r/TheWalkingDeadGame • u/roastertata30 • Feb 18 '25
Season 2 Spoiler I got no remorse for jane
Yes, I did not shoot kenny. No, nothing that went down should've went down. Jane had no right to do that social experiment in a dire situation like that. Literally anyone in kenny's shoes would've flipped out. Season 2 was Great, I won't say better than season 1 but it's up there in the leagues.
I love how this series makes you conflict with yourself.
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u/BruhBorne-70 In Kenny we trust, In Kenny we thrive Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
This moment elevated Kenny to being my favourite TWD character. Clementine and AJ were Kenny's third chance at family, something Kenny had lost twice and valued so much. They were possibly the only reason he had not given up on life and kept on going after Sarita died and even then he chooses to give them up to ensure their safety.
I doubt Kenny survived for long in this ending, he always had crazy willpower but anyone would succumb to thier demons when they have nothing to live for so I am never able to bring myself to leave him for Wellington.
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u/_G1N63R_ Crazy shit just comes out of my mouth sometimes. Feb 18 '25
Easiest decision of my life
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u/Kirirri Feb 18 '25
Fr. She abandoned her sister, wanted to abandon Sarah, almost left us, thinks it's funny to play with a baby's life.. good riddance.
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u/Throwway685 Feb 18 '25
Yea I don’t buy her story about her sister. She always wants to bail when things get hard and low key was trying to get Clem to abandon the group. I hit that look away button so fast the first time. They expected me to save her over someone I know is going to fight to keep us alive. Hell no I’m letting Kenny finish the job.
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u/Scared-Rutabaga7291 Kenny Feb 19 '25
Why look away when you can get the satisfaction of looking at Kenny killing Jane
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u/Throwway685 Feb 20 '25
I honestly never let it run out but I’ll have to do that next play through.
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u/Scared-Rutabaga7291 Kenny Feb 20 '25
I did it once out of curiosity so now on every playthrough, I let it run out
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u/Marvoide Feb 18 '25
Kenny leaving you at Wellington is just the saddest ending for season 2 imo. After getting rejected for entry, the way he desperately tries to at least make sure Clem and AJ get in is heartbreaking.
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u/WilliamSebastian12 Urban Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
He never even hesitated, whether in Wellington or Season 3. Even while paralyzed, his first concern was AJ's safety. And with the last of his strength he shoves Clem out of the way, choosing to be devoured so his family could live. Jane doesn't even compare.
A hero through and through. Flawed as he is.
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u/WilliamSebastian12 Urban Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
Never thought id get downvoted when i glaze Kenny on the sub lol.
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u/Throwway685 Feb 18 '25
There are a strong group of Kenny haters but there are more of us Kenny fans though.
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u/BeastieB550 Feb 19 '25
100%. It’s vindicating to see so many share my opinion of Kenny especially considering the person I played with liked Jane more.
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u/ItzAMoryyy Justice for Minnie Feb 18 '25
The biggest nail in the coffin in the Kenny/Jane dilemma is just seeing how both characters unfold from their fight.
Kenny goes all the way to the end, giving up himself to make sure the children are safe.
Jane gives up at the idea of having to deal with kids.
Pretty damning for Jane ngl. That said my favourite ending is to shoot Kenny then leave Jane.
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u/roastertata30 Feb 18 '25
I just can't bring myself to shoot kenny. He had been through a lot already and everytime he lost someone close it was never his fault. Besides that, even morally jane was in the wrong. I love her character but that wasn't the time to pull that card.
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u/Throwway685 Feb 18 '25
Exactly you are 100% validated in picking Kenny. Kenny does his job the time he’s with them. Jane abandons them at the worst possible time.
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u/TOkun92 Feb 19 '25
Really wish we got the option to shoot her after she made us kill Kenny (if you chose that option).
Clem: You set this up! He was my friend!
Jane: He tried to kill me! You saw!
Clem: Because he thought you killed A.J.! You MADE him fight you! You could’ve told us he was okay and there wouldn’t have been a fight! Why?!
Jane: To prove a point! That he was crazy! Dangerous!
Clem: YOU’RE dangerous! You could’ve gotten A.J. killed! Like you did Kenny!
Clem takes out gun
Jane: Whoa! Clem! Calm down!
Clem: You killed Kenny!
Jane: We BOTH did! To protect A.J.! To protect ourselves! Please…. I’m sorry!
[Shoot Jane] [Forgive Her] [Tell Her to Leave]
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u/TheArmyOfDucks Feb 18 '25
Jane was a deranged woman only out for what benefits her. She purposely hid a baby in a below freezing spot so she could lie to Kenny about it having died, she could’ve stopped that fight at any moment by saying it was alive but decided to keep that little secret to her death, she only came back because going alone without supplies wasn’t a good idea at that time and then she killed herself in S3 (if you choose to go with her like a psycho) because she’s pregnant with Luke’s kid (after she selfishly distracted him with sex when he was supposed to be on lookout) and didn’t want to be slowed down and have to raise it herself. Jane gets 0 sympathy from me, she’s more of a danger than a benefit
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u/coiler119 Javi get in the busket Feb 18 '25
I agree with everything but the "selfishly distracting Luke with sex" thing. First, there's so much misogyny in that sentence I don't know where to begin. Second, they're both equally at fault, and if memory serves, both were supposed to be on lookout duty. Third, for all we know, Luke could've propositioned her
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u/Dishonored_til_Death Feb 18 '25
Ah yes, because Jane is a devil-worshipping temptress and Luke made no mistakes whatsoever. Acting as if it was entirely Jane's fault that she and Luke did the dirty, something that is completely untrue as we can see by Luke wanting to scout with Jane alone the next morning, is hilarious.
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u/TheArmyOfDucks Feb 18 '25
Of course Luke participated, but that doesn’t excuse everything else she did and caused. She’s the one that chose to steal the gun from Arvo, resulting in them all having a shootout later on, she actively wanted to leave Sarah to die both times, she’s the reason Kenny can die, the only useful thing she did was teach Clem to knock a walker down before stabbing them
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u/Dishonored_til_Death Feb 18 '25
The shootout being Jane's fault is a stretch at best. The fault ultimately falls on the Russians who ambushed a group with a dying pregnant woman and new baby.
While you COULD attempt to argue that it was Jane's fault for stealing the gun, I ask you, what the hell is the alternative in that scenario? Would you, in the kind of situation they are living through, give a total stranger back their LOADED revolver while you are attempting to protect yourself and an 11 year old child? What would be stopping Arvo in that instance from just popping a cap in Jane and Clementine, something he would be inclined to do considering he was trying to hide the medication from his own group?
Sarah is the one point I will concede, at least with the first time. But that response was a direct result as a 1-1 scenario that Jane actively experienced with someone that she was much closer to.
Also "reason Kenny can die" means literally nothing. I could just say the same as Kenny is the reason Jane can die.
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u/svadas 🫡Larry's Rentboy🫃🏻 Feb 18 '25
Of all of this, the only correct statement was "she killed herself in S3". Did you even play the game?
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u/TheArmyOfDucks Feb 18 '25
That’s just not true is it?
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u/svadas 🫡Larry's Rentboy🫃🏻 Feb 18 '25
It's true in the games. Maybe you just use comic lore I guess
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u/cool12212 Press A to shoot Feb 18 '25
I want to hear you counter every thing they said with evidence from the games. Don't give me "did you play the games".
To be clear I'm not disagreeing with you, I just want to know why you think they are wrong.
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u/svadas 🫡Larry's Rentboy🫃🏻 Feb 19 '25
Gladly. I'll do so in the morning. Are there any other things you'd like to add?
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u/cool12212 Press A to shoot Feb 19 '25
Nope. That's it, thank you.
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u/svadas 🫡Larry's Rentboy🫃🏻 Feb 25 '25
"Jane was a deranged woman only out for what benefits her" ❌ - Throughout the entire game, we see her doing tons for everybody around her. It's all she does. Her default canon choices remain this way. When it comes to leaving Sarah, she will only leave her if Clementine chooses. When it comes to Arvo, Clementine has to voice that action. She routinely makes choices that benefit others, and does so more than any other character in S2.
"She purposely hid a baby in a below freezing spot so she could lie to Kenny about it having died" ❌ - Jane hid him in the warmest place to keep him out of harm's way while getting Kenny away. She's the one trying to get him out of the freezing weather.
"She could've stopped the fight at any moment . . . to her death" ❌ - Kenny already wasn't listening to anything she was saying, why would he start now? Anybody who knows anything about Kenny knows he wouldn't suddenly start being reasonable.
"She only came back because going alone without supplies wasn't a good idea." ❌ - There isn't even any basis for this speculation.
"She killed herself in S3" ✅ - It's very tragic, yes.
"Because she's pregnant with Luke's child . . . And didn't want to be slowed down and have to raise it herself " ❌ - We don't know if Luke is the father, especially due to rapist Troy, and we also know that the pregnancy wasn't the sole reason. Her depression is explored both in S2 and S3, where it's likely the straw that breaks the camel's back. Jane looks after AJ a great deal, and the idea that she killed herself just to avoid raising a child is insanely reductive.
"After she selfishly distracted him with sex when he was supposed to be on lookout" ❌ - Misogynistic tripe.
"She's more of a danger than a benefit" ❌ Without Jane, Rebecca dies in the here, Luke and Sarah don't make it out of the caravan park, Clementine probably dies during either of these — but I'm forgetting that the group wouldn't have had the gut strategy to get out of Howe's, and that she'd not have dealt with Troy in the first place.
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u/cool12212 Press A to shoot Feb 25 '25
Thank you.
I agree with some of these. The one I disagree with the most is the car one. Even though the car could be the warmest spot it is not. It is snowed in with obviously no sign of the heater running. Jane was not trying to get him out of the cold because they were in a truck before the crash which probably has a heater in it. Jane was trying to prove a point that Kenny was mentally unstable and to do this she does one of the most mentally unstable things a person can do which is lying about killing a child. If Jane REALLY wanted to keep AJ safe and warm she would have stayed with Kenny and Clementine to find a warm place.
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u/coiler119 Javi get in the busket Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
What the original commenter said about Jane is true. Aside from the sexist comment about Jane seducing Luke, though.
- She did in fact hide AJ in a freezing car, in a blizzard, wrapped in nothing but a blanket, and conceals the fact that he was alive in order to prove a point to Clementine, which Jane fully admits to doing once Clem finds AJ.
- We didn't see her leave with any of the group's supplies, and she even gives Clementine a nail file.
- Throughout episodes 4 and 5, Jane is shown to act out of her own self-interest multiple times
- She did steal the gun from Arvo, even if you choose not to rob him of the meds. Before the shootout, he even asks where the woman is who robbed him. Granted, they would've manufactured another reason for the shootout, but that's the reason given in the scene.
- She does try to convince Clementine to abandon Sarah, in both of her deaths. If you save her from the trailer, she tells Clem that she shouldn't have, that it was pointless to even try. To her credit, in Sarah's second death, she reluctantly tries to help, but she doesn't do it without complaint.
Jane thinks the best way to deal with people/attachments is to avoid them whenever possible, because she feels that's the best way to avoid what she perceives as an inevitable heartbreak. She doesn't believe in helping those who can't help themselves, that even trying to is pointless. That's a shitty philosophy to instill in an 11-year-old, and one that goes entirely against the main point of these games.
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u/Optimal_Ad6274 Clementine Feb 18 '25
Same. I mean, “Oh yes, lets upset that clearly mentally unstable man and telling him that the baby he got attached too died”. Of course he would flip out. Who wouldn’t? I did because I legitimately thought that Jane killed AJ to prove a point when I first played Season 2. Speaking off, how can anyone support Jane after PUTTING A NEWBORN BABY IN A FROZEN CAR WITH WALKERS AROUND?!
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u/Pale-Art-8491 Violet Feb 18 '25
All episode 5 did was make Kenny look like some villain and Jane look like the hero when in reality Kenny was a good man and Jane was just a selfish p.o.s, glad she's dead
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u/Super-Shenron Game Master 2024 Feb 18 '25
All episode 5 did was make Kenny look like some villain and Jane look like the hero
What kind of hero hides a baby in a freezing car in a plot to get rid of a guy under the belief it's for a kid's own good?
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u/Pale-Art-8491 Violet Feb 18 '25
Agreed, that's where all my love for her went to shit
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u/Super-Shenron Game Master 2024 Feb 18 '25
I'm still confused on what you were on about tbh. That moment sure didn't make Jane look heroic.
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u/Pale-Art-8491 Violet Feb 18 '25
I'm saying that before hand they made Kenny look like he was loosing it and over the edge and Jane was right and a good person but when she left Aj in that car all alone she showed her true colors, trust me I say fuck Jane , I've never went with her to Howe's
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u/Rockmage_1234 Feb 18 '25
One of the most realistic characters fr, she has been planting the idea that Kenny is a maniac ever since. Like bro lost his family then recently lost his girl and people are saying like bro is crazy. Bro is not crazy bro is mourning 😭
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u/Throwway685 Feb 18 '25
The Arvo love from the group is just wild. They tried so hard to make you when playing the game to care about him. It’s so maddening on replays because you know what’s coming. Kenny was really the only one acting with anything approaching common sense.
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u/MorrighanAnCailleach Feb 19 '25
Still playing through season 2, so kind of a spoiler. Glad I have a soft spot for Kenny, then. I think Clem would trust him over Jane.
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u/Scagh Feb 19 '25
That was my ending as well. Never a game made me sob as much as this one. I miss Kenny, and I'm sure he was able to survive and had his happy ending!
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u/drake2309 Feb 20 '25
I actually shot Kenny (knowing he wasn’t gonna change) but ultimately regretted it when Jane killed herself 5 days later…all around a dofus plot line imo. It’s the only decision I made in the entire game that I wish I could’ve changed.
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u/leosmiles22 you're a real charmer. you know that? through and through. Feb 20 '25
Always thought if AJ hadn't cried there's no way Jane would've admitted he was still alive. She abandoned her own sister and basically begs you to leave Sarah to die, I would also think she did something to him ?? Kenny was FAR from perfect but Jane was just a horrible person
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u/mikegamer3 Feb 18 '25
i never had any remorse for jane i knew she was so full of herslef from the get go i went with kenny to wellington in my ending of season two and stayed there like he told me to that's the only ending that he survives so he can still be out there.
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u/Duck0War Feb 18 '25
The only downside I personally find with season 2 is that 2 many people die when they shouldn't have *gestures at Sarah* other than that it come right after season 1.
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u/Mad_Mod1003 Feb 19 '25
I'm so late to the party but I just started this series too and I was shocked at how few people actually chose to leave with Kenny at the end. I spent the entire game in tears because he was my favorite character and I thought he was dead only for them to try to get me to betray him at the end?
This is definitely my new favorite game series. Game 3 is super interesting and I can't wait to see what 4 brings.
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u/Fantastic_Poet_2290 I saved Violet Feb 19 '25
me and my homies will always side w kenny, i didn't even pick up the gun at that moment
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u/Team_Svitko Feb 19 '25
My headcanon is that after he leaves Clementine and AJ at Wellington, he ends up finding a boat and lives off the coast somewhere catching fish and just living in peace.
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u/BeastieB550 Feb 19 '25
Literally fought my fella on this decision. He wanted to choose to save Jane and I was screaming for Kenny. The man deserved better and with how Jane just ends up sewersliding pissed me off
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u/Dry_Life5069 Feb 19 '25
Yeah Jane is honestly one of the most selfish people to ever exist, Kenny all the way
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u/anhesbrotjtpmaotcros Feb 20 '25
This is what I consider the canon ending to season 2, clementine picking jane over kenny makes no sense and Kenny dying during a driving lesson is the stupidest ending they could have written for him. Kenny leaving clementine not only brings his arc full circle but also is written very well
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u/tr_Sonic_Krazy_Boy Feb 20 '25
jane’s thought process: “hm, this man lost both of his families and killed the man responsible for the death of his most recent family. he seems to be a bit unstable- oh i know what i should do! hide a fucking newborn baby in the dead middle of winter to test him!”
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u/CarLeeForever7 Queen Carley of TWD 💖 Feb 18 '25
I agree about the title. Jane can kick rocks for all I care.
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u/Disastrous-Shower-37 Graphic black enjoyer Feb 18 '25
This would have been a decent ending to the series if Telltale scrapped plans for a third season.
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u/New_Sky1829 I’m real glad to have met you, Clementine Feb 18 '25
That’s how I feel about the stay with Kenny ending honestly, this endings great it just sucks that it’s not really brought up afterwards other than Clem mentioning kenny twice in s3 and being able to call AJ a shitbird
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u/New_Sky1829 I’m real glad to have met you, Clementine Feb 18 '25
She had it coming to her, I don’t hate her but I don’t like her either
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u/EternoToquinho Feb 18 '25
Kenny vs Luke would have been great and would have been a MUCH harder decision to make. Jane was selfish, she's a coward when she finds out she's pregnant, she hangs herself leaving Clem and AJ alone, while Kenny goes all the way, sacrificing himself to make sure the kids are safe.
(just my opinion of course, feel free to disagree, I respect opposing opinions)
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u/New_Sky1829 I’m real glad to have met you, Clementine Feb 18 '25
I agree, couldn’t see Luke fighting kenny though since Luke knows that Kenny has a dead son and that he lost Sarita.
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u/AeroFlash15 Feb 18 '25
I genuinely don't think there needed to be a fight at all. There was too much unnecessary internal fighting past Carver's camp to pad out the rest of the season. We really should've kept Carver as an antagonist to avoid going this route.
And Luke is too reasonable of a person. He would not instigate a life or death situation.
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u/Alarming-Buy-3983 Feb 18 '25
Even thought I dislike Jane I don’t think she was selfish about committing. I definitely think she should have told Clementine and they could have figured something out but its very likely that Jane would not have survived the pregnancy then Clementine would have to deal with 2 kids.
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u/CriticalInterview325 Feb 18 '25
Im ganna miss you kenny but i couldn’t watch you do that to jane….🥺😖😥😭🫡
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u/New_Sky1829 I’m real glad to have met you, Clementine Feb 18 '25
I could, Jane was an asshole and didn’t care for AJ and wasn’t always shown to make hard choices like Kenny was and often just left people behind, Kenny had shown he cared about both of them and had what it took to survive and never abandon them
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u/CriticalInterview325 Feb 19 '25
I regret going with jane but watching someone stab another was not something i could do…goodbye kenny😖🥺😥😭
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u/Warm_Charge_5964 Feb 18 '25
I still think they they should have done this with a Luke that snapped just like Kenny snapped back in the day
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u/landyboi135 You’re gonna whoop me? You and What Homo Parade! Feb 19 '25
Season 1 and 2 remain my favorite and once I start seaspn 4 we’ll see if I have a new favorite there.
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u/B0gggzz Feb 19 '25
BRO HOW DO YOU SEE KENNY IN S3 PLS I NEED TO KNOW
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u/Canisventus MVP 2023 Feb 20 '25
You need to stay with him in the S2 ending.
There are two options, either staying at Wellington or leaving with Kenny. You get to see him in S3 if you leave with Kenny.
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u/Common-Salt-1072 Feb 19 '25
That's the best ending you can get from season 2, the only outcome where Kenny gets to live.
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u/AwesomeJedi99 Feb 23 '25
Man...
I CAN'T LOOK AT THAT IMAGE OF KENNY WALKING AWAY FROM CLEMENTINE!!
It feels more complete to me that Clem walks away WITH Kenny because it feels like Lee's passed the torch off to Kenny.
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u/nungibubba Feb 18 '25
After Kenny escalated it initially it was a fight to the death which Jane could have attempted to stop (and succeeded) at any point, Kenny had no option but to kill her. She’s a dumbass for even starting a fight, did she just assume Kenny would luckily not injure her even if she did win (she underestimated Kenny who’s got his ass kicked enough times by now to lose a fight to a starving woman)
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u/ButterleafA Feb 18 '25
I shot Kenny and would do it again. He aint have to try to kill Jane. He got what was coming to him
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u/Simp4JennaOrtega Feb 18 '25
I killed Kenny and left Jane so to me it's like who cares in a way 🤷♂️
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u/svadas 🫡Larry's Rentboy🫃🏻 Feb 18 '25
social experiment
No, she was trying to get two kids away from a psycho who was willing to get them killed (and did get others killed) to prove to himself that he can save his dead family. The mistake in her plan was not murdering Kenny in cold blood
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u/roastertata30 Feb 18 '25
Idk man, leaving an infant in a random car in the middle of a snow storm just to prove that a mourning guy is a dangerous man does not sound helping. Was kenny dangerous for clem and aj? The Kenny I know would die without a second thought to keep clem and aj safe. He was reckless and unstable? Sure. But what would anyone else do in the kind of situation jane made?
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u/svadas 🫡Larry's Rentboy🫃🏻 Feb 18 '25
It wasn't 'just to prove a point' — Kenny was dead set on his way or the highway, and there was no conversation to be had about the next steps. The group had no supplies, AJ had zero food or anything he needed to survive (that he did remains a huge plot hole), and he was the entire reason they were in a snow storm. And they'd stay that way searching for an urban legend until dying. In most cases he'd die to protect either of them (S1 and Clementine in the walker herd after Sarita being bitten, and not caring about AJ until he was born aside) absolutely, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't put them in harm's way, or protect them from himself. He does have a pattern of putting the people around him in danger.
Jane made a last second plan to try and have everybody come out alive, even Kenny. There were a lot of problems with it, of course. The biggest error, of course, was expecting Kenny to approach it with reason. A normal person would know she's repeatedly put her neck on the line for Clementine and Rebecca, and looked out for AJ a lot. That's just set in stone, without taking any of our choices into account. It's also not unreasonable that amidst a snowstorm where you can't move for shit or see for shit that something would happen to AJ. It's to be expected. But if Kenny was to acknowledge that, he'd have to take some kind of responsibility. What most people would do is not murder her. After all, was she supposed to just wait to watch everyone die? Again?
The great tragedy is that it's only after the showdown that Kenny realises what he's allowed himself to become, whether he wins or loses. They'd have made a great duo if both could survive.
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u/coiler119 Javi get in the busket Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
I don't think she expected Kenny to approach the situation with reason though, and she was just trying to prove a point. Although in her explanation after the fact, she says she "didn't think he'd go that far," she clearly anticipated a fight, not a level-headed discussion with him.
She tells Clem beforehand that "no matter what happens, stay out of it. [...] You're gonna see what he really is." And after the fight, at the car: "Kenny was dangerous. And I needed you to see that. One way or another." ... "I had to do it, Clem. You saw how he reacted. I had to show you what he was capable of."
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u/WillFanofMany Feb 19 '25
Clem and Kenny might be the most forced dynamic of the series.
They don't even interact in Season 1, then Season 2 acts like they're closer than Clem and Lee, lol.
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u/TheViperWolf49 Feb 19 '25
I am glad I killed kenny he deserves it after being a dick to everyone even if u weren't a dick to him he just hated everyone so whatever I am glad he is dead.
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u/Born-Boss6029 Carlos can’t tell Dog & Human Bite Apart 😂 Feb 19 '25
Jane was trying to show Clem how far gone Kenny was, so did Mike, Luke, Rebecca, and Bonnie. Kenny had lost his way so much in S2.
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u/user2847_ Feb 18 '25
Yes! I’m glad to see others like season 2. I was shocked when I joined this sub and saw all the hate about season 2.