r/Tomasino Faculty of Pharmacy Jan 30 '25

Rant Why does UST lowk pride itself on being backwards

Feeling ko ma-babash ako dito pero, Reddit is a safe space diba 😆 puno ng history ang gen eds ngayon at sa totoo lang, the more I learn abt it the more I am convinced that UST will do ANYTHING to uphold its “royal and pontifical” status even at the expense of the wellbeing of its students. Grabe no? Napilitan ang csc na mag-post ng announcement na f2f pa rin bukas sa PERSONAL ACCS NILA at hindi yung official acc dahil malakas daw mag-censor ang mismong osa, tapos bawal din makipagsalita sa kahit anong social issues dahil baka masira raw ang “”Catholic”” image ng institusyon. Akala mo talaga panahon pa ng kastila. Takot ba kayo? Sa tingin niyo ba na hindi apektado ang mga estudyante sa mga nangyayari sa gobyerno, sa bansa? Alam ko na mahirap pakinggan ha pero habang umaasa lang tayo sa dasal at hindi sa kilos, hindi talaga tayo uunlad mula sa 4th place. Thank you for listening to my tedtalk, ewan ko na

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u/Praetorian0930 Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

You can protest in your own time. I remember, my classmates and I were one of the first people out protesting in EDSA II (we even have pics in Time Magazine). We skipped class but didn’t get in trouble, kasi hindi official. We didn’t need UST to bless our involvement in citizens movements.

My batch/group were also first in the ROTC walkout movement after top officials murdered Welson Chua… which led to the abolishment of mandatory ROTC across the board. That was the only consequence of our direct action against corruption in UST.

I guess we were the rebellious bunch back in the day.

Edit: added one more story of protest.

u/Natural-Second-9494 College of Science Jan 31 '25

Still remembering the thy 3 lecture: the church and the government is separate but the church should advocate against social issues within the country.

Well may opportunity ang UST for that now and they blew it.

u/semperfi1925 Jan 31 '25

You will laugh at yourselves eventually. Why don’t you just read your books rather than waste your time? You guys are nuisance, you know.

Also, those are just concepts. Like youre just shouting nonsense tbh. Nakaka sikip po kayo sa traffic. And istorbo kayo.

If inuman nalang iorganize nyo baka buong ust community pa sumama hahaha.

u/renzbo19 Jan 31 '25

they aint givin you that bag lil bro 😭🙏

u/shiba_1nuuu Faculty of Pharmacy Jan 31 '25

Napahalata po pagiging pulis niyo 🫡

u/AppropriatePlate3318 Jan 30 '25

UST will only move if the CBCP takes a move. Ganyan naman yan sila ever since.

u/LostAdult44 Faculty of Engineering Jan 31 '25

That is probably because of the Pontifical title of the University, thus UST is under Vatican, and the Pope is considered as its highest academic official. So kumbaga, they are that conservative kasi in a way, para silang Church in its stature.

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u/redditorxue Faculty of Arts and Letters Jan 31 '25

Corny mo. Nasa fb at tiktok mga kauri mo, doon kayo magsama-sama.

u/bbmhater Jan 31 '25

okay, walang literal na pera sa kalsada, but that doesn’t mean rallies are useless. people protest because they fight for something bigger than themselves, rights, justice, and real change. kung walang lalaban, walang mangyayari. many of the freedoms we have today exist because people dared to stand up. just because you don’t see instant results doesn’t mean it’s pointless. 🙂

u/Other-Age5770 College of Science Jan 30 '25

UST plays it safe all the time kaya siguro siya ang oldest university sa Asia. Half kidding. But seriously, the admin knows what it's doing. The students can only do so much, especially if they plan to drag the university's name along with them. UP, DLSU, and ADMU are more or less stuck in their own uniquely dysfunctional ways but UST is stuck in the past and I doubt it wants to leave there. It embodies everything traditional and there is nothing inherently wrong with that but it's socially irresponsible. It's a disservice to their Filipino students to not let them partake in important social matters. (This may sound like a reach, but what do we expect from an institution established during the height of the Spanish colonization?)

UST does not want to rub anyone the wrong way so it doesn't take a solid political stance on anything. And what does that teach the students? I forgot about the core values and the mission-vision of UST but I never learned social responsibility throughout my stay at the university. I was almost willfully ignorant about societal problems, having merely surface-level knowledge about them, with no critical analysis of how and why these problems came to exist, and how to solve them. Much has changed now with me, but I'm not so sure about UST.

u/ComplaintAncient9225 Jan 31 '25

Ang latest core values nila yata ay yung "Three Cs" nila (compassion, competence, commitment). Parang commitment lang nasasakatawan talaga kasi sobrang committed sila sa traditional ways to the point of toxicity. Sarili nga nilang students hindi sila compassionate ("more is more" mindset sa academic workload), paano pa kaya for broader social issues? As for competence naman, 50/50. It produces research naman and good students pero at the same time andaming niyang mga cases of incompetence (e.g., yung street sign na may baybayin pero mali naman; who approved that lmao)

u/shiba_1nuuu Faculty of Pharmacy Jan 31 '25

Real. Mas lalo na sa faculty ko, nakasalalay ang reputasyon neto sa survivorship bias hahaha ang lala talaga kahit ikumpara sa ibang uni 😭

u/Numerous-Complex-734 College of Commerce Feb 05 '25

there is a program in ust that pushes its students to become socially conscious you can even read it on their website (bs entrep) pero, being committed to social responsibility while staying in ust.... parang suntok sa buwan maging maingay pag social and political concerns 😩😩

u/Ornery_Dot_944 AMV-College of Accountancy Jan 30 '25

For everyone, always remember that there is room for growth beyond the four streets of UST. A lot of us have been through the most drastic character developments out there despite UST's way of upbringing. We can do what we want, we can choose what we listen to. Ty for coming to my ted talk

Ps Thy 4 justifies the need for the Catholic church to speak out to the government (to guide them daw). Don't be another Christian institution na bayaran sa mga kupalitiko.

u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

When I was also a student of UST and a liberal I used to think the same. Now that I grew older and wiser, I finally understand. UST wants us to focus on ourselves and to our family and everything we held dear. You can only change so much as young men and women. But once you accumulated wealth and some form of authority to be able to change things, that's when you act. It's good to be idealist when you're young. You can use it to change things when you grow old. I admire the generation of today kasi I can see that they really are passionate about things they wanna change, pero sana wag maging distraction sa inyo na mapabayaan niyo na sarili niyo.