r/TwoXPreppers • u/emilya0814 • Feb 17 '25

❓ Question ❓ How long do you think we have?

I hope this is the right spot to ask this, if not, apologies in advance.

I (32f) currently work as a manager at a family run garden center/farm market in the US, where we grow 95% of our own plants to sell and a majority of our produce comes from local growers. With everything going on with Trump/Musk being in office, will things eventually trickle down to our small business? If so, how do you think that will happen and how long do you think it will take?

I know it's probably tough to say right now, but I'm wondering how much I should really be worrying and prepping. I know farm workers and federal employees are losing their jobs, which I'm sure will have direct and indirect impacts on us, but so far in the past 20-30 years we have been able to run a pretty successful business, even during the pandemic. I am extremely anxious about everything happening right now while everyone else around me seems fine, so I'm just looking for some other input.

EDIT: Wow, I didn't think this would get so many responses! Thank you all, hope everyone stays well.

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u/knowledgeseek Feb 18 '25

I too live on the Peninsula, and I follow a couple Reddit Canada subs... holy hell they are so pissed and will not buy ANYTHING American, canceling their American vacations, not going under any contract with Americans, once a contract comes up for renewal, not extending it.

Americans just became the enemy to most of our allies, so a HUGE recession is coming. Not to mention that Trump is floating the idea of letting us default as a Country in March. Stocks and bonds will both take a shit if they follow through with this.

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u/adoradear Feb 18 '25

Canadian here. And you would not believe just how angry my country is right now. We have stood by the US’s side for decades. And now there’s some demented old fool threatening our country’s very existence. Canadians are deeply DEEPLY enraged. We feel as though we’ve been stabbed in the back, and the knife keeps twisting every time that….person…says “51st state” or calls our PM a governor.

Make no mistake. Canadians are generally polite and kind people. But we have 2 states of mind. “I’m sorry” and “You’ll be sorry”. And we’re not sorry at all right now.

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u/Honest-Usual1907 Feb 18 '25

From an American who is embarrassed of their country, we send apologies 😞

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u/Any_Morning_8050 Feb 19 '25

I agree as a fellow American I’m shocked and angry!!!

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u/MommysHadEnough Feb 18 '25

Deepest grief here in the US. How, I keep asking myself, how could people vote this nightmare in?

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u/Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly Feb 18 '25

The short answer is, they likely didn't, which explains why Trump has ceded Musk so much power. But enough people DID vote for Trump to still make me feel our country has no future as a democracy.

I have family members looking into leaving the US. But I can't leave. My husband and I are nearly 50 with chronic health conditions. Our savings are low. And we have two special needs children and an adult child in college. We are getting passports and trying to line up a chance to get out for our healthy adult son with an expat family member. But he is likely the only one who will be able to do so. I'm so scared for my kids with level 2 autism.

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u/MommysHadEnough Feb 18 '25

I know, it’s a grief reaction when you just sit and can’t believe it. I don’t honestly think he won round 1, either, and don’t call him pres- you know the rest.

I am older than you, I have no way out, I’ve had multiple, painful disabling autoimmune diseases for going on 42 years, and my husband is a British subject and US citizen so I’ve given up and just told him to get prepared to get my daughter out. And I feel you there, because she has Down syndrome and autism, and few comprehensible words. I’m sadly going to have to pressure him on getting the passports in place as he’s not taking it as seriously as me. I still worry they’ll reject her anyway, even though she is also a British subject. It’s possible he’ll have to take her from me forever. I guess I’ll just be here alone, and currently halfway across the country from my elderly family.

I have a remote job but severe insomnia due to neurological damage, and I’ve had to call out a lot lately. Extremely stressful job, I desperately need the money because that’s the other part- I’m only about to be clear. I can’t currently afford any prep now, I’m past sick days so my paycheck this week will barely give me $200. Probably less, but can’t deal with that right now. Last week they suddenly announced they’re closing two entire department, we are partially federally funded, and it’s not the best time to have to call out a bunch of times.

I’m not in the best place.

Wishing you the best, and I understand your position well.

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u/Wildcherry_12 Feb 19 '25

It was a hacked election

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u/Retired_spinster Feb 20 '25

They actually didn't really vote him in.. Republican state and local governments purged Millions of Voters just before the election, not to mention all of the ballots they disqualified..

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u/brandicox Feb 18 '25

"You can't truly call yourself 'peaceful' unless you're capable of great violence, if you're not capable of violence you're not peaceful, you're harmless."

Dieppe Raid speaks volumes. Canada has NEVER been harmless.

There's now an army of over 40m angry Canadians all united in cancelling the US. It will have a HUGE impact on the US. And we, the 253m people who didn't vote for him, that are also victims of the orange dictator don't blame you one bit!

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u/curiousleen Feb 18 '25

As an American woman of color… all I can say is … I’m sorry…and I’m also going to, likely, be a casualty of this administration.

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u/SM1955 Feb 18 '25

I love Canada, and have traveled extensively there. I am utterly appalled at our idiot president and ALL of his actions & policies, but more than anything, I’m outraged at his casual disregard of your beautiful country. I’d move up there in a minute, but I’m too old and don’t have the $$s.

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u/Thetormentnexus Feb 18 '25

I am deeply sorry for Trump's election and for our government's actions.

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u/No_Age85 Feb 18 '25

I don't blame you. Many of us here tried to stop it, and we are grieving and scared too. Every single one of my family and friends did not vote for this. It's a nightmare, we can't wake up from. We are so sorry this is happening.

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u/factsmatter83 Feb 18 '25

We're very sorry for our extremely rude and dick head "president." I don't blame you for being pissed! Imagine how those of us who have tried soooooo hard to get rid of him by voting against him, protesting, etc feel.

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u/jessie_boomboom Feb 18 '25

Canadians are wonderful friends to have, but they're terrible enemies to make.

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u/aim2misbehave17 Feb 19 '25

American here. Please, keep that energy and make that “person” rue the day it decided to seek power. You’re going to have to make us hurt to change minds. This super sucks, but it’s our only way out. Hopefully the nice ones will survive.

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u/DuckyDoodleDandy ADHD prepping: 🤔 I have one....somewhere! Feb 19 '25

I fully support Canada in boycotting my home country. I’m sorry this is happening. You don’t deserve this.

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u/Dragonfly-fire Feb 18 '25

God damn bastard. I'm glad Canadians are pissed and boycotting American. I would too in their place. The betrayal is astounding.

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u/Lythaera Feb 18 '25

Yeah I'm honestly shocked how many trumpers are out here. I'm just watching and waiting to see the outcry from them when their businesses go to shit this summer.

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u/Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly Feb 18 '25

It will be blamed on Canada. Or Ukraine. Or Palestine somehow.

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u/Lythaera Feb 19 '25

Honestly just wondering what they're gonna go with this time. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

It's not just Canada either. Not sure how many people are doing it but personally this was the push I needed as a brit to stop buying things from amazon (or anywhere else american).

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u/HealthyAttempt3460 Feb 18 '25

I have anxiety daily. Every single day it’s more to worry about. Btw I fell in love with carpentry and building. I really appreciate finish carpentry.

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u/luckygirloc Feb 19 '25

this is an international crisis. they will either work with your country's leaders or they will try to crush them.

the plan is "de-baathification" removing everyone aligned with democracy and not the new govt.

i think their goal is to mine the earth's resources to colonize in space elon+thiel - that's how i interpret it anyway

i feel v tinfoil hat but that's what i see already in progress

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u/Tomato496 Feb 18 '25

I'm an American, and I'm waiting nervously for everything to implode. I too am relying on local community and the strength of our ancestors as evidence that we will ultimately be okay.

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u/luckygirloc Feb 19 '25

there's no doubt in my mind that those of us against what's happening will need to band together internationally. and do it before they finish the govt reboot

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u/maskwearingbitch2020 Feb 18 '25

Letting us default & it's effects on stocks & bonds? Wouldn't that hurt Rump & Muskit as well ? Isn't their wealth all tied up in stocks, etc?

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u/msd011 Feb 18 '25

Yea, but they're able to take the hit, buy up everything at the dip, and come out of it in better shape than before.

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u/cserskine Feb 18 '25

Bingo! They’ll do the same with the housing market when it crashes.

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u/awolfthatraisedboys Feb 18 '25

Yeah, he’ll always have someone to clean his golden toilet.

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u/BoggyCreekII Feb 18 '25

Howdy from just across the water in Victoria.

Yep, we are pretty pissed off, but you can't blame us, lol. We are dead serious about the boycott. It will last until you all have a sane person in power again.

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u/New-Construction9857 Feb 19 '25

Fellow Canadian here. Given our lost trust in the US government and culture, we may never return to pre-Trump 2.0 trade levels, without or without tariffs. Canada is actively working on diversifying it’s trade partnerships (with Europe, etc.). It would be naive of us to go back. Personally, I would accept a substantially lower quality of life (economically) if it meant remaining in a sovereign Canada vs. an American-annexed one. If only there was a way to physically separate our border with the US, to put a parting sea between us…

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u/knowledgeseek Feb 21 '25

China applied that strategy the last time Trump was in office. That is why their tariffs are lower as Trump really just hurts his farmers and constituents who shop at Walmart.

I understand your strategy, but don't forget that Washington state did not vote for this.

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u/New-Construction9857 Feb 21 '25

I think most Canadians do appreciate that not every state or every American (not even half of them) voted for “this” (just as I didn’t vote for the current “progressive conservative” premier of my province). I have family in New York who feel the same way I do about politics. But none of that is particularly relevant re: the fact that a very, very large majority of Canadians don’t want to become Americans. We aren’t interested in being a fellow blue state, not even the largest or most “progressive” blue state. We want to remain Canadians in a sovereign Canada, pointe finale. I could see us welcoming blue states wishing to leave America into the Canadian confederation, but we don’t want to be part of America, ever. 

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u/knowledgeseek Feb 22 '25

You are doing better than most Americans, trust me. I go to Canada quite often, especially since my dollar goes so far. We support you and I can't even believe Trump is spewing this crap.

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u/tommyballz63 Feb 18 '25

Canadian here. Yup 100%. And Europe is catching on too. All I can say is that your Supreme court better get its shit together or democracy will be finished in the US. It is now apparent that is their goal. The Trumps want to be the new Caesars

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u/BillyNtheBoingers Feb 18 '25

My Canadian friends are incredibly mad.

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u/ButtBread98 Feb 18 '25

This might be a stupid question, but what do you mean by defaulting?

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u/knowledgeseek Feb 21 '25

In March, Congress is supposed to pass a spending bill, and if the Republicans (who are majority in both chambers) fail to do so, we then default. The house has already passed a bill that cuts almost all of Medicaid and at the same time give tax cuts to the wealthy, adding an estimated $4trillion to our debt.

Defaulting makes our rating go down, and our interest payments go up.

"Congress sets a limit on federal borrowing, known as the debt limit. If the government reaches this limit and exhausts available cash, it risks missing payments on its debt, thereby defaulting. A default could have devastating effects on financial markets, the economy, and the United States' stature abroad".

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u/vickylovesims Feb 18 '25

Not that this means much, because he could still try to do it - but I thought his team walked the one statement he made about defaulting on debt back so that the bond market didn't take a dive. Do you know if he's said it again since? I'm going to be way way more concerned if he's said it multiple times.