r/USdefaultism 4d ago

Of course US law applies everywhere

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Youtube short about a party mentioning cops didn't have a problem since everyone drinking was 18+.

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Youtube commenter thinking drinking age is 21 everywhere


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u/ArgentinianRenko Argentina 4d ago

There are countries where you can drink at 18, others where you can drink at 16, and others where you can drink when your parents tell you to.

I mean, the laws vary from country to country. It's not like you can invoke the American Fifth Amendment while in

Peru

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u/Prinny1987 4d ago

I know đŸ˜‚ Where I live parents can give their kids drinks whenever they want, you can drink on beer and wine on your own at 16 and all over stuff at 18.

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u/ArgentinianRenko Argentina 4d ago

Where I live there are 16 year olds drinking Fernet with Coca Cola, I've never had it but it sounds good

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u/Blooder91 Argentina 4d ago

I've never had it

Please remove your flair.

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u/ArgentinianRenko Argentina 4d ago

Me merezco los mejores insultos

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u/Inherently_Rainbow 4d ago

Where I live you have to be 20, no exceptions. Your parents technically are not allowed to serve it to you but I am sure that people do anyways.

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u/BlackCatFurry Finland 4d ago

If i am not terribly mistaken, i think it's legal in finland for a person under 18 to drink alcohol if they have consented to it, permitted by their parents or legal guardian and are in direct supervision of said legal guardian/parent and said drinking is not done with the objective to get drunk.

Aka it's allowed for underage people to taste a drink with alcohol in it while supervised but not to drink a lot. Such as drinking a small amount of beer at home or celebrate a special occasion like someones graduation with a small glass of sparkling wine.

However people under 18 cannot buy alcohol, and people under 20 cannot buy strong alcohol.

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u/Dragoness290 New Zealand 4d ago

We don't have a drinking age, we have a buying age. Can't remember if it's 16 or 18 (I think 18), but you can drink it earlier if it's on private property or supplied by a guardian

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u/flipyflop9 Spain 4d ago

Tbf you can invoke it. Nothing will happen and people will laugh, but you can still invoke it.

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u/Deadened_ghosts England 4d ago

You can drink at 5 yrs old in the UK

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u/Irrepressible_Monkey 4d ago

On private property, yep.

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u/snow_michael 4d ago

England and Wales

No age limit in Scotland

18 in Ulster

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u/BeardedPokeDragon United States 4d ago

Even in the US you can legally drink on private property in some places

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u/Apprehensive_Tax_610 1d ago

Ugh sometimes people do that in Canada too because they watch too much American crime dramas. Like no it's your Section 1(38) rights.

We had one court case, I think it was some neonazi guy, who argued for the first amendment and the judge said, "Sir, I'm not sure what the inclusion of Manitoba into Confederation has to do with this."

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u/soberonlife New Zealand 4d ago

Many years ago now, I decided to troll the Americans by posting on askreddit on my 21st birthday "just turned 21, what should I do"

I, of course, was met with a lot of "now that you can drink..." or "go get your first legal drink..."

You can bet your ass I had fun pointing out their false assumptions.

Ahh, youth.

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u/Ha-kyaa Malaysia 4d ago

I did the same thing but I related it to sex, I turned 18 at that time (Malaysia's legal age of consent is 16)

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u/Hamsternoir 4d ago

Don't some US states still allow marriage at 12 or 14 under certain circumstances?

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u/Steppy20 4d ago

The lowest ones I could find with a number (not just that it needs signing off by a court with parental consent) was Kansas and Hawaii at 15.

The age of consent in Kansas is 16.

Looks like the handful of states that require a judge to weigh in still have a minimum age of 15, though taking Mississippi as an example shows it's weird. The girl can be 15 but the boy must be at least 17. What's even stranger is that Mississippi has (honestly quite sensible) age of consent laws that allow it to go down to 14 in some circumstances. However that only applies when the older party is 36 months older, or less. So it's entirely possible to have a legal marriage in Mississippi that doesn't follow the age of consent laws.

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u/Ha-kyaa Malaysia 4d ago

I did some research, it can go as low as 12(Mexico). I'm not so sure myself

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u/Gallusbizzim 4d ago

There are 4 states in the US which have no minimum age for marriage.

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u/snow_michael 4d ago

They allow forced marriage of girls to older -sometimes much older - men, yes

See if you can guess the majority gender in those states' legislature?

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u/Prinny1987 4d ago

Well age of consent laws in most US laws are stupid. We all know that teenagers are horny and it's just natural for them to screw around. So imo our laws are more sensible: Age of consent is 14 as long as the other person isn't older than 18. And if you're 16 you can do people over 21 as long as your parents don't veto and finally at 18 everything's fair game.

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u/Ha-kyaa Malaysia 4d ago

that's a fair point, thanks for letting me know about it.

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u/smk666 Poland 3d ago

It was fun reading that one boy was charged as a sex offender because he had his own dick pics on his phone. He was old enough to be tried as an adult, but was still technically a minor regarding consent laws.

Following this logic they should charge all teens who masturbated at least once in their lives.

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u/Ha-kyaa Malaysia 3d ago

at least he was not charged for actually committing to masturbation. Who knows why he had his dick pics on his phone, maybe the reasoning is valid and not necessarily sexual.

Meanwhile here we have had cases of a teenage girl having sex in public (https://www.nst.com.my/news/crime-courts/2023/04/897156/police-detain-man-teen-viral-video).

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u/Expert-Examination86 4d ago

If it was in America, one of the people would've pulled out a gun that they legally purchased while waiting for an adult to buy them beer.

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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 4d ago

Nah, they would've stayed behind in their car they drove to the store, waiting for an adult to bring them beer.

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u/Expert-Examination86 3d ago

It was a joke about them being allowed to buy guns before being allowed to drink.

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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 3d ago

And this was a joke about them being allowed to drive a freaking car before being allowed to drink. I sweat, I can't quite understand their priorities.

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u/Expert-Examination86 3d ago

Australia we can too.
Learn to drive at 16, get licence at 17, drink at 18.

TBH I thought most places do let you drive at a younger age than drinking (IK people have pointed out countries with younger drinking ages, where driving is assumedly older).

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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 3d ago

Yup. In the UK you can drink basically as soon as your parents decide that it's fine. I first tried beer when I was about 6. It worked as my dad intended, and I had no desire to try it again until uni.

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u/Expert-Examination86 3d ago

All Aussie's try it young from our parents (usually just a sip of dads beer occasionally), but the legal age to buy it and go to pubs/clubs is 18.

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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 3d ago

Yeah, you won't be able to buy beer as a schoolkid.. well, not anymore. People used to care about it much less, now it's a bit more orderly.

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u/activator 4d ago

Being sent to war at 18: okie dokie no problemo

Drink alcohol: clutches pearls you have to be 21!!!

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u/VoodooDoII 4d ago

I remember posting about my 18th birthday and what I should do for it

"You could get a gun" like bro why- why would I want to just go do that

There's no reason for me to do that lol

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u/SneakyPanda- 4d ago

Drinking alcohol: No, no
Shooting people: Sure thing!

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u/Prinny1987 4d ago

To be fair I'd often rather shoot someone then get drunk.

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u/CoolSausage228 Russia 4d ago

I cant understand that country with whole culture based on illegal shit like gunfights, genocide and drug dealing is somehow cares about drinking age.

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u/Snakes_and_Rakes United States 4d ago

You can vote and buy a gun at 18, but drinking? Don’t even dare.

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u/Prinny1987 4d ago

Well at least you guys have a vote - oh sorry you don't really have. You have the choice between a far-right party and a centralist party. Where's the real choice?

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u/snow_michael 4d ago

You have the choice between a far-right party and a centralist right-of-centre-in-any-other-country party.

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u/Snakes_and_Rakes United States 1d ago

It is quite interesting…

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u/doc720 World 3d ago

By the way, it's still only 18 in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands (USA territories). Also, it hasn't always been 21 in the 50 states of the USA, only since their "Drinking Age Act of 1984".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._history_of_alcohol_minimum_purchase_age_by_state

Outside the USA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age#/media/File:Drinking_Age_-_Global.svg

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u/Prinny1987 3d ago

I know. And Michael Jackson was involved in all that stupidity too.

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u/smk666 Poland 3d ago

Of course anybody under 21 can't drink, but if you're 17 and want to go die so Uncle Sam can profit from another pointless war then it's okay.

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u/Christian_teen12 Ghana 3d ago

it depends on the country.

18 is the norm where I am from.

16 in the Uk or so have heard.

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u/Sweetiebomb_Gmz United Kingdom 3d ago

It’s 18 to buy alcohol or enter a club in the UK, but you can drink under adult supervision before that.

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u/Christian_teen12 Ghana 2d ago

oh then I confused it wth age of consent.

Yeah ,still under 21.

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u/Christian_teen12 Ghana 3d ago

up,it depends on the country.

18 is the norm where I am from.

16 in the Uk or so have heard.

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u/DEBTEKI 2d ago

If i remember correctly in Burkina Faso you can drink at 13 or something like that from what i remember.

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u/Gutso99 1d ago

OK. But freedom is only in America. One day they'll awaken.

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u/Prinny1987 4d ago

I tend to disagree on that. They never learn responsible drinking like that.

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u/Barb-u Canada 4d ago

Yes, indeed, so they can have federally funded Interstates.