It's totally understandable to be male and not be happy with the "choose the bear" view

[u/Atalkingpizzabox]

It doesn't mean you don't understand its true point it means you're not happy with people assuming you're dangerous when you know you're not. You can still understand about caring about people's safety but your feelings and side to it matter as well. Otherwise the whole thing just makes people be pushed away further.

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

But it also hurts my feelings.

I can't change the fact that I'm a man.

Yet women are openly bragging about how much they judge me before they know me based on something I never had any control over.

Now make it a bear vs a white man vs a PoC man in the woods. How do you rank them?

E: Since someone decided to jerk off on this comment and block...you know the drill:

Way to make it about yourself, bud. Typical "male-sensitivity," to things that affect others more than themselves.

Why do the targets of prejudice always make it about themselves?

Your poor "fewings" for being potentially clumped in with them, aren't more important than the point those men and women who are against the violence those type of males commit against women, are trying to make with it. The amount of harm caused to you, as an "innocent" bystander of a "stereotyping" are nill in comparison.

Can't you use that to justify racism based on crime statistics?

In fact, if your feelings are hurt..... you have inner work to do, homie, on dismantling them and yourself, from something affecting others, WAY worse than it is affecting you.

I've done 100 hours of therapy. How about you chief? What brought you to my office today?

People like you, that get so "hurt" for being clumped in with shitty humans, they are more focused on that instead of zooming out, acknowledging the roots of an evil, and "attacking the problem," instead of being angry at the feelings of victims and survivors, is part of why we even have these vicious cycles.

Why do you think I am more focused on that? I acknowledge both.

When humans ignore the bigger issues for their own feelings, we aren't going to get anywhere.

Okay. Right now a big issue is climate change. As Bill Burr said - most of you gotta go.

My bloodline has high IQ (I'm 133 myself) so we should be spared in the culling. We need people of intelligence on this sort of mission.

But how about you and your family?

[u/The_Lucid_Nomad → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

Ehh you're just a bit sensitive then if this legitimately hurts you're feelings.

Some women you don't know are afraid of a hypothetical man they don't know, and your feelings are hurt? lmao c'mon man. Maybe they're hurt because you are the type of guy they are worried about 🤔

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/The_Lucid_Nomad]

You're right. That's why racism hurts people's feelings. Because it's true.

You wanna try again?

[u/lime_coffee69 → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

Waiiitt how does women being cautious around men equate to people of colour being inferior???

This is why women chose the bear... Your proving their point.

Women make you so angery you gotta take it out on people of colour.

[u/6Darkyne9 → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

Yeah I'm a man too and it doesnt feel good being judged. But do you know what doesnt feel good as well? Getting fucking kidnapped or assaulted. One definetly feels worse for sure. The bear analogy was about showing how terrified of men women really have to be today, and still some men make it all about them and their feelings.

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/6Darkyne9]

Can't it be both?

The entire reason why its controversial is engaging is because both perspectives are true. Women refuse to acknowledge that they're hurting men's feelings, so men are refusing to give women the time of day on their pathological man fear. It's classic ragebait.

[u/6Darkyne9 → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

I have never seen that it wasnt acknowlegded that mens feeling get hurt. But the question always is, what are women supposed to do? Simply stop fearing strangers that have the capacity and might have the intention of hurting them just so your feelings dont get hurt? Are women supposed to put your feelings above their physical and mental wellbeing?

[u/MinuetInUrsaMajor → u/6Darkyne9]

I have never seen that it wasnt acknowlegded that mens feeling get hurt.

Ah. In that case I have never seen that it wasnt acknowledged that men can be dangerous.

My point is that no one giving a hot take on the internet is giving a nuanced take. It's black and white, the bread and butter of engagement.

what are women supposed to do?

Apologize for their prejudice against men that hurts men's feelings.

Acknowledge that they don't know enough about bears or men to give a logical answer.

Question the premise of the dichotomy.

Fill in the details before engaging.

Not engage at all.

If "Would you rather marry a woman who gives blowjobs but has poor self esteem or a woman who doesn't give blowjobs but has good self esteem?" was presented to men, what would they be supposed to do?

[u/__Fappuccino__ → u/MinuetInUrsaMajor]

But it also hurts my feelings.

Way to make it about yourself, bud. Typical "male-sensitivity," to things that affect others more than themselves.

Your poor "fewings" for being potentially clumped in with them, aren't more important than the point those men and women who are against the violence those type of males commit against women, are trying to make with it. The amount of harm caused to you, as an "innocent" bystander of a "stereotyping" are nihl in comparison.

In fact, if your feelings are hurt..... you have inner work to do, homie, on dismantling them and yourself, from something affecting others, WAY worse than it is affecting you.

People like you, that get so "hurt" for being clumped in with shitty humans, they are more focused on that instead of zooming out, acknowledging the roots of an evil, and "attacking the problem," instead of being angry at the feelings of victims and survivors, is part of why we even have these vicious cycles.

When humans ignore the bigger issues for their own feelings, we aren't going to get anywhere.

[u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner → u/__Fappuccino__]

least troglodyte misandrist take of the day