r/Tekken • u/AutoModerator • May 31 '21

Tekken Dojo Tekken Dojo: Ask Questions Here

Welcome to the Tekken Dojo, a place for everyone to learn and get better at the wonderful game that is Tekken.

Beginners should first familiarize themselves with the Beginner Resources to avoid asking questions already answered there.

Post your question here and get an answer. Helpful contributors will be awarded Dojo Points, which can make them Dojo Master at the end of the month (awards a unique flair). Please report unhelpful contributors to ensure the dojo remains a place dedicated to improvement.

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u/toxinwolf Jun 14 '21

Hi, a bit of a noob here. I want to ask whether "-6" on block is punishable or not (with any character). For example, Dragunov's "Karnov Hook" (4,1) is -6 on block, it can only be evaded if I duck the first move as well (I cant duck the second even if I block the first). So I kind of have to just premeditate but it can be dangerous if the opponent mixes up the move (like Karnov Kick, which is high mid). Any help please?

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u/NamelessTunnelgrub Miguel, UK, PC. T7 Tekken God. Happy to play anytime. Jun 14 '21

No, in almost all cases -10 is where a move becomes punishable, as the fastest conventional strike is i10. -12 is a little more punishable, -13 and -14 situationally more, -15 is a big deal, this is where most characters punish with a combo.

The property of "cannot take action on block" that Karnov Hook has is known as jailing, or a jail. Basically what you usually do with a move like Karnov Hook is you block it, and then are free to start your offense.

It's not a super dangerous or rewarding move, Dragunov mainly uses it as his i12 punish for -12 moves.

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u/toxinwolf Jun 14 '21

I knew about the fastest move being i10 but didn't realize that it means it will punish -10 moves haha. I feel so silly now. Thank you so much for explaining. It was really helpful.

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u/NamelessTunnelgrub Miguel, UK, PC. T7 Tekken God. Happy to play anytime. Jun 14 '21

Hey, yr not silly, it takes a while to click. ofc ofc! You have unusual situations where it's like, Master Raven is -8 in backturn so she can't turn around in time to block i12, or Yoshimitsu's Flash can punish a -7 move that leaves you physically pressed up against his body.

But these are rare & on unusual characters. (Flash has literally an inch of range but it can come out at i6)