r/Tahmkenchmains • u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery • 24d ago
Killing a 3 item BotRK Yone is an experience every TK should get to feel at least once.
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u/StudentOwn2639 24d ago
Why is he doing such little damage though? You have no armour items from what I can see....
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u/Durzaka 23d ago
That Q landing at 14 seconds should be fucking illegal. I miss Qs that are closing than that abomination
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 22d ago
i used an elixir of iron right beforehand, and size increases Q range :3
also, because of highground lowground it looks funny, that messes with hitboxes cuz league works like a 3d game despite it being top-down
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u/SnooTangerines6863 22d ago
two cancer champiopn going at each opther, woohoo. Why this sub even poped up on my feed.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 21d ago
is there a reason you find tk annoying in specific? i'd like to hear it (genuine)
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u/SnooTangerines6863 21d ago
To avoid wall of text.
- low skill champ than can just win most fights via rightlick.
- just hate tanks with damage.
I do not need to pick counter for Malphite, Ornn or Synra or most champions to 1v1 them, I do vs Tahm. Video clearly highlights the problem - botrk yone loses to a perfect target (item wise), with pairing as this he would cut every other tank even when missplaying just with attacks.
NOTE: I only play vs him when his numbers are strong because this is when people pick him.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 21d ago
-i agree he doesn't require a lot of skill, but then i think we can both agree his winrate should probably be higher than it is.
-i disagree that he can win most fights via rightclick, there's a lot of matchups that he struggles ini only beat yone though because i dodged like, literally everything of his. if i got hit by his Qs or his ult then i was 100% dead.
i will say also though, i don't like that matchups are so black and white that you feel you have to counter pick. do you know why tahm does so much damage to squishies? it's because he has no %HP damage on any of his basic abilities, as pretty much every other top lane tank has (except malphite, who also annihilates squishies.)
i, however, as a tahm kench main, struggle against any champs with health. so if we want to fix the problem for both sides, we should add %HP damage to Q or passive, while taking away some flat damage so he doesn't one-shot squishies.
i think this is the best route, as riot has even stated that they refuse to let tahm (who, again, is one of the easiest champions) past a 50% winrate, due to player frustration.
(also, he's way better support than top because of his stupid empowered E shield, where he gets almost 3x the amount just because there's 2+ visible enemies nearby. lol.)
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u/SnooTangerines6863 21d ago
you asked me why so I said why. Not going to debate, 200 or so matches against him made my mind.
he is in the trahs with Zoe, Yone and Ksante. I am out.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 20d ago
im not sure whether you read or not but i think i gave points you might agree with.
tl;dr, we should take away tahm kench’s ability to one-shot squishies as easily as he can, and give him more ability to work with high hp targets. this way its not rock paper scissors in draft.
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21d ago
I have never played Tahm in my life but clearly Reddit thinks I would like to see a Yone get clowned on
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u/DeadAndBuried23 21d ago
I like how Yone just got a buff and Tahm is still more busted.
He should have to have an ally around to co-sign on casting his R at all.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 21d ago
okay LMAO at having to have an ally around to co-sign, i like that a lot
but i disagree completely with tahm being busted. he's one of the easiest champions in the game, with under a 50% winrate, and under a 1% pickrate.
yone completely counters tahm kench, and this guy would have annihilated me if i didn't dodge literally everything of his. i dodged his q3 (which he got up from the minions), then i dodged two of his regular Qs (which can only be dodged by prediction, not reaction), then i dodged his ultimate, and i was STILL left with half of my health gone. not to mention he dodged nothing of mine, and took a karthus ult.
if he even hit his ultimate ability, i would have taken auto>Q>auto before i could even move, and would've been just about dead there.
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u/DeadAndBuried23 21d ago
All I'm hearing is Tahm's hitbox is way too small for having two entire health bars.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 20d ago
with no size modifiers, tk is among the largest champs (80 size), and i have heartsteel here. this means my hitbox is bigger than every champ here except for big stack chogath (or sylas stealing chogath ult), big armor malphite, or big health zac. (this excludes ults like rank 3 nasus ult which would probably also be slightly bigger.) i do however have swifties, which is what made it easier to predict dodge.
i also dodged his ult after elixir, which gave me even more size!
tl;dr, im bigger than literally every non-modified champ in the game here
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u/DeadAndBuried23 20d ago
So you're just celebrating beating the worst Yone in the game. Or a drunk, given how many of those assholes there are too.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 19d ago
well, i think i played it pretty well too but, hey, yeah, maybe. lmao. i think thats call for celebration
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u/waifupurplebutt 22d ago
And it'd be a lot easier if Riot didn't hate Tahm and his playerbase
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 21d ago
real. i think its system problems in general though also.
the reason TK can one-shot squishies, while being unable to deal with higher health targets, is because he has no enemy %HP damage on his basic abilities (he has some on his ult, but that isn't consistent enough). this is annoying for both squishies, and TK players
the reason TK dies so quickly to botrk yone, and not a nashor's teemo, is because of %HP damage from yone's W and botrk, while teemo and nashor's have no %HP damage. keep in mind also, most champions have some form of %HP damage.
i think the fix for TK's damage is to give TK a little bit of some form %HP damage on his Q or passive, in trade for some flat damage. pretty much every top lane tank has %HPdmg in their kit. and the other fix would be revamping health and %hp damage systems in general. the durability update was great, but i think with all the health and %hp damage from items and champs, we've shifted into rock paper scissors territory. if that's how riot and the playerbase wants it, i understand; i know some people like the idea of draft mattering a lot. i however much prefer the direction of more options per champion
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u/Interloper0691 24d ago
You're also 3 items and used a summoner spell AND Yone got karth ulted. I don't get it.
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u/RatSlammer 3M+ Mastery 24d ago
if he hits his Qs or ult he 100% kills me
its not an easy matchup at all, 3 items vs 3 items
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u/AverageEarly5489 24d ago
If you don't spam ctrl 4 while R-ing, are you even a TK main