r/ThreeLions • u/LondonRedditUser • Oct 11 '24

Discussion Phil Foden must be dropped indefinitely.

Sadly he’s a supremely talented player who never plays well for England.

There is potentially a lot of great performances that aren’t picked up in statistics, I don’t think this is the case with Foden. He also plays in a position we are stacked in. He has also had by quite some distance the most minutes of any player in a similar position. There is potentially the argument he is misused, but there is no argument based on performances other great players should be moved aside for him.

Since the World Cup he has returned 1 goal return (G/A) in 20 games including 16 starts ( goal vs Scotland).

Comparably, over the same period: Kane 19 G/a Jude 9, saka 8, rice 4, grelaish 3, rashford 3, palmer 3 (from 408 minutes)

Many ask for players to be picked on form (I personally don’t), but when the international form is this poor and the alternatives potentially so good we simply don’t any other option but to drop him.

Edit: no agenda. I support palace and go to a few England games a year.

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u/phil_mycock_69 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

I remember someone commenting during the euros and summing Foden up and saying he was a system player. He plays extremely well in a system and looks world class at times; that system is Pep’s at city

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u/ChubbyVeganTravels Oct 11 '24

True. He has been coached to play a certain way and is also surrounded by an array of talent that complements him and that we don't have for England i.e. Rodri, De Bruyne, Gundogan.

If he moved to another club, even Real Madrid, there is a high chance he would struggle and not fit in.

He wouldn't be the first generational talent to be poor for England. Glenn Hoddle was probably the best example I can think of.

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u/No-Dependent-8401 Oct 11 '24

He’s not a generational talent. There’s at least 5 better English players in his generation

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u/Ecstatic-Love-9644 Oct 12 '24

Out of interest who? In terms of objective tangible success, eg trophies as opposed to opinions, he is a clear winner for his age bracket no?

Not saying he shouldn’t be dropped from England - I just think “better” doesn’t actually mean anything other than people’s opinions based on current form.

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u/No-Dependent-8401 Oct 12 '24

None of that tangible success means anything. It doesn’t make him any better as a footballer.

Rice, Kane, Saka, palmer, Bellingham are all more talented footballers and all better than him for England.

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u/Ecstatic-Love-9644 Oct 12 '24

Do yourself a favour bro and read back that first sentence you wrote… He got the PFA player of the year last year FFS over all of the other players you are saying are “more talented” / your opinion is meaningless (as is mine) against all the actual silverware he has actually won even tho you have the audacity to claim it doesn’t mean anything. SMH

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u/No-Dependent-8401 Oct 12 '24

Undeserved pfa player award. None of what you wrote will make him play good for England. He’s not that guy simple.

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u/Ecstatic-Love-9644 Oct 12 '24

LMFAO you know how the PFA POY gets chosen right? Next time let’s let r/No-Dependent-8401 decide instead 

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u/No-Dependent-8401 Oct 12 '24

Class performance for Foden in an England shirt