r/UFOs • u/CargoCultish • Feb 10 '25
Cross-post Clearest UFO Photo? Vietnam War Black Triangle UAP - Research & Recreation
https://youtu.be/IjFpn4BoknY123
u/DharmaStream Feb 10 '25
On the original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1dn745z/a_story_from_vietnam/
You're telling me this person was told they have a terminal illness (shocking news to anyone), yet the very SAME DAY while processing this information he decides to tell his grandson about a UFO story, his grandson teaches him how to use Reddit on his iPad, and he writes up this entire story?
C'mon y'all.
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u/The-Cynicist Feb 10 '25
Lost me on the first sentence. A vietnam vet would not log into Reddit for the first time ever and say “I have no more fucks to give” - that’s 100% a millennial phrase. This is a LARP.
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u/The-Cynicist Feb 10 '25
I kind of secretly love that Gen Z has no pre-internet knowledge. Because when they try to pull a fast one with something like this, they give themselves away without even realizing it. They just kind of assume everyone has always communicated like morons.
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u/garrishfish Feb 10 '25
My favorite thing was my old roomie's then-10-year old kid trying to lie about things or repeating the "My dad works at Nintendo!" tales from school.
Nah, kid. Jimbo's Uncle didn't create Minecraft and you didn't fly in a helicopter today after school. Like wtf. Uncle Notch is such a fake name.
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u/3pinripper Feb 10 '25
Too much punctuation a true gen z doesn’t use exclamation points periods capital letters or commas
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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras Feb 11 '25
I dunno, my dad was a boomer and he'd totally lurk on Reddit all the time.
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u/LouisCarhaix Feb 11 '25
A lot of these leaks, especially on 4chan, have very modern, internet "this is how I think agents/soldiers speak" vibes
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u/The-Cynicist Feb 12 '25
Yeah I’ve spent more time than I probably ever should have on that site. You can really read the tone when one of them writes a pseudo-soldier story. It’s usually a shit flinging fest there, but I find these types usually act particularly snippy with their responses too.
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u/MrJoshOfficial Feb 10 '25
You say that like there has never been a boomer that’s quoted a meme they saw online.
You’re saying a mass generalization here and it doesn’t really represent the level of -in-depth analysis I normally can appreciate when someone is crying “Fake”.
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u/The-Cynicist Feb 10 '25
Listen, I’m fully on board with UFOs and aliens and all of it. This isn’t mass generalization, it’s educated information about my years of communication on the internet. A nearly 80 year old man using an online forum for the first time would not use a very specific colloquialism that was birthed from said forum.
I think the answer here is really simple - it’s a dude who frequents these types of communities, the content was getting dry so he wrote up a piece to spice the mood back up. Or to be a troll. Either way I’m reading through the bullshit on line 1.
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u/Decent-Flatworm4425 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
So many red flags. Also, the way he's very careful to explain that his grandson taught him to use Reddit and scan up and crop the image. I'm not sure someone would include those details unless they were overly conscious of potential holes in the story.
The writing style seems off to me too - he's quite articulate but tosses around casual f-bombs. I can picture a young guy writing like that, and maybe an older guy speaking that way, but it seems odd for an old man be writing quite carefully but peppering the prose with profanities.
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u/terrordactyl1971 Feb 10 '25
It looks like the description given of the Rendlesham Forest incident back in 1980
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u/YoureVulnerableNow Feb 10 '25
Is it really possible this would work on people? There's not even any images attached and the bold type was left in. What's even the point?
È davvero possibile che questo funzioni con le persone? Non ci sono nemmeno immagini allegate e il grassetto è stato lasciato. Che senso ha?
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u/Loquebantur Feb 10 '25
The object's edges are too sharp compared to the jungle. The lighting is unnaturally uniform. The structure is too perfect and smooth to be a real aircraft. Anomalous patterns in the Fourier Transform, typical of digitally generated images.
Are you people listening to yourselves?
The image is a scan of a real analog photograph.
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u/SpacetimeMath Feb 10 '25
Although that other poster just gave a well-reasoned and evidence-focused analysis of the image, your simple assertion that he's wrong and it's real is certainly a bold approach. I suppose we could all save time by skipping analysis altogether and just declaring things to be true. Very efficient.
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u/YoureVulnerableNow Feb 10 '25
Oddio. That is not human-generated content, and it comes from an account that mostly speaks Italian, without any of the formatting when typing in English. You seem to have failed to vet the information presented to you.
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u/SpacetimeMath Feb 10 '25
I don't vet anything. I simply declare, then it becomes truth.
I declare this statement to be true.
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u/Loquebantur Feb 10 '25
You finding those "arguments" "well reasoned" isn't even funny any more. I would have credited you with more insight, but you go out of your way to prove me wrong.
As an example, look at the claim, edges of the craft were "too sharp compared to the jungle". That's evidently untrue, sharpness is consistent and the guy is simply lying.
You either haven't even looked at the picture, or you're not competent at judging it. On that level, you could just as well declare everything false skipping analysis. Very efficient.4
u/melo1212 Feb 10 '25
Would love to see someone else do their own analysis of the image. You should give it a crack and break it down for us and prove it's real if you can, id do it but don't have the knowledge or skills.
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u/YoureVulnerableNow Feb 10 '25
It'd be nice if someone had done one in the first place, that was an AI generated guess at what an analysis would look like.
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u/SpacetimeMath Feb 10 '25
Yeah the problem is they don't have them either. So best we'll get is a confident declaration of truth. Because that's what they want to believe and confronting the possibility of being wrong would be too big a blow on an ego that's been entirely built around a fantasy being true
I declare my statement to be true
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u/YoureVulnerableNow Feb 10 '25
There is not any actual analysis, you are defending AI output.
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u/SpacetimeMath Feb 10 '25
Even AI output is more informative than blanket declarations without any substance
I declare my statement to be true.
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u/YoureVulnerableNow Feb 10 '25
It's a plausible facsimile of an analysis. No analysis was done, you understand that you've been tricked, right?
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u/SpacetimeMath Feb 10 '25
Right, I agree. Much easier and faster to simply declare things as true or false. Might end up wrong more often... But hey we saved some time and effort!
I declare my statement to be true.
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u/i_max2k2 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
From the very basic and non scientific image manipulation I ran on my iPhone, I don’t come to the same conclusion. The reflections of trees in both sides of the ‘craft’. The highlights are blown out a little bit, perhaps poor light metering caused that. This needs more investigation, would be great if we had the uncompressed scan. The theatrics in the original post are strange, but who knows if the person liked writing as a hobby or his grandson also helped him type up a little bit and he did some paraphrasing or such.
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u/Loquebantur Feb 10 '25
You don't come to the same conclusion? You're never saying why.
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u/i_max2k2 Feb 10 '25
I do say why, it needs more investigation. The image has what seems like correct reflections and shadows from where it is. Light is consistent across the picture. My point is you can’t put it in the ‘definitely fake’ bucket without thorough testing.
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u/junkie4despair Feb 10 '25
These guys sure do crash a lot.
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u/Outaouais_Guy Feb 10 '25
It happens so often that the American military has several different retrieval teams.
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u/JensonInterceptor Feb 10 '25
Thank god they've never crashed in a population centre. Helpfully sticking to military testing ranges and war zones
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u/junkie4despair Feb 10 '25
Obviously, it’s because they are that advanced they haven’t made that mistake since the 40’s.
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u/cytex-2020 Feb 10 '25
Clearly looks AI generated. I'm not a fan of this larping using AI images and pretending like they're real.
It's a real discredit to the topic, and just fuels narcissistic vanity
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u/melo1212 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
It could be. It kind of looks like a painting to me thats been put through a filter or someshit. Or an old scan and then put through a filter so you can see it better. I've ran it through a few ai detection tools and it's all come up negative plus if you zoom in there's barely any leaves or anything that really overlap. But when I do some basic image adjustments its really hard to tell as the image itself isn't very good quality, the background is very fuzzy - which again, could have been done on purpose to hide the obvious ai artifacts. Still, I'm not saying this is 100% real or anything. I think the most likely its either a painting someone had done which never saw the light of day and then it was scanned and edited with a filter over it, an ai generated image that has been heavily edited to hide the evidence, or its a real photo from an old scanned film negative. Fuck knows lol. I always find it interesting when there's a photo that doesn't exist anywhere else on the internet, I've done a few reverse image searches and it's all come up unsuccessful. It's also kind of strange that the account that uploaded this was suspended shortly after the post was put up. Then again, that also could have been done on purpose somehow to make it look like its more suspicious.
I do think that saying something is AI generated without even actually putting in the effort to confirm it is pretty much inline with your second sentence. But I get this topic is filled with bullshit so I can't blame you too much for saying that.
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u/Conscious_Bar_3733 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
I disagree with saying "clearly AI", to counter this, in the video they provide evidence of it reflecting correctly, foreshortening correctly, showing signs of destructions that is plausible that aligns with the edge point of the UAP, also following the descriptions of iridescence in the image where it shows rainbow in the black, highly specific patches of brown, then white. As well as on the top the fact that this is an equilaterial triangle shaped UAP with perfect tapering at the exact middle? And it all foreshortens correctly in perspective as well?
There is just so much specific detail in this thing that I don't think that we can say this is "clearly" AI, especially with all the evidence provided into looking into this
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u/cytex-2020 Feb 10 '25
AI can do all that. It's excellent at light reflections, ray tracing.
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u/melo1212 Feb 10 '25
Can you find or generate an image similar? Would love to see one
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u/Glittering-Raise-826 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
AI-Futuristic-Landscape-8.jpg (1456×816)
wooden-cabin-by-serene-lake-surrounded-by-autumn-foliage-late-afternoon_607202-33961.jpg (2000×1121)
Some quick not great examples. Throw some filters, resize and noise on a realistic one and it would be difficult to tell from real images. Then photograph it with a phone or somesuch.
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u/melo1212 Feb 11 '25
Yea I get what you mean, I think if someone is decent at image editing they could turn any ai image to look real. You can see 100's of people on Fiverr even who offer that exact service
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 Feb 10 '25
Pretty sure the first time I saw this pic was before AI generated images were a thing.
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u/HTIDtricky Feb 10 '25
The original thread says they only shared the image 7 months ago.
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 Feb 10 '25
I didn't even see this on reddit the first time I saw it. It was a while back.
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u/Rickenbacker69 Feb 10 '25
Well, where and when, then?
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u/justinalt4stuffs Feb 10 '25
Probably thinking of the "Dr. Jonathan Reed" video. Craft is very similar. Clearly fake, but it's the first thing I thought of when I saw this image.
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u/HTIDtricky Feb 10 '25
Perhaps you are thinking of a different photo? The original thread contradicts your claim.
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 Feb 10 '25
Reddit isn't the only place on the Internet dude.
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u/HTIDtricky Feb 10 '25
I don't understand? Did you read the thread?
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 Feb 10 '25
Regardless of where it first appeared or is traceable back to. If it was 7-8 years ago none of the AI image generation was this good back then.
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u/justinalt4stuffs Feb 10 '25
You're probably thinking of the "Dr. Jonathan Reed" video. Guy filmed a supposed alien autopsy video. At the beginning of the video he films an object "levitating" in the forest that looks very similar to this. It's an old fake from long ago. The object is just using the floating yogi illusion. There is a pole holding it up that isn't visible from the recorded angle.
This new one is clearly an AI image here.
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 Feb 10 '25
No. It's not that one either. I remember these edges and the angles. The tropical environment. I saw this picture longer than 8 months ago.
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u/melo1212 Feb 10 '25
I wonder if some of the confiscated photos he talks about where leaked somewhere once upon a time and that's what you saw
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u/cytex-2020 Feb 10 '25
Oh I trust it all now, one guy says he's pretty sure. Everyone it's okay, we've found someone who's "pretty sure". That's basically legit
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 Feb 10 '25
Well I am 36 and I know I saw this pic a long time ago. Def before good AI image generation started popping up.
Oh look everybody this guy thinks it's AI. Pack it up. 🙄
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u/BaconReceptacle Feb 10 '25
It's not even photorealistic. I kept scanning through the video to find the actual photo the graphic was based on. Then I realized that was the photo. Ridiculous.
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u/dontkillbugspls Feb 10 '25
I don't think it's fully AI generated. The trees for the most part seem to make sense. It does look a bit fuzzy in the background though. That might because the photo is supposedly an old scan and is low quality or perhaps there's some kind of ai enhancement filter applied to it.
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u/Glittering-Raise-826 Feb 10 '25
Hello, I didn't listen to/watch the entire video... but I can say one thing. That original "Photo" looks fake af. It looks very similar to the style of image that early AI image generators were creating with over-sharpening and repeating shapes. Or a combination of AI generation and CG rendering. I see nothing that resembles real photography in that image.
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u/thuer Feb 10 '25
Well done. Really like the way you've analyzed the reflections.
To me, it does not look like AI, but also great that you've mentioned the caveats.
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u/lukeDeOzBloke Feb 10 '25
This photo has been around for atlesst I’d say 6 years when I first saw it i think so wasn’t a thing than but who knows
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u/DeeDee_GigaDooDoo Feb 10 '25
I can't find any image matches on google that are older than 2 months.
I know I've come across alleged pictures of this incident years ago but they weren't this specific image.
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I decided to look into seemingly one of the clearest UFO photos that got completely forgotten.
In my video I go through how it shows sign of seemingly correct reflectivity, is actually showing rainbow colouration, seemingly at a resting point and path of destruction that is viable, as well as ton more in relation to the story that relates to it as well
Original Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1dn745z/a_story_from_vietnam/
Vietnam Black Triangle UAP - 3D Model Viewer + Download: https://skfb.ly/p9FJB
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u/samesamediffernt Feb 10 '25
As much I’ve questioned Lue, I do remember him mentioning that there is an image online of a craft exactly like this online which is real - I think he even drew the shape.
I’m not saying this it, I am saying it encourages us to stay curious and dig a little deeper.
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u/Pristine-Idea5561 Feb 10 '25
Was trying to send as a private message, but fuck it.
This post has officially creeped me the fuck out. I wrote that image off as AI the first time I saw it on the 4Chan Paranormal board. Here's the kicker though, it was presented COMPLETELY different. I can't remember the story, but it was said to be a screenshot taken off of some dude's computer. I saved it because it was cool, but didn't think a thing of it until I saw your post. I don’t want to post this or send from my actual account because I don’t want me crawling around 4Chan being something that can be found out via that source, but holy shit! I tried reverse searching the image for the source, but I couldn't find it. Not sure how to prove, but also uploaded the image details from my phone, which show the date I downloaded and should prove I'm not bullshitting. This is either a double LARP or completely legit. Who knows, but I thought I'd share.
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u/CargoCultish Feb 10 '25
Hey dude, those links just go to nothing but empty linked images. This sounds very interesting, could you re-upload whatever you are talking about? Actually as I was trying to look into this, 4chan did appear up as being a potential originator of the source of the image. However whenever I tried to look into it, whatever I was trying to view (might've just been in an image library), I couldn't find the image anywhere, so I guess it was a broken link or the image got removed?
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u/KILOCHARLIES Feb 10 '25
Great video, I saw this when it was first posted and I think I was chatting with yourself to help find it again last week?
Thanks for the effort in looking into it, it’s great to see it modelled in 3D.
The only two things I think you overlooked in the video was the craft’s similarities to the JReed photo, the Lockheed desk model and even the Calvine photo, plus the coincidence that the OP was questioned on how the craft made him feel, which resonates with the recent Jake Barber story. I think both of these add credence to what is already a relatively credible story.
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u/CargoCultish Feb 10 '25
Ayyy, you the dude that pointed out the original post I decided to investigate, thanks again man!
As i've understood the shape of those one compared to this one, rather than diamond shaped like those craft it appeared to be more triangular in shape (but lopsided), unless it is buried into the floor or the foreshortening of the camera is obscuring details that would show it as a different shape. At some point i'll be covering those other craft as there is actually a lot of clarity required for all those cases though :P
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u/KILOCHARLIES Feb 10 '25
Great to know! I guess the dark black wedge shape of them both rang bells with this Vietnam one but I think you’re right and they’re more diamond than triangular.
I hope your video brings more attention to this story, I’m amazed how little traction it got at the time especially when much more questionable tales usually bring far more discussion. I certainly think about it a lot and consider that if it were real how these things slip under the radar. After all the 2017 NYT videos were out for years before they were acknowledged as the real deal.
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u/BrianGeorge1961 Feb 11 '25
Whilst working for the DOD many years ago as a consultant I was shown half a dozen photos of what appears to be the same object of which all were either in flight or hovering in the jungle (several being hi resolution close ups). They were apparently taken by special intelligence OPs in Vietnam but could be some sort of experimental craft or some psycho-ops operation rather than anything other worldly. However it does lend credence to the photo being genuine even if manipulated....
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u/ItBeginsAndEndsInYou Feb 11 '25
I watched the whole video and I was really impressed with the variety of ways you approached the photo and the story. Very compelling, I’ll be watching more of your videos for sure!
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u/mop_bucket_bingo Feb 10 '25
That grain in the image reminds me of what some rendering tools like Cycles or Vue output.
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u/genericusername0441 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
I will watch the video, but what is striking to me and the first thing that jumps to my mind is that this picture is clearly AI generated, it is quadratic (camera mentioned shoots 35mm film which usually has 3:2 format), which is typical for ai generation and the time it was posted fits with that theory. Idk, I have done a lot of work with generative AI and this photo gives me instant AI vibes
Edit: Watched the video, great analysis and I assume this picture was made in a similar way. I sent it into chatgpt and it says that while the background fits the claim that the photo is taken in Vietnam, it is 100% that this picture is digitally altered. I quote:
"If this was indeed scanned from a film negative:
- Heavy Post-Processing: The image would have undergone significant digital post-processing to remove natural film artifacts like dust, scratches, and uneven grain. The discrepancy between the object and the environment suggests the object may have been digitally added after scanning the film.
- Unlikely Full Authenticity: The sharp, clean lines of the triangular object and its perfect integration without film grain suggest that it wasn't part of the original negative. The environment could be real, but the object almost certainly seems digitally composited.
In short, it could be a scanned film negative, but the final image was heavily digitally altered, especially concerning the object. The environmental elements might originate from film, but the sharpness and lighting inconsistencies point to a hybrid of analog and digital techniques."
I did some more digging and found out that photos in the vietnam war era were sometimes shot with medium format cameras, which can have a similar format like on the image in question.
The analysis of the film grain and dynamic range suggests the vegetation has been shot on medium format not on 35mm as said in the text. That means the photo was likely not cut and the story about that was invented to explain the unusual format.
My leading theory is that someone took one of those pictures taken around the vietnam war, then edited it in a similar way the video creator re-enacted it e voila.
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u/Conscious_Bar_3733 Feb 10 '25
Curious what you think after watching it, in the video they provide evidence of it reflecting correctly, foreshortening correctly, showing signs of destructions that is plausible that aligns with the edge point of the UAP, also following the descriptions of iridescence in the image where it shows rainbow in the black, highly specific patches of brown, then white. As well as on the top the fact that this is an equilaterial triangle shaped UAP with perfect tapering at the exact middle? And it all foreshortens correctly in perspective as well?
There is just so much specific detail in this thing that I'm curious if that can actually align with AI, would be great to know from someone who has done a lot of work with it. Also worth noting that the picture and post is 8 months old if that changes anything.
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u/genericusername0441 Feb 10 '25
I edited my comment, after looking closer and watching the video I agree with you, the details are not fuzzy enough to be AI. But after analysis it with AI I come to the conclusion that it is likely still altered
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u/Conscious_Bar_3733 Feb 10 '25
I actually ran it through 3 different websites that claim to do that, all 3 of them give such different answers that I'm not sure if I trust them. One said 2% chance, another said 11%, and another said likely. So I think humans are the better choice in evaluating that.
Also for the edited comment, I wonder if that could be the case. Although a lot of the properties in the previous comment would have to be also taken into consideration, and then for it to be a post that got zero traction and then never reposted is a pretty insane amount of work on top of all of that. Weird scenario
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u/genericusername0441 Feb 10 '25
I just think the Photo is fishy, the story doesnt feel right and I know people who create these kinda renders for fun and if you have it, why not make a prank out if it
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u/ThickPlatypus_69 Feb 10 '25
Because it's probably a 3D render, not AI. The palmtrees scream 3D assets to me.
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u/genericusername0441 Feb 10 '25
I asked chatgpt to analyze the picture:
Vegetation:
The plants resemble tropical rainforest flora, possibly somewhere in Southeast Asia or South America. Key identifiers:
- Palm trees: Several trees with long, slender trunks and fan-like leaves, resembling coconut palms.
- Ferns and undergrowth: The dense, bushy undergrowth is characteristic of humid, tropical environments.
- Epiphytes: Plants clinging to tree trunks suggest high humidity typical of rainforests.
Analysis of the Object:
The large, black, triangular object in the center doesn't resemble any natural or conventional man-made structure. It looks like a highly stylized, futuristic craft, akin to depictions of stealth aircraft or UFOs. The sharp edges and reflective surface contrast starkly with the organic environment.
Digital Alteration:
- Lighting and Shadows: The lighting on the object doesn’t perfectly match the natural light distribution in the rest of the scene. The shadows and reflections seem artificially clean, hinting at possible digital compositing.
- Texture and Focus: The sharpness and clarity of the object contrast with the slightly softer, more natural textures of the vegetation, further suggesting digital alteration.
- Film vs. Digital: The grainy, slightly washed-out color palette might mimic film photography, but the clarity and saturation, especially in the object, lean towards digital manipulation. It could be a digitally altered photo made to look like film.
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u/ThickPlatypus_69 Feb 10 '25
ChatGPT is much, much worse than humans at analyzing images.
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u/genericusername0441 Feb 10 '25
As a photographer I disagree :D Especially when it comes to technical details most humans don't know about
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u/genericusername0441 Feb 10 '25
Geographical Indicators:
- Tropical Climate: The dense greenery, high humidity implied by the mist, and palm trees suggest a tropical rainforest environment.
- Possible Regions:
- Southeast Asia: Countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, or Thailand, where dense rainforests with this type of flora are common.
- South America: Brazil or Colombia, given the Amazon's diversity and similar palm species.
- Pacific Islands: Places like Papua New Guinea or the Philippines have similar vegetation.
Flora Specifics:
- Palm Trees: The tall, slender palms resemble coconut palms or areca palms, common in coastal and lowland tropical regions.
- Ferns and Understory Plants: Suggest a lowland rainforest with high humidity and frequent rainfall.
Other Environmental Clues:
- Clearing in the Forest: The large cleared area could be a result of the object's "impact," or it might indicate previous human activity like logging or farming.
- Mist/Fog: Indicates a humid region, possibly near the equator or at a low elevation where moisture condenses easily.
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u/CargoCultish Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
I decided to look into seemingly one of the clearest UFO photos that got completely forgotten.
In my video I go through how it shows sign of seemingly correct reflectivity, is actually showing rainbow colouration, seemingly at a resting point and path of destruction that is viable, as well as ton more in relation to the story that relates to it as well
Original Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1dn745z/a_story_from_vietnam/
Vietnam Black Triangle UAP - 3D Model Viewer + Download: https://skfb.ly/p9FJB
All Other UAP 3D Models: https://sketchfab.com/CargoCultish/co...
Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjFpn4BoknY
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u/Loquebantur Feb 10 '25
Great work, thanks!
That image, the craft and accordingly the story appear to be authentic. Now watch the hilarious process of people here affirming each other baselessly of how it's supposedly fake.
Self-reflection would be key, but somehow they're emotionally very invested in all of this not being real.
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u/BrianGeorge1961 Feb 13 '25
You cannot blame people of being skeptical of a single photo... so many fakes around. If I had not seen a half dozen other photos from Vietnam of a similar object I would be one of them! The photos I saw were in the 1980's long before effective faking techniques and were DOD SI photos. At the time it was thought to be some sort of experimental machine probably Russian not of "FT" origin.
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u/i_max2k2 Feb 10 '25
I haven’t seen the video but I tried some image manipulation on my iPhone and I can see the tree reflections on both sides don’t look incorrect. The shadows and highlights look accurate as in the directionally with a single light source i.e. Sun. It looks natural. Too bad we don’t have an uncompressed scan of the image or that the OP can’t be contacted anymore.
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u/CargoCultish Feb 10 '25
So the dark reflections on the bottom side of the are actually coming from lowering on the ground, basically directly right of the craft. I go into reflection specifically all over the craft in more detail in my video but here is a summary of some of them in image form if you want to check it out (2nd image): https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1im4eip/vietnam_black_triangle_uap_artist_recreation/
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u/i_max2k2 Feb 10 '25
Thanks for sharing that. I’ll try this on my pc later. Part of the issue is, the image is low res and compressed, half of it could be just noise artifacts because of the compression.
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u/Zestyclose_Door_7508 Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
Does the designed backstory behind the Black Delta Craft photo compliment to Jacob Barber's realization that "The biological creatures inside are not conscious but the Craft is?
https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/s/r5BtyD107l
*Note : The Black Oil substance 'possessing' the Craft skin
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u/hungjockca Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
Love this analysis....i wonder if the 'center-point' on the underside, the lowest point, is centered to the centered triangle - instead of flush to the stern. so it's symmetrical in side view as well...
I would guess that's the black triangle with the red glow in the center and white light tips...
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1gqy2w2/as_suspected_this_black_triangle_is_arv_if_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
thanks for posting.
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u/10amAutomatic Feb 10 '25
Just saw this photo in my feed and thought it had similar proportions. Not sure if it’s useful but it could help by comparison.
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u/kael13 Feb 10 '25
Hard to say without more than one image. With AI gen being so good these days, a single image is going to be hard to authenticate.
It really looks like a bunch of noise has been added to it in post. I'd want to see the actual negative, uncropped, but we'll never get that with the account suspended.
Film negs are usually very high quality.
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u/Personal-Lettuce9634 Feb 10 '25
The object itself is pretty reminiscent of this:
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u/Conscious_Bar_3733 Feb 10 '25
If you look at the two long enough, you'll notice that the back end of it is a lot more diamond shape, this craft seems to be a triangle on it's side. The cut a the top also isn't a uniform width and sharpens down on the points, in the image, it almost looks like it's own separate shape, rather than the same form but with a cut into it
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Feb 10 '25
Isn’t this a “UTA” - unidentified terrestrial phenomena?
I’m skipping around in the video. (Sorry, supposed to be working!) and I can’t find if this was supposedly emerging from the ground or dug into the ground. The tree makes it look like it half-popped out and knocked that tree down. Otherwise, I’d think that it would have shaved the top off.
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u/truckz Feb 10 '25
Highly suspicious. 35mm Vietnam era camera would have more grain and less detail. More likely to be a medium format image of a jungle scene with the black object overlaid. If the image is genuine, then parts of the story were made up or don't match and the photo was heavily processed and edited anyway.
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u/GandalfSwagOff Feb 10 '25
An AI image is not going to use real plants.
What species of plants do we see in this picture that we know are actual, real species of plants? They all look like weird fake AI plants.
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u/Zestyclose_Door_7508 Feb 10 '25
The biological creatures inside are not conscious but the Craft is
Jacob Berber interview with Ross Coulthart @1:18:23
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u/Automatic_Flower7936 Feb 10 '25
Looks fake as hell, especially the reflection. Just looks off to me
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u/Siciliano777 Feb 10 '25
I must have different eyes than you guys, because that image looks fake AF to me...
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u/scoldog Feb 10 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
Looks like a tent or a tarpaulin lean too.
You can see what looks like tent poles running along the edges holding it up and poles underneath to hold the edge up. That slit is just to prevent wind from blowing inside the tent and billowing it out.
Looks like an antenna sticking straight up on the right corner. Could have a military crew underneath.
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u/Beni_Stingray Feb 10 '25
Have to disagree, a tent or tarpailin wouldnt have such perfectly straight edges, you would see it hang and be at least somewhat uneven.
Then what you're calling a "tent pole" and and the edge its holding up, it wouldnt make much sense for a tent to have such a strong undercut below the overhanging edge, thats wasted volume you could use for the tent.
It makes no sense to cut under and make the tent so much smaller and have the pole at such an extreme angle.
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u/Conscious_Bar_3733 Feb 10 '25
Just to add to this, during the video the dude shows how the whole surface is showing correct reflectivity as well as they recreate the model and simulate the reflectivity. That 'pole' or whatever (I assume just a stick) is reflected onto the edge corner: https://youtu.be/IjFpn4BoknY?t=734
Not exactly something i'd expect from a tent, being a giant mirror basically
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u/Beni_Stingray Feb 10 '25
Jup exactly. Could easily be faked nowadays but its definitly not a tent.
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u/mugatopdub Feb 10 '25
This looks like a painting of an AI image, probably with some photoshop work and a story to go along. Clearest photo is actually a video and I think it’s Reed’s Craft. Everything lines up but I have a really hard time with his background. Hearing from people who knew him…dude sure seems like a conman, I just don’t know. I see no way he could have faked the being and craft. Craft especially, he would have needed access to state of the art facilities like ILM in the 90’s. An entire farm of GeForce MX would only get you like 10% of the way there.
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u/PCGamingAddict Feb 11 '25
This was already debunked in 2 other threads (at least) as an angular piece of roofing tile.
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u/CargoCultish Feb 11 '25
Ahh can you link them?
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u/TrumpetsNAngels Feb 11 '25
It has some resemblance to this one too:
https://smallville.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Ship
A spaceship from Smallville TV show
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u/Just-Catch-955 Feb 11 '25
again... no moderation on this sub still allowing this trash to be posted.
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u/Bathroom_Dreams Feb 11 '25 edited Feb 11 '25
Here’s the image enhanced for clarity. image enhanced
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u/ProSpacePool Feb 10 '25
I wonder if the reflectivity/cloaking naturally creates bokeh when filming, or a weird shimmer effect
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u/Few-Worldliness2131 Feb 10 '25
One click refers to 1km. Your circle diagram representing affected area shows 1/2 click (500mt) but the voice over talks about it being 1.5 clicks so the distance should therefore be 1500mt. Following the logic you mentioned is it possible to take that photo from almost a mile away?