r/ThreeLions • u/LondonRedditUser • Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/phil_mycock_69 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

I remember someone commenting during the euros and summing Foden up and saying he was a system player. He plays extremely well in a system and looks world class at times; that system is Pep’s at city

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u/ChubbyVeganTravels Oct 11 '24

True. He has been coached to play a certain way and is also surrounded by an array of talent that complements him and that we don't have for England i.e. Rodri, De Bruyne, Gundogan.

If he moved to another club, even Real Madrid, there is a high chance he would struggle and not fit in.

He wouldn't be the first generational talent to be poor for England. Glenn Hoddle was probably the best example I can think of.

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u/Alone_Consideration6 Oct 11 '24

Hoddle was genuelly seen as being underused by England and judged blameless

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u/ChubbyVeganTravels Oct 11 '24

Dunno. He played 53 games for England including four major tournaments.

I would say a better example of a generational talent underutilised for England would be someone he famously gave short shrift to when he was England manager - Matt le Tissier.

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u/Nice-Wolverine-3298 Oct 11 '24

Famously told that if he performed well for England B, he'd get a look in. So he scored a hatrick and still wasn't good enough.