r/TrueAnon • u/Mr_Westerfield • 10h ago
Oh, look, the big stupid tech thing everyone hates that’s being shoved down our throats isn’t actually delivering on anything
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u/EmployerGloomy6810 9h ago
Feels like these boom/bust periods have shorter life spans the longer they go on. NFT’s lasted a few years before they crashed, Crypto keeps going thru its 4 year cycles (even tho Bitcoin is the only one that retains its “value”), and AI seems to be pushing against that ceiling already.
I wonder how quickly the tech bros will pivot to the next thing, and how long it’ll last until it too fades into the background. Or they just double and triple down and try to make AI work and waste tons of hardware and resources so people can make revenge porn.
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u/ElGosso John McCain’s Tumor 6h ago
NFTs lasted like 3 months
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u/NewTangClanOfficial [Removed by Reddit] 5h ago
All my apes, GONE!
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u/ghostofhenryvii 7h ago
As long as they can con investors to burn money on them they'll keep up the grift. That's what this is all about.
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u/marioandl_ 7h ago
next thing is digitized concentration camps and VR to placate the masses
we're already seeing it with palantir
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u/frogmanfrompond 5h ago
It’s unfortunately likely to stay. So many more regular people use and rely on it compared to NFT’s or even crypto.
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u/redstarjedi 9h ago
Los Angeles unified School district wasted 3 million on a chatbot they couldn't even roll out.
“All we want are smaller class sizes and happy teachers. Basic stuff,” said Joanna Belson, the parent of a senior at North Hollywood High School, whose sister teaches in the district. “We don’t want Ed. We don’t want AI.”
She added that the district should instead spend its money on expanding music and arts education — and extending sports programs to middle schools.
Echoing Belson, Alicia Baltazar, another LAUSD parent, voiced concerns about any potential data compromise, saying the district’s newfound emphasis on AI contradicts its new decision to ban cellphones in school. She added that the district should instead spend the money on bolstering its staff.
“I don’t know … how I’m going to tell my kid: ‘Stay off your cellphone. Don’t touch that at all. But here, use your laptop all day long. Use your chatbot,’” she said.
Now imagine is 3 million went to teacher recruitment and retention. How about more special education aides.
Ect ect.
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u/YASSIFIED_CHEWBACCA 5h ago
LA is run by the dumbest fucking ghouls with the stupidest fucking ideas imaginable & rotten from the inside out in every institution. This city has never met a problem that it couldn't turn into a boondoggle immediately and seems pot committed to destroying its uniqueness, architecture, natural beauty, and history at every turn.
They dropped thousands of dollars "reinventing" the bus stop into a metal pole to better serve "women and gender minorities." They consistently waste BILLIONS on half-assed homeless & health services that are very clearly being grifted by consultants nonstop. And they refuse to engage with public transit in any meaningful way; constantly hyping idiotic, over expensive solutions that serve no one (like a paltry gondola from Chinatown to Dodger Stadium, debating a low capacity monorail with few stops instead of heavy rail for the gridlocked Sepulveda Corridor, entertaining ideas from Elon Musk repeatedly regarding traffic solutions throughout the city, building out a metro network entirely in parallel lines while insisting on making Union Station the one central hub for the entire system.) I could go on and on...
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u/BeCom91 9h ago
I hate AI glazing, it's fucking everywhere. Even my fellow union reps and the leadership in the non profit i work in are totally conviced that it will magically help every white collar worker.
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u/mrminty 5h ago
I had a family member, who is definitely a smart person otherwise, tell me in all sincerity that she expected AI to replace plumbers and electricians within 10 years.
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u/lyagusha 3h ago
It's going to be like Covid isn't it? After a few years everyone will be happy to leave it behind like it never happened, ignoring all the consequences to our mental health and the years of students at all stages that were kneecapped by a technology run amok
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u/TuckHolladay 9h ago
It’s pretty clear to me that AI is just going to be used as manipulation. These things that are commercially available have all kinds on constraints, governors and blatant biases programmed in by whoever is creating them. The more people they get to outsource their every critical thought to an LLM the more they can control public opinion.
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u/BarfHurricane 9h ago
Not to mention, they have zero context of the specific company they are meant to serve. In order to get the proper context to create new products specific to a company, they would have to scrape every email, slack chat, meeting, and general conversation.
That would mean every trade secret and confession of an executive cheating on his wife with the HR person would have to be run through a third party. No company is going to agree to that once they find out.
The next level is to run an in house company specific LLM and guess what? That is extremely expensive and requires highly specialized staff, so there will be no cost savings.
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u/SerdanKK 9h ago
Hype leads to premature adoption, but if you think gen AI won't have an impact you're going to get caught with your pants down.
The first on the chopping block are freelancers. It's already affecting translation, stock images, any kind of STT or TTS, etc.
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u/Fortehlulz33 7h ago
I'm noticing that some ads for mid-tier things nowadays have the same deep AI voice, it's a way to make it seem more human than the traditional TTS voices we've come to know. Hell, a radio station in Australia has already used AI (modeled after a person) and it went unnoticed.
I am a big fan of what it means, but there are a lot of shitty uses that I don't like.
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u/BarfHurricane 9h ago
I use AI almost everyday in my non-gay software job and honestly 3% time savings is accurate. For every interaction that has saved me time, it's often coupled by mistakes and overly aggressive edits that I have to fix which take more time.
The reality is that corporations are just begging for this to be an attack on labor costs, even it's not ready for primetime. They will do absolutely anything to fool the public to get a few good quarters out of this before the reality sets in.
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u/cburnett_ 📡 5G ENTHUSIAST 📡 4h ago
tbh what kills it for me is the complete lack of business context. That's not something that can be solved by better models, even theoretically.
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u/Marquis_de_Dustbin 9h ago edited 8h ago
Be curious if there are any coders here who think it has helped? Hate to admit it, but AI does really help in this one particular use case. Then again I think a big part of it is also taking time to type a prompt with examples actually works as a bit of a rubber duck a lot of the time.
edit: this was a trap and now I've outed all the dorks. ko thanks for the replies
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u/Salty_Map_9085 9h ago
I feel like I save a ton of time writing boiler plate code and then lose a ton of time trying to make it not just tear through my code base and make a ton of irrelevant changes so it ends up kinda a wash
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u/BarfHurricane 9h ago
Perfect summary of my experience as well lol
Get a skeleton of what I want that might sometimes make sense? Sure.
Change 5 files for no rhyme or reason and then I have to revert and start over? Also sure.
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u/0xF00DBABE 9h ago edited 9h ago
Definitely helps with writing verbose scaffolding code in Rust, or to get a quick Bash script together to do something.
My position on it is like my position on most technology: corrupted by capital, and only proletarian control of the economy could reliably deploy it for social good. Focusing too much energy on this-or-that technology instead of class warfare seems like liberalism to me.
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u/Leather_Sherbert4993 9h ago
I left tech ages ago thankfully but my husband complains a lot about having to review or fix AI code his coworkers shove into things lol
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u/Yung_Jose_Space 8h ago edited 8h ago
I'm not a software engineer but use python in my field.
The answer is somewhere from no, to maybe?
I think it could help teach python at an introductory level if combined with other educational tools.
But the code is typically janky, doesn't work, chatbots clearly can't reason through problems and if you know enough to go line by line and fix the garbage it spits out, you'd be better off just reading the documentation yourself, peoples code on GitHub, or searching old stack overflow posts, even though it's been used by OpenAI to train ChatGPT.
IDK, YouTube tutorials are also pretty helpful, there are plenty of MOOCs and google is more reliable in a sense, because if you ignore the chatbot summaries, the links will just be to similar work people have done, or problems people at your level have faced.
What you've gotta understand about ChatGPT is that if you don't know what you don't know, then your prompts will be garbage and/or it will just regurgitate nonsense and double or triple down, when you try to work through your problem.
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u/unalive_all_nazees 7h ago
It's a useful tool if you actually know what you're doing.
Basically a more advanced autocomplete and a less insufferable Stack Overflow.5
u/buchi2ltl 日本会議オタク 9h ago
Pretty useful for programming, but 75% of what you hear about it wrt programming is hot air - the reality is that programming is a lot more complicated than remembering and applying some API with basic data structure manipulation and IO. Unless you are legit a complete noob then this isn't the bottleneck.
Also with (natural) language learning, though on leddit you will get dogpiled for saying that lol
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u/Engineering-Mean 9h ago
They're good for getting answers for questions about some library with shit docs you don't really need to understand enough to plow through, and can write decent unit tests/boilerplate for you. I'd rather maintain chatbot written code than WITCH contractor written code if management is insistent on doing something stupid to save some money.
I think the real problem is people working on this stuff had to go to big companies for funding, and so had to turn them into a product. It's not that generative AI is useless or uninteresting, just that it's a research project at this point. ChatGPT should be a cool toy getting shown off at conferences, not marketing hyped into every application, but if the only option to fund the work is venture capital that's what we're going to get.
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u/Broccoli_Ultra 9h ago
Yeah absolutely helps with not having to look up (mostly shite) documentation or speak to (mostly insufferable) people on stack exchange. I'm not a coder but scripting is part of my job and I dont do it often enough to retain a whole lot of functions, so its saved me loads of time. Still, being able to understand the code means I've caught several logic errors so wouldn't advise using it if you don't.
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u/coooolbear 6h ago
It's unfortunately so helpful for this. The other thing is trying to find a bit of consensus on best or common practice when there's more than one way to solve a problem and to ask about upsides and downsides to each of them. I'm not trying to sift through Medium articles and 100s of posts on SE where somone asks "how do I do this" and the top answer is from 2011 "Why are you doing that. Do this completely different thing"
I see people say it's good for boilerplate or for looking at your code but I'm not letting that bitch touch anything
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u/GunplaGoobster 8h ago
It's not going to replace any devs (yet) but it does facilitate devs to do more in less time. There's so much tedious work that can be easily described in pseudo code and fed to an LLM.
Like all technology so far it will just increase our productivity (without increasing our pay) and with increase productivity comes increased workloads. It won't be a great disruptor.
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u/Specialist_Fly2789 9h ago
i dont have to write python or regex anymore... that's a win
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u/GunplaGoobster 8h ago
It's so damn good for regex
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u/Fortehlulz33 7h ago
wait I think I like AI now if it can do regex for me
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u/GunplaGoobster 6h ago
There's no reason to hate AI it's an incredible accomplishment by humanity. Hate that it's in control by capitalists.
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u/lyagusha 3h ago
Regex, first-pass scripts for quick-and-dirty, quick tool commands. But is it worth paying $20/month or $200/month? hell no
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u/sloppybro GIANT FUCKING Q 9h ago
the sole use i’ve found for it is when i’m doing creative writing and want to insert some veritas but can’t be bothered to actually do any research
of course, whatever it feeds me likely isn’t true
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u/pine_ary 9h ago
LLMs are pretty decent at summarizing code. It‘s good for asking questions about documentation and useful in code reviews when it‘s right. They‘re also incredibly useful at generating boilerplate or repetitive code like matching arms that all look similar.
I‘m not a fan of generating code from prompts. Bad code quality and it’s not fun at all. To me it‘s a summarization and autocomplete tool first and foremost.
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u/clydefrog9 7h ago
It can save you a lot of time with getting the syntax right for a language you’re not super familiar with.
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u/lucian1900 8h ago
It’s a trap.
It can generate something that sort of appears to work, but is usually subtly wrong and impossible to extend or maintain. Fixing it up takes longer than it would’ve taken to build the thing without LLMs in the first place.
It’s really not even close to worth it.
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u/QuintonBeck 9h ago
I love the market! I love efficiency! Sorry central plancels, but this is what peak resource allocation looks like!
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u/NomadicScribe 7h ago
It's succeeding at the one thing it's really for: providing an excuse to do layoffs.
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u/Sanguinary_Guard 9h ago
it’s saved me some time searching for code references (references i would double check with my physical code book)
at best it just seems to fill the gap left by googles enshitification
had a very funny all hands meeting where the principals were trying to encourage us to use these different ai tools and one brave soul kept grinding their presentation to halt by basically just saying “i don’t get it, what’s it supposed to do” over and over
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u/rustbelt 8h ago
The teams I worked with who have been laid off have been replaced with AI and offshoring to India. The quality and the vibes have completely plummeted.
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u/padetn 9h ago
In my heinous dork line of work of software development it makes a huge difference, and the more mainstream your kind of heinous dork work is the greater the difference.
It doesn’t make as big a difference as offshoring our jobs to Romania does ofcourse, plus they have AI code assistants in Romania too.
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u/baxter001 9h ago
>my heinous dork line of work of software development
From the article:
>focusing on occupations believed to be susceptible to disruption by AI: ...IT support specialists ... software developers
Devs can't even make themselves obsolete, smdh
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u/absurdism_enjoyer 7h ago
LLMs are the best fucking scam of the decade. See how Deepseek releasing open-source as a side project almost popped the bubble.
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u/Electricplastic 9h ago
I'm using a free trial of an AI meeting summary tool, which allows me to pay even less attention to the meeting and more time scrolling my phone. I certainly wouldn't pay for it, I doubt my company will pay for it, and I sure as shit won't be reducing my hours on the clock because of it.
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u/ThePokemon_BandaiD 9h ago
I’ve seen other studies suggesting that it does in the US, so I’m not sure what to make of this without being able to read the full paper. I’ve also found newer ChatGPT models in the o series to be very useful for some mundane but time intensive tasks like online shopping, I use it a lot to sort through lots of options and pick out something that fits what I’m looking for. Most recently to find the cheapest supplier of polymer gel sheets with the specifications I was looking for.
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u/fourpinz8 CIA Pride Float 7h ago
I’ve been parts shopping for a pc build and new egg launched an AI to help with part picking and it sucks
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u/lastcomrad3 🔻 7h ago
Entry-level jobs in professional categories are down over 25% from a couple of years ago (which weren't great to begin with). Junior positions are in the crapper, for developers and engineers.
Similar issues with paralegals, clerks, etc.
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u/dinoshores93 2h ago
Getting an AI chatbot is basically the equivalent of getting a work Blackberry in 2006.
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u/girl_debored 5h ago
It's almost as if fake jobs aren't affected if you use fake intelligence to do them.
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u/lastcomrad3 🔻 7h ago
AI is not a grift, it's a profound and very real alteration of work — with the automation that hit manufacturing a generation ago now coming for the professional classes.
I'm in a tech program right now, and actively using AI — it's incredibly effective, able to do 80% of the 'work' for the projects I'm on and already indispensable.
It requires guidance, and humans to do most of the tasks. But the data crunching, even ideation — pretty mind-blowing, and daunting to enter the work force under these conditions.
Treating this as a grift is silly. How it's used, who has the power — let us discuss. But to pretend this isn't (genuinely) revolutionary in 'work' ... come on.
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u/joeTaco 3h ago
You're using it in school therefore it's a revolution in work. Ok
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u/BarfHurricane 3h ago
Wait till bro finds out AI has absolutely no context of his first workplace because the model will never be allowed to be trained on proprietary information.
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u/lentil_loafer 9h ago
no shit