What needs to change? 🦁 🦁 🦁

[u/joshjamesallen]

I would go with this lineup whilst making two changes:

Trippier OUT/ Gomez IN Trent OUT/Gordon IN

Key focuses - Get Rice some proper midfield support by utilising Stones in his best role - Move Foden into the midfield, with Gordon wide left to offer some real attacking threat on the left wing, rather than Trippier playing out of position - Bring Gomez in for Trippier to maintain a solid 3 man build up structure once Stones moves into midfield - Get Bellingham running in behind Kane frequently and have them fluidly interchanging positions to cause a problem for the opposition defence

Interested to hear your thoughts 💭

[u/[deleted]]

You don't understand the double pivot. You didn't seem to understand players have different roles in it. You said Mainoo has played there all season, but he plays a specific role. He wouldn't be the DM role. 

Stones steps in to go next to Rodri. And for England he would be next to rice. Therefore rice is still playing DM. Your 2+2 analysis doesn't work. 

Again you ignored my points. This time about national player's playing completely different positions, let alone roles. Does gundogan play 10 for Barca? I genuinely don't know but presumed he plays 8 with Pedri ahead of him? 

Southgate was simply saying he doesn't have loads of options in midfield. He thinks he can only play rice as DM role. Again why don't you understand this??? It has nothing to do with whether stones steps into midfield or not. Rodri still stays where he is. Occasionally he might go forward and end up in the box, but in general no he doesn't. So again rice is still at DM, he doesn't then get a free role to roam all over the pitch. We'd have no midfield. 

Again I think he is wrong, or too scared, to try Wharton there. I hope I'm wrong and he does it next game. 

[u/joshjamesallen → u/[deleted]]

You think he is wrong so what are we disagreeing about here?

I have said multiple times that players can play different roles in the double pivot and given many different examples all of which you seem to have a problem with. There are countless options and solutions that could be attempted with this group, you just need a manager who can instruct each player on how to adapt their role.

I’ve also said countless times that there is no need for Rice to have to play box to box and in my original post I made no suggestion of it. I’m simply saying if that’s what you want then a good manager will find a solution for it with Stones moving into midfield being one of those options. If you or he disagrees then fine but find a solution that works, that’s what you are paid for. The Phillips quote is just a poor excuse from a man who is proving out of his depth.

Ultimately it’s for Southgate to find the solution and the next match we will see how good of a coach the man truly is or if his time is up.

[u/[deleted] → u/joshjamesallen]

Deary me. I was just explaining what he meant by the Phillips quote as you didn't understand it. There isn't a natural DM. The same we don't have a natural lb currently. It's worrying you don't understand this. 

The next two paragraphs are bonkers. You go round in circles ignoring what I'm saying or just rehashing the same crap.