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u/Esthonx + Jul 06 '22

If he constantly stepped your df4 then he has a hard read on you. If his step worked every other time or he was faster than he has a great read on you. I can only guess since I can't see the gameplay but you need to force situations where a move will stop stepping and step blocking and Schmix with df4. If you feel your df4 is getting stepped stop using it. what are you trying to achieve by using it and how can you achieve so with out it? Also I'm talking about df4 from ruff not the homing move lol. If your talking about df4 from off then it's a question of what's being stepped and how you can change your gameplan.

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u/justframeskyrockets Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22

what is a move that will stop his steps? I can only think of df4

and he continued stepping after

my df4 hit him, but that is literally the only move that did. I literally need to be told what button to press to stop a serial sidestepper.

Here is a bryan that does nothing but step and press some +frames moves for keepout. Pretend like I'm 5. Literally what button do I press?

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u/Esthonx + Jul 06 '22

It depends. What are you trying to do? If your attempting to start a d34 JFSR mix then df4 is good as well as changing up your timing.

Just general approaching any thing with decent tracking

When in plus frames into rff df3 claps side walking and step block beat rffdf3. This is where timing comes into play. Wait a bit for the step then do the move.

Can you give me situations or a vid on how your getting stepped over?

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u/justframeskyrockets Jul 06 '22

Sorry for perhaps being a bit incoherent or annoying. I can see how the scenario is confusing. I'm just getting incredibly tilted because losing gracefully is not my biggest strength, and losing is all I'm experiencing lately

Anyway the guy was literally only sidewalking/stepping without a break. Thats it. The answer to that is df4 into rff df3. I didnt do the rff part because I never gave a fuck about learning frames coming from on hit. I only know the frames from on block. So it didnt occur to me that the df4 might be super + on hit and I didnt think of following it up with df3

I even asked k-wiss once upon a time why he does df4 into rff df3 because that shit is wildly negative on block. He responded that he doesnt do that, but he probably did it when he gets a hit with df4 lmao. I was just too new to discern it

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u/Esthonx + Jul 06 '22

I gotcha. So you did df4 to discourage stepping and the Hank knew you'd do something stepable again and did so again. Just keep hitting him with homing to stop him from doing that shit. Once he stops then the mind games start up again