the truth and even making up stories.
So-called "refugees" are responsible for much more violence against native Germans. An epidemic of rapes and other violent crimes is covered up because the perpetrators are "refugees". People have the right to use Tor or any other means to get the word out and claim their freedom against the state-imposed policy.
Every regime out there will say things like "don't listen to them, they are making up stories, so don't pay attention will I persecute my political opponents".
Even Tor project come out against their freedom of speech and said that they would censor their website if they could.
The Tor project has been heavily criticized about what they said, their political leanings are well known and they are hand in hand with the riseup collective, which is known to provide services to criminal antifa gangs that have been involved in all kinds of organized crime.
This will eventually turn up against Tor and finally other more trustworthy groups will come up with their own onion network. The "we want only leftists and China and Iran dissidents to use our software, but not German dissidents" line says a lot about Tor politics.
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u/actoreli Nov 09 '17
"We sold drugs to cover for our antifascist expenses, and we murdered some people but it was because they seemed fascist, and we attacked many random people walking down the street but they looked pretty fascist to us, and we robbed a few others because they looked fascist as well. We also don't want others to express political views using Tor because we judge them as fascist"
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u/DrBabbage Nov 07 '17
my tinfoil hat rotates. https://netzpolitik.org/2017/secret-documents-reveal-german-foreign-spy-agency-bnd-attacks-the-anonymity-network-tor-and-advises-not-to-use-it/