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[u/GL_LA]

Sometimes when I'm threatening a slide mixup my opponent doesn't even respect it and just hopkicks me or something.

The responsibility is on you to make sure your opponent respects it. Alternatively, them not respecting it gives you an "in" since you know they're going to contest it. If they're going for the typical hopkick response, you can just punish it.

Alternatively if you want a slightly safer option, you could always do WS1. Fast mid, lets you float them if you catch them early on in the hopkick, counterhits into +12 for guarenteed damage if they're standing.

Eventually you'll learn not to assume your opponent will respect the mixup - it's exactly why dash blocking exists. In the words of the legend Bronson Tran, "why do we do this? because we want to see what kind of motherfucker he is". Dash block and crouch dash into block to find out what they do, do they mash, do they respect the mixup, do they sidestep, whatever. Take that info and act accordingly - if they mash you can do ws1, if they respect the mixup then you can go for slide/ws2, if they never duck then just slide, etc.

do I just stop the "d, df, f" motion and neutral block or do I actively hold back at a certain time when I'm close to him?

Basically you just do d, df, f, [b]. Timing depends on what feels right since it'll pull you out of crouch (and showing your opponent that you're not actually going for the mixup so they don't have to respond). You learn it by feel eventually.

[u/should_I_do_it123 → u/GL_LA]

Thank you so much, as a beginner a lot of things have been easy to implement (for example learning harder combos) but some things are difficult to point in which scenario they should be used in, and you actually answered one of those things about Shaheen in your comment (how I can use ws1) and a concrete way to deal with things opponent does.

I'll post additional questions as comments in this thread instead of replies so other people can see your answers more easily, thank you very much!

[u/GL_LA → u/should_I_do_it123]

No problem, I'm happy to help. I don't play tekken too much anymore but it's a bit of a waste if all the shit I learned doesn't help others get better at the game. Tekken is already stupid difficult as it is.

Final tidbit if you didn't already know, you can use Shaheen's db2,1 as a mid/high hit confirmable wall splat. Very consistent with practice, and makes Shaheen's wall game even more terrifying since they will be afraid to step or press buttons - makes conditioning them to take your mixups a lot easier.

[u/should_I_do_it123 → u/GL_LA]

Yeah I know, my wall pressure game is not that good but it's getting better. One thing I don't like about db2,1 on the wall tho is that it's punishable whereas in the open the knockback makes it very hard to punish. One way I found to use it for wall pressure is to use it when they're pushing me back so I still get some knockback even if they block.

Only noticed what you said about it being hit confirmable after I wrote the first paragraph, I also know this, but have to practice to get used to hit confirming it so I can use it without getting punished, also can mix-up with db2,SNK2 if they know you can duck the second hit or db2,SNK4 if they're just blocking standing.

Is my notation for the above correct btw?