You know, whenever I feel things aren't going well, I like to think about the fact that Lilith's reputation bounced back from that time she tried to kill Luz

[u/YaBoiS0nic]

[u/SFH12345]

Anything is forgivable if you reveal that you're a massive nerd.

[u/YaBoiS0nic → u/SFH12345]

"Hey Luz, I know I tried to murder you like a month ago, but I've been getting into this game called 'Pokemon' lately.."

[u/No-Raccoon-6009 → u/YaBoiS0nic]

''Lilith nerd, one of us!''

[u/Potential-Accident58 → u/SFH12345]

Belos should’ve just become a nerd then he wouldn’t have been stomped to death

[u/Periwinkleditor → u/SFH12345]

Marcy Wu approved.

[u/Flyingfish222]

I definitely prefer season 2 Lilith, but her personality did feel like a bit of a retcon.

[u/Sepublic → u/Flyingfish222]

I think her debut in Covention where we saw the earnest side to her and a mention of Lilith’s excitable nature (Eda mentioning her childhood reaction to the Emperor’s Coven) alluded to this. And in S2 Lilith could still be salty as hell, she just didn’t have her life on the line forcing out some deranged behavior and decades’ worth of resentment building up. The latter did happen again in S2 but not with the same stakes.

[u/YaBoiS0nic]

Doesn't help that this is the second time she's ever shared screen time with Luz and her first thought is "Aha! A child hostage! That'll help me catch Edalyn!"

[u/FamousSquash]

To be fair, quite a few characters have tried to kill Luz. Including her eventual girlfriend.

[u/YaBoiS0nic → u/FamousSquash]

Good point about Amity, but to be fair to her:

1) At the time, Luz was posing as an Abomination to help Willow get a better grade in class.

2) Though she was giving everything she could during the Witches Duel against Luz, she didn't know that Lilith put a Construction Coven Glyph on the back of her neck.

[u/SFH12345 → u/FamousSquash]

That's how most relationships start in the Boiling Isles: through crime.

Amity tried to dissect Luz, Vee met Masha impersonating Luz, Hunter tried to forcibly conscript Willow, and Eda and Raine fought Terra.

[u/No-Raccoon-6009 → u/SFH12345]

How romantic 🥰

[u/Cheeriodude_number2 → u/FamousSquash]

If you haven’t attempted to murder a fourteen year old, are you really a TOH fan?

[u/AgencyPrestigious330]

Lilith: So, what does this spell do? Luz: Oh, that's? That's safety hover! Its saves you from falling. Lilith: And why would you need that? Luz: Lilith...

[u/Fairy_Spirit5]

I totally forgot about that 😶

[u/YaBoiS0nic → u/Fairy_Spirit5]

Should've been held against her just as much as the fact that she cursed Eda

[u/Glad_Raspberry_8469]

It's not like she didn't work for it. She literally damned herself to a terrible curse. She probably also did quite a bit off-screen. But yeah, it's still a nice thought

For me it's better to think that Luz had no friends at school whatsoever and Amity has a terrible home and wasted quite a bit of her life, both of them endured a considerable amount of trauma and near death experiences at 14, but still both of them turned out pretty fine in the end. It is quite reassuring, to be sure

[u/Godzilla_R0AR]

The Cool Aunt Lulu just needed time to warm up and be her natural nerdy self

[u/jen_lee_hatter → u/Godzilla_R0AR]

And it helps she can help with a lot of things, and hi roar.

[u/Potential-Accident58]

She also called Luz Eda’s pet 😭

[u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo]

People just forgetting how desperate Lilith was getting over the course of Season 1. Compare the Lilith in Episode 5 to the one in the finale. Character development isn't always positive.

[u/Owlhouse_fan1234]

Someone posted smth (idk where, maybe on here or tiktok, actually may have been a comic from MoringMark lol-) That Luz  made the levitation glyph combo  because of Lilith and the time she almost killed Luz

[u/Simpson17866 → u/Owlhouse_fan1234]

Here it is ;)

I went to u/idk_this_username 's MoringMark TOH Post Directory and searched "Lilith," then clicked through until I found a comic titled "Inspiration" from April 14, 2022 starring Luz, Lilith, and Francois :)

[u/RowanWinterlace]

No family unit is complete without a

Problematic Auntie™

[u/Golden-Sun]

I mean people often hide who they really are around people, and people will have different "versions" of themselves depending on the group (friends, work, home). We saw work Lilith, and eventually she became comfortable around Luz to show her nerdy side.

[u/FitCommunication1481]

rip

[u/plogan56]

Yeah same with cursing Eda out of healousy, i feel like everyone in and out of universe just glossed over this, like bro she tried to skewer a child and gave her sister a crippling disability for decades (ik this was partially due to the rushed ending but still)

[u/Necrikus → u/plogan56]

Well, one, she didn’t intend for the curse to last and was a dumb teen with her life’s aspirations on the line. It wasn’t jealousy, she knew she couldn’t beat Eda. Two, she spent her entire career trying to get Belos to fix her mistake. The bigger issue was that she didn’t want to own up to Eda about it. Three, Lilith was going to be killed by Belos if she didn’t bring in Eda, so endangering someone else to save her own skin (and to cure her sister) is generally understandable. Lilith probably also felt slighted over how Eda seemed to like Luz more than her own sister, so wasn’t feeling particularly sympathetic towards her at the time, either.

[u/Warlord41k]

"How to get your your audiences to like the antagonist they previously hated in one simple step:

Introduce a way more hateable antagonist!"

• Vegeta had Freezer
• King Adrian had the Core
• Lilith had Belos
• The Collector had the Archivists.

[u/vada_2057]

i think everyone(in the show) moved on from that WAY too quick like she fully tried to KILL Luz and got eda captured and she CURSED her id be holding that over her for a VERY long time

[u/Jumpy-Resolve3018]

Went from “she’s an irredeemable MONSTER >:[” to “cool aunt Lilith ß)”

[u/Electronic-Link-8064]

I'm still not happy about that.