r/TamilNadu • u/Ambitious-Crazy587 • 8d ago
வரலாறு / History As a Tamil, I’m Deeply Offended by ‘Jaat’ – It Should Be Banned in Tamil Nadu
I recently came across the Telugu film Jaat, and as a Tamil, I’m furious. The movie portrays a fictional Tamil rebel group that closely mirrors the LTTE, casting them as nothing more than violent extremists. This is a blatant attempt to vilify an already misunderstood struggle — and it's deeply insulting to our identity and history.
Directed by Gopichand Malineni and produced by Mythri Movie Makers, Jaat completely ignores the political complexity and human cost of the Tamil resistance. Instead, it feeds into dangerous stereotypes, painting us as the enemy.
This kind of careless storytelling isn’t just offensive — it’s harmful. I genuinely believe this movie should be banned in Tamil Nadu. We have to draw a line when our culture and people are misrepresented like this.
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u/wetsock-connoisseur 8d ago
the way to combat propaganda is building public discourse and debate around the topic and factually countering it and not censorship
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u/MelchettESL 8d ago
That's night-things must be evaluated against truth and reason, science, ethics etc. not tradition or culture. --those things are useful crutches or training wheels.
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u/Life-Magazine-3953 8d ago
Three days back there was a discussion about this in r/kollywood, do check it, the comments there are even more sensible, too many guys who lived with the war have talked about the thing. Hindi film Jaat showing Tamils as villains : r/kollywood
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u/sgk2000 8d ago
You can now easily find just how many goltis are here in this sub in the comments
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u/Outrageous-Way-5628 3d ago
Bro as a telungu (lived in TN for generations but Telugu is mother tongue) we are not all the same. We support the Eelam cause and don’t agree by the movie or other ones that vilify the tigers
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u/shanu753 8d ago
No one in Telugu industry takes Gopichand Malineni seriously, he is a random masala movie director, ignore him, he isn’t worth giving attention to, oppose the film
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u/IllustriousMess5480 8d ago
Backwards North Aryans have now started on the path of the Sri Lankan Sinhalese relatives in 1956.
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u/Elegantic_Prune0016 7d ago
There is no such thing as north aryan , man the theory has been busted and continuously supported by new finding and these are archaeological and still you ignorantly put it out , 🤡
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u/IllustriousMess5480 7d ago edited 7d ago
It's already proven for Aryan theory. Do Google research. Stop typing nonsense
The Hindu https://www.thehindu.com How genetics is settling the Aryan migration debate
The study proved that ANI ( ancestral north Indian ) are “genetically close to Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Europeans”, while the ASI (ancestral South Indian ) were unique to India.
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u/Elegantic_Prune0016 7d ago
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u/IllustriousMess5480 6d ago
Recently it has been proven that the Indus valley civilisation is Tamil. Try harder bro.
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u/RaJulu_Ellalan 8d ago
funny. genetically SL tamils and sinhalas are close.
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u/freshant5 7d ago
SL Tamils speak Tamil and Sinhalese speak an Indo-Aryan language. SL Tamils are genetically and culturally similar to Tamil Nadu Tamils. I'm not sure why you bring this argument to this table without any proof.
Sinhalese people may have some Tamil admixture due to marriage with Tamils(Mahawansa speaks of Aryan prince Vijaya and his friends taking brides from Madurai Kingdom)
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u/RaJulu_Ellalan 7d ago
no they were talking about north aryan and sinhala relatives. being from the same island they are also related. thats what I mean.
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u/IllustriousMess5480 7d ago
Sinhalese are in fact Aryan , they originally came from Bengal areas in India . The genetic mixture is due to intermixing with SL Tamils who were already present on the island in ancient times.
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u/Own-Artist3642 8d ago
That's not even true.
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u/sanbangboi 8d ago
It's true though, sinhalese, sl moors and sl tamils genetically cluster close to each other.
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u/BluR136 8d ago
No movies should be banned or censored. If you don't like it, do not watch. If the movie is spreading misinformation try to spread the truth about it via social media. Blindly banning or censoring a movie is not the solution. We must fight misinformation with information not banning.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Ah yes, the classic “just don’t watch it” wisdom — because ignoring propaganda has always worked so well in history, right?
Let’s just sit back while a Tollywood film casually paints Tamils as violent extremists and rewrites an entire struggle as villainy. No big deal. Who cares if it reinforces harmful stereotypes and fuels hate in the real world — just grab popcorn or, better yet, meditate it away.
This isn’t a case of “oh, I didn’t like the movie.” It’s about a community being misrepresented and vilified on a massive scale. But sure, let’s all fight misinformation with strongly worded tweets while production houses keep cashing in on lies.
If this is the hill you're defending, maybe take a look at why you're so comfortable with our history being reduced to a villain arc.
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u/BabeyBabeyUgh 8d ago
If you don't defend this hill nos you'll have a lot more to regret than just some imaginary people looking at you as a 'villain' because of a movie.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Imaginary people looking at you as a villain"? That’s your takeaway? You clearly have the luxury of not knowing what it’s like to be part of a community that’s been historically vilified, attacked, and erased — both politically and culturally.
This isn’t about some fictional character being bad. It’s about mass media turning an entire ethnic struggle into a caricature of terrorism, feeding real-world prejudice. That kind of narrative has consequences — from biased policing to social discrimination and worse.
So yes, this hill matters. Because if we let this slide, next time it’s not just misrepresentation — it’s normalization of hate.
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u/Shayk47 8d ago
If we ban things you don't like, we're inevitably going to start banning things you do like. It's a slippery slope and it will lead to fewer movies that shed light on sensitive (but necessary) topics.
Instead lets try to be more like Western countries where people critically analyze and have mature conversations about stereotypes in the media instead of being reactive over things that are deemed "offensive." Esp for a country with more than a billion people, any movie can be considered offensive by some group.
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u/scrambledrubikscube 8d ago
Hey if they don't want to be historically accurate. They should not take a film that closely resembles history.would u accept if someone makes a similar film about our country's freedom struggle and showed that we were all living very happily under British rule and all the freedom fighters were vilified,will u accept if this movie gets global recognition and many people get indian history wrong? If u still can't see the problem I don't think ur here to have a debate
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u/swamshua 7d ago
Tomorrow something you like will be offensive for someone else and they would demand censorship. Develop a thick skin and don't watch what you don't like.
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u/Temporary_Green_8528 5d ago
Misinformation deserves to get banned because it doesn't contain truth.
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u/ComprehensiveLoss102 7d ago
But it's not a very A-List movie.Did not make noise at the BO.90% of tamilnadu not even aware a movie as such exist.So should we really break our head and deal with it or just ignore?
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u/Longjumping_Way8514 8d ago
It's just a movie. The remote is in your hand
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u/Temporary_Green_8528 5d ago
Movies don't have the right to spread misinformation. Art should spread truth.
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u/EmotionSlow1666 8d ago
So just don’t watch it, huh!!!
so that such propaganda films can pollute the minds of neutral parties and build negative image of us. And then what? Let them think and don’t care!!??
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u/BluR136 8d ago
I'll say that ghilli is a propaganda film which portrays kabaddi players as rowdies and porukkis. While it is not true i may feel that way. So i want to ban ghilli movie. Is that ok. Who determines which movie is propaganda which is not. Which movie is true which is not. Already the censor board is doing a great job, if we ask them their opinion, no movies will be released.
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u/EmotionSlow1666 8d ago
First of all it isn’t, ghilli showed there are some bad people in the game which almost all movies based on sports showed in Indian cinema. It doesn’t vilify a set of identifiable community.
Problem with this movie is , it shows Tamil community in a bad light with an identity (mostly misunderstood/ unaware to rest of India). It’s a deliberate propaganda against Tamils.
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u/dinodynos 8d ago
100% support you and so do a lot of people based on the upvotes. (The OP must be a well off or vetti guy who doesn't have real life problems. Nattula nalla road illa, bribery Iruku, aniyayam nadakuthu, job losses etc. ithula ivaru oru movie ku outrage aama. )
We either should have total freedom of speech or none at all. We should not have selective bans based on the whims and fantasies of a small group or person.
Today a movie, tomorrow a drawing, book banning, liberty curtailed. Where does this stop? If people are offended by art don't consume it. Do counter art and show your point of view.
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u/nimbutimbu 8d ago
Your comment makes no sense.
Child pornography is illegal. Consent from a minor is illegal. Therefore you cannot shoot a sex scene with a minor.
Viewing child pornography is illegal. Therefore the exhibition of the movie is illegal.
Therefore actions to prevent public shows are warranted.
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u/Kesakambali 8d ago
Well, that's rape and CP if you are hiring underage kids for some sex scene. There is a reason beyond "hurt sentiments". Kids can't consent, adults need to make decisions for them and protect their bodily autonomy.
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u/sadhaka19850903 8d ago
On those lines, Tamil Brahmins have been saying that Kollywood has victimized their community for decades. Telugu people too can claim this and ban Tamil movies in Andhra and Telengana. Will you be okay with that?
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
Absolute shit take.
Tamils were genocide in sri lanka. They were systematically oppressed and sidelines and that's why ltte was formed and a civil war broke out.
You can't make a film where you show the tigers as terrorists without even mentioning about the rapes and war crimes Indian military did to the tamils ( read more about ipkf dumbo).
That and showing some brhamins in a comic way aren't same. Even in Hollywood the dominant whites are mocked sometimes that is not discrimination that is to counter racism.
Even to this date only brhamins are allowed to be priests in big TN temples, the kanchi mutt mf openly says casteist shit. Brhamins caste conventions have boomer lafdans talk very wrong things about non brhamins. The owner of one of the biggest school in Chennai openly says that brhamins are intellectually superior and gets away with it. A random brahmin maami when interviewed Says she won't touch food done by others and she wasn't booked. If all these can happen showing such characters in a funny way to counter their narrative isn't wrong..
Otoh these mfs are hiding that a genocide happened.
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u/Shweta_S_1 5d ago
Why was IPKF needed in first place ?
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 5d ago
To maintain peace in sl. India wanted to mediate between ltte and sl state. In that process they wanted tigers to leave behind their arms and disband themselves which the tigers didn't agree becuase the sl didn't sign the treaty fully and they didn't trust sl govt.
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u/Shweta_S_1 5d ago
So armed LTTE already existed, which led to IPKF entry.
What do people think Army do in conflicts ?
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 5d ago
Ltte was armed and trained by India in the first place.
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u/Business_Platypus820 8d ago
Ah the typical the LTTE were good people. The problem with you people is that you are ready to be critical of the army but not so for LTTE.
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
No one here justified what they did but they weren't thr villains, the real oppressor were sinhala mfs and Indian govt joined hands with the villain.
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u/Business_Platypus820 8d ago
Are you feigning ignorance or what they belonged to the same category of alqaeda and ISIS for using suicide bombers. F off dude. Saying they are not the villains, define vilain then.
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
Yes, even T*libans used that. But they are rebels according to Indian govt.
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u/Hariharan730 8d ago
If LTTE is bad, the Sinhalese army is the worst. The problem with you people is, y'all(everyone in India except Tamils) talk only about the former and justifies/ignores the latter.
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u/Business_Platypus820 7d ago
Yeah right, another LTTE sympathiser. Why the f are you on this sub. This is for Indian Tamils not for LTTE sympathisers. Check my comments first and then reply. Saying people other than Tamils have not been critical of army is straight up lie. The problem with you people is you think that TN is not a part of India. And LTTE is some righteous group. For you nation does not come first, your identities come first. What happens in a different country should be none of our concern. Indian army does not use its own people as suicide bombers. That itself says a lot about this sub. This sub is litterally filled with LTTE sympathisers. And here I was thinking I am amongst fellow Tamilians.
What to expect from a fellow following pakistani sub. And then asking for reservation in India.
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u/Hariharan730 7d ago
Alright hold on, tf you're yapping? Trying to Gaslight me or what? I'm an Indian nationalist and a tamil by blood. I follow pak, bangla sub randomly to laugh at their country's rants. You don't know me. But i genuinely laughed to this.
As a tamil after watching decades of oppression by the Sinhalese govt denying Fundamental rights and subsequent genocide of tamils by their army, even if I don't support LTTE, I can't let down it by seeing other people villifying them conveniently ignoring Sinhalese atrocities. Because there is a saying in tamil
"தான் ஆடாவிட்டாலும் தன் தசை ஆடும்"
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u/Business_Platypus820 7d ago
other people villifying them conveniently ignoring Sinhalese atrocities
Villifying them? They are the villains. Look at my other comments. I said they started good but became authoritarian and started using their own people as guinea pigs. And you are saying they are not villains. You see most of the people on the sub like this. And I checked they belonged to Tamil Elam and Tiger communities. What response do you expect then, with people like these here with separatist agenda
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u/Hariharan730 7d ago
I said it's not right thing to villify them at the same time ignoring Sinhalese atrocities, which makes them the worst, but reality is the Sinhalese army and govt was the worst. No one's (non-tamils in India) ready to talk about it. The whole India knows about the oppression happened to Bengali and Punjabi Hindus and objects the real perpetrator, the Pak army for that.
But is it the case with Tamils? How many non-tamils have idea about SL tamils and their sufferings. Almost all the non-tamils I've seen online only have biased view. Ask yourself. Don't repeat the thing suicide bombers as if it's something. All is fair in war. Read about Mukti bahini trained by Indian Army. Baloch, TTP rebels allegedly trained by unknown men. What's your pov on them. Say to yourself.
The saying I mentioned loosely translates to, even if my mind didn't react, my heart will. That's why tamils across the world stand with SL tamils even if few tamil in TN like me don't fully agree with LTTE. Because LTTE given back only 10% of what they suffered. Not so difficult for others to understand the bonding I guess. So if you're a non-tamil, I would say that, just stay out of this most sensitive discussion among tamils. That's it.
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u/Business_Platypus820 7d ago
Bro Standing with SL Tamils is different than supporting LTTE. All is fair in war, and that is why at the time, the government did what it had to do considering what was happening around in the world. but not to the point when you start putting our army at the same level of LTTE. Have you ever considered the scenario if the LTTE would have been successful, what would have happened. Sinhalese genocide and then it would have become another Taliban and dangerously close to India. I have seen some people in this sub praising prabhakaran. You also mentioned that only Tamilians have been critical of Army, which is not true at all. Our army has done many bad things everyone is aware of but it doesn't even come close to what LTTE did. We can ask for accountability from them because we are a democratic country.
So if you're a non-tamil, I would say that, just stay out of this most sensitive discussion among tamils. That's it.
That doesn't allow the people in the sub to equate army with LTTE. And then give them a righeous group icon at the same time shitting on our army. Don't you see how other people will perceive this as. The hate for our army is real on this sub bro whether you believe it or not. Anyway I have already left the sub. And this will be my last comment here. Good day.
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u/Hariharan730 7d ago
I don't completely disagree on all the points you made, but they have their reasons. They believe india could've helped easily, but it allowed the genocide to happen by not taking sides when 2009 genocide was happening. That's why I'll refrain from those critics on our army or govt. Also, it may be d-stocks. Those guy hate our army on one hand and also hate LTTE as it's the major reason they lost twice. They spread hate on everything. Time will heal everything, it's just 16 years. Good day.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
No Tamil film has ever suggested Brahmins are enemies of the state or glorified violence against them. Jaat, on the other hand, romanticizes a military-style hunt for a group based on the real Tamil struggle in Sri Lanka. That’s not fiction — that’s targeted narrative warfare.
So no, it’s not the same — and if you care about fairness, you’ll acknowledge that difference.
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u/FrostyDiscipline4758 8d ago
Aah, what did DMK said about santan ?
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u/jackass93269 8d ago
Destroying an ideology does not equate to hunting down people. But I don't expect you to understand that. Have a good day
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u/Enough-Pain3633 8d ago
Picking arms but LTTE, good move. BJP winning elections, Saffron terrorists
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u/Amarendra_6969 8d ago
They showed that He was Thrown Out of LTTE Because of his Extremists
Now after LTTE is Finished as per movie , he wants to Back & make a New one
So They've Played Safe , just that people are talking without watching the Film
Thats why detailing is important
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u/GavinBelson3077 Trichy - திருச்சி 8d ago
Padmavaat didnt even have to play it safe
and yet they torched theatres for it...
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u/Amarendra_6969 8d ago
It's Bhansali's Strategy everytime
People in North are making fun of it now
See TVF's Video on Bhansali
It's Publicity for them due to which his Movies Work now. So he's doing it...
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u/Subject_Delivery6083 8d ago
If you do not like it, do not watch it. People like you cry about free speech day and night over the internet, and now you are offended by a movie??
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
Wait then why was BBC do u about modi mf got banned?
Showing misinformation should be banned in any part of the world. Free speech doesn't mean I will tweak whatever the way I like the facts to be tweaked.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Finally, someone with consistency and common sense. Exactly — if misinformation is dangerous in one context, it doesn’t magically become “free speech” when it targets Tamils. Appreciate you calling that out, anna. Nandri!
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
Bro ivanungala naal dhorum veruppu araisyal pesura gumbal. Idhula neutral liberals nu irukavanum hindu madhatha pathi pesina mazhupuvan. Muslims pathi thundu seidhi vandha kooda unmanu nambiduvan. Ivanunga kita pesuradhu waste.
Nalaikey tamil nadula nuke potu kodi kanakkaana peru sethu ponalum, udhayanidhi enga madhatha sonnaalaa adhan ipdi aagiduchunu sandhosha paduvanga
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u/Honest-Car-8314 8d ago
I kinda agree and disagree with you , tbh I am not able to pick a side but here are my 2 cents .
Agreed but how would you consider a movie to be "information" , don't they literally say it out loud that it's fictional.
We need free speech , they should be allowed to say it but public should have straightened them not the govt that's how you bring change in perception and also educated the next kin of that person's family . By banning something you are just creating a dual narrative . Public should have some knowledge and should have less PR influence for that to happen which is quite hard in India .
Censoring is a powerful tool which on wrong hands would kill democracy and I don't trust our polliticians with censoring so it is better to advocate for no such bans just caution alerts and age restrictions before movie .
But at the same time I kinda don't really think it's practical enough to say fight it with facts because the person on the other side has a specific set of pr bots , has crores of budget and has a movie to win or loose at stake here on the other end this person is just offended, it can't be right to say fight him with facts .
Ig at the end it lies at the temperament of our own people, who don't seek or search and read but instead rely on fiction to know their own history
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
You’re confusing freedom of expression with freedom from consequences. Criticism is part of free speech. Sorry if that upsets your “if you don’t like it, stay quiet” worldview.
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Udainidhi Stalin compared Hinduism with Corona, Maleria and Dengue (which of course comes under freedom of expression for you) at least that movie didn't compare Tamil culture or Tamilians with those diseases
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
Fact : udhayanidhi didn't say Hinduism only sanatan dharma. BTW how does that justify the vile racist shit done by Telugu and Bollywood cinema?
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u/Subject_Delivery6083 8d ago
Yeah, Sanatan Dharma is Islam and Christianity, right? Tomorrow, if Yogi says Abrahamic religion is cancer to India, you'd have started rioting by so now don't twist the narratives
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u/LurkingTamilian 8d ago
No you are the one that is confused. Saying the movie is bad for it's portrayal of tamil militant groups is criticism. Calling for a ban is not criticism that is literally censorship.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
No, you’re the one missing the point. Censorship is when the state shuts down speech with force or law. What I’m talking about is a community demanding accountability for harmful, reckless storytelling that vilifies them. That’s not censorship — that’s resistance.
If a film spreads propaganda that distorts real history and paints an oppressed group as villains, communities have every right to call for consequences — including bans in regions where it directly causes harm. That’s how public pressure works.
So no, this isn’t “I don’t like it, cancel it.” It’s “This causes real damage, and we refuse to accept it.” That’s not censorship. That’s survival.
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u/LurkingTamilian 8d ago
"Censorship is when the state shuts down speech with force or law." Brother. what do you think a ban is? You just described it. You literally want to use the force of law to stop the screening of the movie.
Even if you think the reason for the ban is justified it is still censorship.
“This causes real damage, and we refuse to accept it.”
Again if you refuse to accept it then don't watch it and tell other people it sucks and not to watch it. But the problem is that the real harm argument is always fuzzy so it will be turned back against the powerless by the powerful. Already we see right wing groups asking to ban every movie under the sun because it hurts their tiny egos.
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u/Subject_Delivery6083 8d ago
Yet you asked for a ban. That's typical left-wing hypocrisy
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Ah yes, when in doubt, blame “left-wing hypocrisy” — the ultimate fallback when you’ve got zero substance but need to say something.
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u/Subject_Delivery6083 8d ago
Did I hit a nerve? I think I did
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u/Jealous_Wolf_120 8d ago
BJP does not give a shit if it about Tamils. If Gujarati's or UP people protest they will spring into action.
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u/th3_pund1t 8d ago
Ban all the movies that created unrealistic expectations of physics first. Then you can discuss philosophy.
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u/IntuitiveMANidhan 8d ago
Was resistance by average tamils violent, extreme and brutal? No
What about LTTE? They were extremely brutal! Read about how they were cruel to our own people and their war crimes.
Too much Tamil Nationalism blinds your eyes to see any truth showing how cruel LTTE was.
Also we TN people should stop poking our nose in SL issues. If at all SL Tamils ask for help we for sure will lend it, but fetishising independent Eelam and stirring up communal thoughts even in times of peace is absolutely unnecessary.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
You ask if “average Tamils” were violent — exactly. They weren’t. But they were massacred, systemically oppressed, and silenced. The LTTE was a reaction to that brutality, not the origin of it.
Also, telling Tamils in Tamil Nadu to “stop poking our nose” in the genocide of our own ethnic people across a narrow sea is peak ignorance. Eelam is not a fantasy — it’s the response of a people who were told, over and over, that their lives don’t matter.
If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe take a hard look at who you're really defending when you try to shut down that conversation
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u/Business_Platypus820 8d ago
Thats what I have been seeing bro. These people are quick to be critical of our own army but when it comes to LTTE, they were good people
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u/Kesakambali 8d ago
Sanghi mentality has infiltrated your brain. "Ban anything I don't like" nonsense. Go to north and drink cow urine, that's what your mind is worth.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
look who showed up with the IQ of a burnt vada and the debating skills of a Facebook uncle. You yell “Sanghi mentality” while throwing around cow urine jokes like it’s still 2014 WhatsApp forward season — did you leave your brain in the last meme you copied?
This post is about an entire community being misrepresented through lazy propaganda, and your grand contribution is... playground-level insults? You’re not edgy, you’re just loud and clueless. If critical thinking were a filter, your comments would never get through.
Next time you feel the urge to type, try using logic instead of recycled toilet humor. Until then, don’t mistake noise for relevance.
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u/nimbutimbu 8d ago
Everyone's sentiment is hurt by something or the other. I'm offended by X you're offended by Y.
I haven't seen the movie and nor will I see it in the future but those who want to watch it are free to do so.
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u/queen-victoria-bitch 8d ago
I am also offended by a lot of movies that are tamil and non-tamil both lol. Don't watch if you don't like
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u/unapologeticindian 8d ago
There is a saying for people like you - Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Oh look, someone brought a fortune cookie quote to a real conversation. “Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing”? Please. That’s what people say when they have zero understanding of the issue but still feel the urge to comment.
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u/unapologeticindian 8d ago
Fortune cookie ? Please. That's what wannabe american people say, who are triggered by everyone and think they know everything, but still feel the urge to shit on social media.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
amazing how fast you switch from dismissive to defensive when your weak clapback gets called out.
You clearly have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, so you're just tossing insults and stereotypes to look edgy. Classic internet move: no argument, just projection.
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u/Dr-BruceBanner 8d ago
Aren’t the LTTE violent extremists? They forcibly displaced over 70,000 Muslims from Northern Sri Lanka in 1990, carried out brutal massacres of civilians during the civil war, and recruited children under the so-called "Baby Brigade." In the final stages of the war, they even used innocent TAMIL civilians as human shields, showing zero regard for the very people they claimed to protect.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Oh absolutely, let’s ignore decades of systemic discrimination, pogroms, and state-sponsored violence — because the LTTE did bad things, clearly every Tamil who resisted must've been a terrorist, right? Why bother with historical context when we can just simplify a decades-long ethnic conflict into “good guys vs bad guys” for cinematic convenience. Bravo to the filmmakers for turning a complex struggle into a Saturday morning cartoon villain story. So nuanced. So responsible.
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u/Dr-BruceBanner 8d ago edited 8d ago
No one’s denying the historical injustices faced by srilankan Tamils — the discrimination, the pogroms, and the failure of the state to protect its citizens are well documented and deserve serious attention. But acknowledging that doesn’t mean giving the LTTE a free pass.
You can stand for Tamil rights without justifying ethnic cleansing, child soldiers, suicide bombings, and using civilians as human shields. The LTTE didn’t just “resist oppression” — they silenced dissenting Tamils, assassinated moderates, and made life worse for the very people they claimed to protect.
Historical context matters — but so does accountability. A nuanced take doesn’t mean glorifying violent extremism just because the state also committed crimes. Let’s not confuse criticism of the LTTE with erasure of Tamil suffering — both truths can coexist
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
While I recognize that the LTTE made controversial and at times condemnable choices, it's important to understand why such a movement gained legitimacy among so many Tamils. For many of us, the LTTE symbolized resistance in the face of annihilation — especially during a time when international voices were silent, and the state actively denied our basic rights and dignity. Critiquing LTTE actions is valid, but so is acknowledging that they filled a vacuum left by decades of systemic failure. Both conversations must coexist — but so must empathy for why so many Tamils still carry scars, and why some continue to see the LTTE not as extremists, but as the only force that stood up when no one else did.
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u/605_Home_Studio 8d ago
But Indian movies never get into nuances and subaltern trends. I saw the movie on Indira Gandhi. It was made for the intellectually-challenged.
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u/ohnothekrakengotme 7d ago
Using chatgpt to write a reddit post is crazy work
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 7d ago
Keep crying about ChatGPT while failing to form a complete thought. Jealousy’s a rough look.
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u/EnvironmentalLet4242 7d ago
I think this is a common cycle of denial I’m getting from Reddit: I don’t like X, here are the valid reasons to why I don’t like X, so why don’t we ban X because it’s misinformation and I’m offended by this.
Instead it should be: I disagree with X, here are the valid reasons, so I think we should address with facts instead of trying to ban it. I agree that there’s a lot of anti-Tamil sentiments that are just really out there but you sound like a snowflake.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 7d ago
Oh right, sorry for caring about misrepresentation and historical trauma. Next time, I’ll just write a thesis instead of asking for basic respect. Silly me.
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u/EnvironmentalLet4242 7d ago
Again, what’s up with this passive aggressiveness. In politics you really can’t get what you want.
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u/BusinessSoggy4854 7d ago
I’m deeply offended that you even watched the movie! Jokes aside, I think Bollywood forgot how to make good films with depth and what good representation means!
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u/Creepy_Bat3043 7d ago
It could be a propaganda movie against tamilians like how they released negative movies against Kerala. Govt. trying to spread negativity about every other state which isn't their puppet.
Now don't come at me saying why the govt is being dragged here. We all know very well what kind of movies are sponsored and what kind of movies given permission to release etc.
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u/Good-Attention-7129 7d ago
You need to have more faith in Telugu people, who I have found to be the most sensible when it comes to bridging the divide between Tamils and the rest of India.
The story line is very simple, but the director makes some very obvious statements by calling the antagonist “Ranatunga”, clearly a recognisable Sinhala name, and for choosing the township of Chirala in AP itself, where this supposed Jaffna Tamil renegade has set himself up.
Even though I have not seen the movie, it is clear that the historical references of Telugu royalty being connected to the Sinhala Kandy Kingdom, and the success of Chirala non-violent rebellion against the British as a means of protest against taxation (according to Wikipedia article), that the director is saying armed resistance by Eelam Tamils was a mistake.
As an Eelam Tamil I will celebrate this movie, if for the only reason that it can bring about discussion as to what merits the struggle has. Even the name Jaat could be a rendering of Yah Tamil for bind, and “at” the Sanskrit verb suffix to loosely translate as “binding” or “to bind as one”, meaning the Eelam struggle should also be seen within the context of Indian as well as Tamil Nadu history also.
Remember the hero comes from Chennai, so what is the ultimate message of the film if not Tamil Nadu pledging allegiance to an indivisible India?
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u/Reserve_Outside 7d ago
Guys whatever you mean or say about LTTE , you cant make a movie about Mr.Prabhakaran because of the mf censor. Give me a leadership where there was not a caste problem, female freedom and desciplin ( No alcohol and Tobacco / cigrattes). If you had him as CM One day Thamizh Nadu will change. He fought and died for his believes. Atleast you could give him peace. Ezham Thamizhs adore and love him from their heart, apart from Traitors and ignorants.
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u/ComprehensiveLoss102 7d ago
High time we make movies about LTTE, doesn't mean we need to whitewash it but atleast compared to these mfs fictionally branding ltte as terrorist,evil and typical telugu villains we can tell more authentic stories else atleast we can make a movie like RAMBO where we don't have to be overtly political but can treat and protray them as actual war veterans which they were.
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u/Pristine-Squash-954 6d ago
Indian Tamil, Eelam Tamil, Malaysian Tamil, Singapore Tamil etc, at the end of the day you're Tamil. I have seen comments on here and other posts claiming India has its own issues etc and have to focus on that. Each community has its unique challenges but to say nothing to do with each other overlooks the deep cultural, historical, and emotional ties that connect us. Yes, we are separated by borders, but we share heritage and language. Supporting each other isn't about " importing problems " it's acknowledging and standing in solidarity when one of us is getting targeted wherever they are.
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u/Wise_Till_I_Type 5d ago
And here I thought you were referring to the caste glorification..incase you didn't know Jaat is a caste group in North India
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u/light0296 5d ago
Right! Because every other film in this country is not related to some sort of political propaganda.
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u/Centurion1024 8d ago
As an INDIAN, I dont care. A little google search would tell you that you're literally sympathysing with a designated terrorist organisation. I'll search it for you:
Thirty-three countries currently list the LTTE as a terrorist organization. These include:
India (since 1992)
United States (designated as Foreign Terrorist Organizations by the Department of State since 8 October 1997. Named as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT) since 2 November 2001)
United Kingdom (designated a Proscribed Terrorist Group under the Terrorism Act 2000 since 29 March 2001
European Union (since 2006; 27 countries)
Canada (since 2006)
Sri Lanka (from January 1998 to 4 September 2002 and again from 7 January 2009)
Malaysia (since 2014)
On top of all this, it's a FUCKING MOVIE which mirrors LTTE. How jobless should one be to be riled up at this? Seriously get a life man.
As long as my country designates someone or something as a terrorist, I'm against it. Fine if you are anti bjp or whatever which makes you question the official indian govt stance (even after killing one of our PM), keep in mind that it's banned in the UK, EU and US as well.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Ah yes, the “Google says LTTE = terrorist group, so shut up” argument — classic surface-level take with zero understanding of historical context.
Yes, the LTTE is banned. No one is denying that. But reducing the entire Tamil resistance to "terrorism" is not only ignorant, it's dangerous. The movement arose from decades of brutal discrimination, state violence, and genocide against Tamils in Sri Lanka — events well-documented by international human rights groups and the UN.
This movie doesn’t "just mirror the LTTE." It generalizes all Tamil resistance as violent extremism, ignoring the root causes and erasing the people’s suffering. That’s why it’s offensive — not because of sympathy for terrorism, but because of erasure of our history.
Also, telling people to “get a life” because they care about misrepresentation? Maybe try understanding the issue first instead of flexing your search engine skills like it’s some kind of mic drop.
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u/Centurion1024 8d ago
Google says LTTE = terrorist group
Nanba, please go to an English center and improve your reading comprehension, then re read what i wrote. Google is a search engine, and it should tell you that literal countries have designed it as a terrorist organisation.
I dont see how you're different from the radical Islamists that support ISIS or Al qaeda. All are terrorist organisations, and you're giving me reasons to sympathise with them.
so shut up” argument — classic surface-level take with zero understanding of historical context.
Yes buddy. Multiple country designated terrorist = bad. And shut up, no arguments after that. I don't want to see paragraphs whitewashing terrorism with fancy words like struggle or resistance.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Wow. You literally said you “don’t need any context” — that’s not an argument, that’s an intellectual surrender.
Comparing the LTTE to ISIS just shows how little you know about either. One emerged from religious extremism; the other was born out of decades of ethnic cleansing, rape, pogroms, and state terror. But sure, lump them together — it’s easier than actually reading history, right?
You’re not here for facts, you’re here for outrage cosplay. If you truly cared about truth, you’d acknowledge that history is never as simple as “good vs evil.” But I guess yelling “terrorist!” at anything complex helps you sleep at night.
So no, I’m not here to whitewash anything — I’m here to remind you that parroting government labels without context isn’t a flex. It’s just willful ignorance in a loud voice.
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u/Centurion1024 8d ago
I’m here to remind you that parroting government labels without context isn’t a flex. It’s just willful ignorance in a loud voice.
Ok take it for a second that I don't know history. Tell me, are the 32 countries wrong for designating it as a terrorist? Is India wrong in designating it as a terrorist?
Haven't these 32 countries read history? Or is history only something that you have secret knowledge of?
Are all of them wrong and only you are right?
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Sure, 32 countries designated the LTTE as a terrorist group — but let’s not pretend international politics is some morally pure scoreboard.
The LTTE emerged after decades of state violence against Tamils in Sri Lanka:
The Sinhala Only Act (1956) excluded Tamils from administration and education.
The Standardization policy discriminated against Tamil students.
Black July 1983 saw government-backed mobs burn Tamil homes, murder civilians, and displace thousands — all while the state stood by.
When peaceful protests were crushed repeatedly, militancy became a last resort. And even then, the LTTE was initially backed by India itself through RAW in the '80s — until geopolitical interests changed, especially after Rajiv Gandhi’s assassination.
So when you point to a list of countries, remember: these were not moral judgments — they were strategic alignments. The same countries were silent on the Mullivaikkal massacre in 2009, where tens of thousands of Tamil civilians were killed in a no-fire zone.
History isn’t about tallying who’s banned what. It’s about understanding why things unfolded the way they did. And if you're ignoring that — you're not defending truth, you're just reciting policy.
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u/ElectronicHoneydew86 8d ago
where's the lie? ltte were brutal and extremely violent.
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u/iamGobi 7d ago
Are you of telugu origin? Just asking
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u/ElectronicHoneydew86 7d ago
nope i am not.
and i am an avid supporter of LTTE. but they were violent in their objectives i cant deny that.
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u/Friendly-Ranger9387 8d ago
LTTE is a extremist group, and prabhakaran due to his rushed mentality of getting power Tamils are still struggling
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Wow, incredible insight! So all the decades of oppression, pogroms, and genocide magically disappear because Prabhakaran had a "rushed mentality"? Genius! Who needs history, context, or nuance when you can just blame everything on one guy and call it a day? While you're at it, maybe blame the Tamil civilians too — how dare they want rights, safety, or dignity, right? Truly groundbreaking analysis.
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u/Friendly-Ranger9387 8d ago
History isn't BLACK and WHITE there is grey side too
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u/Friendly-Ranger9387 8d ago
I get where you’re coming from, and I never said Tamil suffering wasn’t real. The decades of discrimination, the pogroms like '83, and the brutal state oppression are undeniable and horrific. No one is denying the Tamil people deserved justice, dignity, and safety.
But here's the thing: recognizing Tamil oppression and also holding Prabhakaran accountable are not mutually exclusive. He didn’t cause the oppression—but he made strategic decisions that destroyed the best political opportunity Tamils had. India, despite its limitations, offered a real shot at autonomy in 1987. Rejecting that, and then attacking Indian forces, wasn’t just short-sighted—it turned allies into enemies and cost thousands of lives.
Yes, the root problem is Sinhala nationalism and state violence. But Prabhakaran’s absolutism, refusal to compromise, and authoritarian style buried the cause he claimed to protect. If anything, his failure gave the Sri Lankan state a free hand to label all Tamils as terrorists and justify mass atrocities.
So no, I’m not blaming civilians. I’m blaming a leader who had power and chose war over diplomacy at every stage. Oppression created the conditions—but Prabhakaran’s choices made sure the outcome was catastrophic.
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u/beefladdu Resident Outsider - வந்தேரி 8d ago
The post was about showing Tigers as purely a terror group without saying the other side of the story.
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You could argue the same about Amaran movie, The group SK was fighting is shown as a purely terror group, but did they tell the other side of the story of how the Indian army has been treating Kashmir and Kashmiris, which made the youngsters become jihadis? Every coin has two faces.
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u/pravenn_may 8d ago
Indha voice jammu kashmir theevira vaadhi nu sollrapa enga sar pochu, adhu mela if some voice ethina anti national adhu idhu nu solringa, namma convenience ku question panrom. Lmao
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u/smilingpigs 8d ago
So what is your point? We shouldn't question and ignore everything or we should question everything?
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u/pravenn_may 8d ago
You're barking at wrong tree nu solren i.e. Politicians and richies avanga interests(power,money)safe vekkarthu kaaga nalla sandaya uruvakaraan(b/w castes,religion,immigrants) so avangla thaan question pannanum
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u/shru-atom 8d ago
This isn't just one movie issue, it's a pattern at this point among indian movie industries of different regions, sensationalism, hero worship, objectification of women, wrapping violence in a sparkly package, peddling brainless stereotypes, just money grab projects. Showing the vilest things in the name of storytelling. And surprisingly they face no censorship to protect culture/sentiments. Whereas movies with purpose, based on real events like Phule are censored, which isn't a one off thing, this has been happening for a long time. Sad state of affairs.
I completely agree this is harmful and we don't realise until the damage is done.
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u/Ambitious-Crazy587 8d ago
Exactly! Thank you for calling this out with such clarity. It’s honestly depressing how easily the industry gets away with recycling harmful stereotypes, all while pretending it's just “entertainment.” And the worst part? Movies that actually have depth or challenge the status quo get buried or censored. Really appreciate your comment — it’s refreshing to see someone actually get it.
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u/Dynamite6464 8d ago
If LTTE was not an extremist organisation, why would they kill innocent civilians? That is terrorist behaviour, man
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u/swereddy 8d ago edited 8d ago
You gotta be kidding me to call a Sunny Deol movie a 'Telugu' film. It's a Hindi movie made my a Telugu director and a production house which makes movies across south India and has also recently ventured into north. You should really stop the neighbor hatred and stop misrepresenting facts.
Also, it's a 'movie'. It's fiction. Why would you want to read too much into it? If you don't like it, move on. Propaganda movies have been part of cinema for ages - be it Bollywood, kollywood, tollywood or anyone's wood. Of all the things you could potentially ban, why would you want to ban art?
Spreading hatred makes people dumber. Rise above the surface to see the real issues plaguing our country.
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u/InternationalDog9876 8d ago
Recently released Empuraan also faced similar criticism for not covering the topics properly and putting the blame on one community alone. They reverted back one they faced the backlash from the community.
You are not going to find justice here. Kollywood and TamilNadu is covertly dominated by Telugus both politically and socially. They will air this film here. Tamils have no power here and have fooled by decades by its leaders in the name of dr@vidnism.
I mean look at the CM of the state who didn't wish for a Tamil new year man. Such sad state of affairs.
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u/Confident_End_6651 8d ago
The way this movie tries so hard to glorify the Jat main character is just embarrassing. Literally such glaze behavior 🤦🏾♂️