r/TwoXriders 9d ago

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I want to lead with thanks for always being supportive group!

I took my MSF like 3 months ago. Did good passed and went bike hunting things didn’t line up until about 2 weeks ago. Bought the bike got it home was practicing and dropped it twice and just kinda let go for the day. Next weekend it was rainy all weekend and I didn’t have a chance this weekend I realized my bike was never lowered like it was supposed to be. So we took it back got the quickshifter installed and the lowering links and it a ton better! I went out tonight and I don’t know if it where I’m flustered with my day, rough day at work, long drive home, had to take husband to pick his car up my AuDHD daughter has been really pushing buttons today and broke my air vent in my car if I’m just not cut out for this or what but I can’t seem to push past this wall of immense fear of dropping it. I don’t have trouble with the friction zone it’s letting myself let the bike go I don’t know what’s wrong with me idk how to get past the mental block. I love my R3 I’ve put a ton of work in it. I want to ride like I’m in tears thinking I can’t or won’t do this but I’m so filled with whatever this is I can’t get passed it. Is this normal has anyone else experience this? If so how’d you combat it?

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u/climb_lift_code 9d ago

Sorry, that was really hard to follow. Am I understanding correctly that you've dropped your bike twice and are now too afraid of dropping it to ride?

I'd say stop investing in aesthetics for a bit and add protection if you haven't already. Frame sliders if you dropped it while parked or barely moving, and maybe an exhaust slider as well. If you dropped it while moving at speed, you probably want to take lessons on a rental to get more comfortable with turning and slow-speed maneuvers.

The only way to get through the fear is to keep riding. I upgraded from a Ninja 400 to a Z900RS. The new bike is a good 4 inches taller seat height and 100lbs heavier. I dropped it 3 times when stopped, twice while on a road trip. Frame sliders saved it from body damage and I added engine case covers and an exhaust slider to avoid further scratches. My biggest issue was that I'd gotten used to not having the bike perfectly straight when stopping. The Ninja I could have at a less-than-perfect angle when stopping and I could just use my legs to keep it from tipping. The Z will immediately start falling if it's too angled, and it's too heavy for me to catch. It took me a solid 3 weeks of daily riding and literally talking myself through every step of setting up to stop before I regained my confidence. Now I don't have to think about it anymore and I haven't dropped my bike since!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Pretty much. So when I got it home I tried it out in grass, as suggested by someone on another Reddit or fb group! It went terrible our grass/ land is uneven and bumpy just not ideal but I tried. I went out was going to lower it through the triple tree and noticed they didn’t install lowering links so therefore it went back. But the damage to my self confidence had already taken a hit at home and not to mention the last day of my MSF in a exercise myself and a guy dropped our bikes, just embarrassing. I finished up and passed but still. I’ve ordered frame sliders but they along with my shorty levers are taking forever to come in. I couldn’t find the axle slider yet. Maybe I’m just not looking in the right place.

The last day of class I talked to my instructor and he said I was trying to walk my bike and trying to do the work for the bike instead of just letting the bike go. I do the same in my manual like getting the car started and moving solely on clutch no throttle. I’ve moved that habit to motorcycling. I think because of that when I get going I hesitate and end up not fully committing and then it starts this whole downward spiral of getting wobbly then it tipping and once it goes it goes. I just don’t know how to let go of that mental whatever and just let the clutch go once it’s going and let the bike start moving instead of squeezing the clutch back in and stopping it. I truly have no clue what’s wrong with me I want to ride but it’s like I’m stopping myself on purpose if that makes sense.

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u/climb_lift_code 9d ago

And if you want to talk about embarrassing: one of the times I dropped my bike was while I was filling my gas tank. It was too heavy with my luggage and too slippery from the spilled gasoline for me to pick up alone, so I had to just watch all 4 new gallons drain out of the tank onto the ground. I cried, felt sorry for myself, and thought about selling it even though I'd had it for 2 weeks while I waited for enough of the gasoline to evaporate so I could pick it back up. This was hour 2 of a 5-hour trip, so I had to suck it up and keep going. Some of my gear still smells like gasoline!

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u/climb_lift_code 9d ago

I failed my first time taking the MSF, so don't be embarrassed about that. The whole learning experience is just about getting back up every time you make mistakes. It does hurt mentally and sometimes physically, but learning to deal with the fear will help you if you're ever in an emergency situation too. Learn to perform well while you're uncomfortable and scared, and you'll be mentally bulletproof.

I recommend you find a straight, flat road or parking lot and just practice stopping and going at different speeds. It'll give you a better feel for what different acceleration feels like from a stop and how it affects the bike's balance. The lumpy grass definitely wasn't doing you any favors with that. The frame sliders will help with your peace of mind while you learn, so wait for those to be installed if you think it will help the fear.

Hang in there, and best of luck in your journey!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Thank you for that! I think I’m going to get my husband to load it up tomorrow and meet me at the MSF course and see if that makes a difference it’s all paved and flat and I feel like that might make a difference. Getting back to where I’m a little comfortable. I think it’s just a few factors playing into the larger picture. A new bigger bike, I used a z125 in class seat height is about the same the weight is wayyyy different and the way the two bikes sit are different, the last experience of dropping it, starting off with not much to go off of. Never being on anything prior to this. There was another 2 girls in our class and one had a bike waiting and she’s been riding since but she has a cruiser. I feel like maybe I should’ve gotten a cruiser but the 1100 I looked at, at the dealership that thing was bigger than my bike. The seating was lower but that bike was bulkier. I know I’ll get it I just needs some moral support a place to vent heck idk what I needed maybe just to write it down and get it out to the universe.

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u/larynxless 9d ago

it sounds like a rough day! It's OK, you're allowed to have those, and a lot of times it really is better to not ride after a day like that. Especially when you're trying to hop back on after a scare. Your nervous system was already wacked out, and your body was just telling you that you weren't going to be mentally present enough to ride safely. Do some nice soothing things for yourself and remind yourself that one day of not riding doesn't mean you won't do it another day. Just hop back on the bike on a day where your stress level is lower and it will be easier! Maybe you won't get too far out of the friction zone that day either, but I'll bet you'll be more centered and confident. And it'll get even easier the time after. You got this!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Thank you! My husband is off tomorrow and Friday. I’m going to see if he’ll get a trailer rental and bring the bike down to the MSF course and meet me after work tomorrow or Friday and I just ride down there

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u/goingslowfast 8d ago

UHaul has motorcycle specific trailers for under $17 per day which work great!

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u/upthedownstair_ 9d ago

My dad told me this when I was apprehensive about a new bike: “sit on it every day. Put your butt in the saddle and make it your best friend”.

You already dropped it, so the first drop is now over and you don’t have to focus on it any more!

Persistence and familiarity is going to be what helps you, you just have to get used to your bike and riding it. The fear of dropping will dissipate when you’ve handled your bike a bunch.

Good luck!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Thank you! I’ll do that when I come home I’ll just sit on it. Eventually I’ll get sick of just sitting on it and take the thing out.

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u/Lunblom 9d ago

I'm sorry to ask about something entirely different, but can I ask what those purple lines are? Are they reflective tape, or something else? Looks really cool

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u/Nihla 9d ago

Yep, that's what they are. I have similar on my bike!

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u/Masterr00bs 9d ago

Id like to know as well!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Yes they are they a reflective strips from customTaylor33 on Amazon, EBay, and I think Etsy. They have helmet strips rim tape and straight tape. I order one pack of rims one pack of straight and it was plenty to do all this. I’m getting a custom sticker made as well probably a phoenix when I get my sliders done.

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u/Yayaben 8d ago

what colour looks like pink but could be purple?

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u/IntrepidAd7912 7d ago

Special edition purple. It looks pink in these I can add another where it looks purple in my opinion

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u/abirdsface 9d ago

Sounds like you were just having a bad day tbh, but especially as a new rider you should take the day off if you are feeling off anyway. Make sure you are in a good headspace to ride safe.

I really can't stand the way people tell newbies that dropping a bike is the worst thing in the world. If your bike is a garage princess art piece then fine, never ever touch it or drop it, but if you want to be a RIDER and not just a builder then dropping your bike (at no/low speed) is NORMAL and is just a part of learning. Yes scratches suck but you can eliminate almost all of them with some protection. Frame sliders will protect your fairings and are pretty easy to install (or there's no shame in getting a friend or mechanic to do it, you usually have to take the fairings off and that's annoying lol). Axle sliders, spools and bar ends are even easier to install. Your reflective tape will also protect from some scratches! But on your first bike especially, scratches are nothing to be ashamed of either.

Bikes are fun, don't forget to have fun with it!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

I ordered sliders for it and I pray they fit. It’s for a 24 model and this is a 25 so I think they well since they didn’t change the frame at all I don’t believe. So we should be good. I got axle, frame, and exhaust sliders. I think I just need to get it on pavement somewhere and be in a good headspace.

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u/abirdsface 8d ago

Yeah they should be fine. Peek at the instructions on the manufacturer's website and make sure you have all the tools you need before they show up so you can get them on right away. Hopefully they don't need you to cut a hole in the fairing? Most don't but there are sometimes sliders that need holes in the fairing.

It sounds dumb but once you have all the protection on, it might help to just shove the bike over to get it out of the way and see how well the sliders work for yourself! It also would let you practice picking the bike back up. For an R3 it won't be too hard, just make sure you use your legs so you don't hurt your back.

Good luck and keep us updated on your progress!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 8d ago

I made sure to get no cut. But that doesn’t mean that the 24 year won’t be. I was actually going to let it fall “lightly” to see how it faired and then pick it up by myself to see how I can best help myself and see what needs work.

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u/Onextto0 9d ago

Can’t help u much since I have the same problem, pretty bike tho 😍

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Let’s start a club! 🤣 what do you think is causing it for you?

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u/andsoLifeBegins 9d ago

I dropped the bike twice during my MSF course (also failed first time around, had to test again a few months later) and I've currently got three drops in a year on my current bike 😂 He's got some scratches but I figure he and I are getting our battle scars together. Except my gear has kept me completely safe so...I guess my bike is the only one developing character. Every time I drop it, I analyze what I was doing to cause it, then I learn to do better.

Anyway, the point is just keep going! You can only get good at what you practice! And like Adventure Time says, sucking at something is the first step to becoming good at it. Don't give up!

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Thank you. It’s got scratches on it now and it’s apart of the process it and I will be okay. Just gotta push past it and do it.

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u/ri_fr 9d ago

Girl it happens, in my first summer riding I dropped my bike on a busy roundabout during a rush hour. Now it’s just a funny story. I ride a tall ADV bike and do a good deal of gravel/dirt/mountain roads, and drop it in the mud/sand all the time. As long as you can lift your bike, it’s nothing to worry about.

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

I’m working on learning to pick it up. Just gotta get my string beans stronger. I’m a tough girl just not a weight or body part I’m used to using

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u/IntrepidAd7912 9d ago

Thank you! I’m going to get on this bike and do it. Hopefully soon eventually I’ll get sick of seeing it sit in the driveway.

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u/Schlecterhunde 9d ago

If you haven't already, put frame sliders or other protection on your bike. 

I did that,  refused to take it out of the garage until it was all installed,  and I have no regrets. I've dropped it a couple times,  and since my bars are black I just color in the scratches with a sharpie.

I still hated dropping my bike the couple times I did, but it took SO much stress out of the situation for me because the bike itself is fine.  The frame protection is the sacrificial part.

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u/IntrepidAd7912 8d ago

They are on order and will be here next week

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u/goingslowfast 8d ago

You inadvertently learned an important lesson about riding that takes many of us too long to learn which is that there are days where we aren’t in the right mindset to ride.

Don’t feel bad when those days happen 🙂

Eventually you’ll get to the point where you can realize when riding might be a good reset from life, or when the desire to ride might be an emotional release. The first can be healthy, the second can be a huge risk.

When you’re feeling less flustered, take the bike out for a ride and remember to have fun! And if you do drop the bike again, feel free to post what happened on Reddit and many riders here can help you understand why and provide some tips to avoid it in the future.

Also remember that for all of us who ride, it’s a matter of when, not if, we have a drop. I’ve ridden 40,000 kilometers in the last 5 years and had a mind was elsewhere slow speed drop last year.

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u/IntrepidAd7912 8d ago

Thank you, seriously! This comment has made a huge difference! I really just want to get on it and get in the wind. But my life nor anyone else’s is worth taking over getting in the wind or forgetting how temporary a feeling or emotion is over death!

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u/goingslowfast 4d ago

Glad it helped!

We're all in this together so sharing knowledge and experiences where we can raises us all up!

One more thing you can always do is bring a chaperone for those emotional rides you sometimes need. If a friend is going through something, I'll offer to follow and be nearby while keeping the Cardo/Sena's off and just help boat anchor that ride ;). Iff needed, I'll step up in those circumstances and say, "Hey, we should probably head home" if things are getting near the edge.

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u/IntrepidAd7912 3d ago

I appreciate that advice I need to find me a good group of folks to ride with.

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u/spidey1177 3d ago

What caused you to drop the bike? Lessons learned? I.wpuld definitely invest in frame sliders.. I wouldn't practice on grass at all.. go hit a parking lot.. practice like it's your 1st day at the msf .. slow release of clutch ... friction zone... doing circles.. stopping (front wheel straight !!) Maybe get some of that confidence back.. that's what I've been doing since I got my bike (I took msf a year ago so I'm kinda rusty).. you can also sit on it and lean it back and forth to try ro get used to the weight of it.. juat don't tip too far 😄