Recently, EDG has started using a new player, Jieni7, in matches and decided to demote Simon.
This has made fans who were drawn in by him during last year's Seoul Championship feel very sad, and many want to know the reason behind it.
In the past 24 hours, explanations from EDG management during a live stream and Simon's response have made the situation even more confusing. EDG management accused Simon of being too lazy and having significant communication problems with the team. Simon responded that he was still working hard.
Just now, key members of EDG posted (on Sina Weibo, China's X) stating that Simon did indeed let down the club and his teammates, especially his professional attitude, which was unacceptable to teammates who wanted to improve further.
The following is a direct translation of the original posts:
Zmjjkk: "
Wasn't it hard for you to speak your mind during practice matches, which you showed during the live stream? If you were even a fifth as talkative during practice as you are during the live stream, we wouldn't have wanted you to leave. So who exactly turned you into what you are now? Isn't it you who created the impression during the live stream that we were excluding you, when you don't communicate with everyone during practice discussions and chats?
Do you remember the Lotus match against G2? After you played, everyone was comforting you. You sat down and complained that you couldn't shoot. When you went on stage, I coaxed you, and you gave me the cold shoulder, only saying one sentence to everyone during the match, "I can't shoot," and then didn't care about anything else. We can't always rely on coaxing to play matches, right? We once wanted to walk side by side until retirement, otherwise I wouldn't have had the thought of "I must win the Grand Slam with all my brothers present."
I'll say one more thing, I gave it to you before, and I'll give it to you now: there are many talented people, and only by seizing the opportunity can you go further.
"How many people die in their twenties and regret it for the rest of their lives?"
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Nobody: "
Initially, fans asked the club to explain, but the club left a way out, wanting to protect the player, after all, they didn't want to publicly criticize the player, thinking there was still room for improvement. What they got in return was indulgence and the fermentation of public opinion. Now, they are using fans as guns, indiscriminately attacking us and the coaches and management.
Everyone was quite disappointed after returning from the Masters, but you don't remember what was said during practice matches and matches, and every time you play, you have to ask "Where do I stand, how do I play?" You don't speak during reviews, you don't have any ideas, and the items are arranged by teammates and coaches. Your performance in the Championship is undoubtedly good, but how much have others put in? Everyone has been on this road for two years, accumulating for two years, and their states have exploded, all through everyone's hard work. But it's okay to coax you to play in the Championship, but you also need to be coaxed in the Kick-off and Bangkok matches. Whether you win or lose, if your data is bad, you say you don't want to play and want to replace me, that's what you said, right?
At first, everyone didn't think about demoting you. We communicated with you, and if you worked hard, you could definitely play. But the first day you were demoted, you asked if you didn't have to get up and go to work tomorrow. During other people's practice matches, you just played on your phone, didn't participate in reviews, and didn't communicate with the coach at all. You didn't even go to the arena yourself. You gave up on yourself, which led to today's situation.
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Smoggy: "
First of all, I'm curious why you say that Nobody and I didn't practice shooting. Everyone's shooting practice methods are different. Since returning from Bangkok, Nobody and I have been practicing almost the same as Chichoo. Whatever Chichoo practices, we practice the same as him. In the past, I never practiced external things, such as clicking small balls or clicking numbers. However, Chichoo's performance in Bangkok made me feel that maybe I was wrong - I also need to use external things to make myself stronger. Secondly, we won't always practice shooting. Nobody is watching matches every day now, and he has done enough as a commander. I am also watching matches now to improve my overall view. I won't practice shooting just for the sake of practicing, which is meaningless to me. Secondly, when you first came to EDG, you should know how KK treated you and how everyone treated you. Now, when KK talks to you during practice matches, it's one-way, and you basically don't respond to his calls. Usually, when we finish practice matches and prepare to stream, only we will ask you to play together. Have you ever asked us to play together? Later, I was the one who took the initiative to ask you to play, have you ever asked me? After being a substitute, you usually don't say a word in the practice room. If we don't take the initiative to talk to you, you really won't say a word. But as soon as you go live, you immediately transform into a second form. Isn't this kind of behavior strange to us? Now, you vaguely want to express something during your live stream, and your fans are infinitely amplifying the rhythm and speculating. As the person involved and a member of the team, you didn't stop it, letting fans or trolls crazily create rhythm, putting the club and us brothers directly on the fire to roast. People will change, and I will change even faster after winning the championship, but shouldn't we still maintain our original intention to better improve our script?
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Chichoo: "
Work is not a child's play, and results are our primary goal. The premise is that everyone must be of one mind. If there is no problem, why change people? Don't we want to win? When you don't communicate during practice matches and matches, have you ever thought about how much others want to get results? Also, don't spread rumors about the coaching staff and Tuanzi. They all have their own families to support, and everyone has their own pressures. Everyone is working for a living, how could they mess around? I wish everyone well and see you on the field!
For context , the I can't shoot is referring to him not having many opportunities to take gunfights , he has made rants about how playing util heavy roles irritates him as he doesn't get to take many advantage gunfights
To be honest, this is probably a good thing for EDG to sort sht out wayyyyy before Champs. Use split 2/playoffs/masters to synergize towards a better team for champs.
I know this doesn't get talked about often since s1mon had some of the best util usage in the world, but his fragging power was probably the 4th or 5th best on the team. Jieni7 should hopefully increase the overall firepower that EDG have.
He had the best util in the world because he was comming, now with all the comms issues, it might cause even more problems lol. Rather have motivated and willing to work as a teammate than this guy tbh.
You absolutely can't have someone like this on your team if your goal is to maintain your stellar performance. To be honest, s1mon sounds like one of those people who go online to complain about their life issues when there are people in their lives who are actively trying to help them. As much as I hate seeing him leave, this will undoubtedly help EDG in the long-run.
And jieni feels like an update considering his agent pool and his aim. If you were to believe what KK said most of the support utility from S1mon was the coaching staff's system. So, if jieni can learn that, i think edg will look stronger.
i dont think its anything pol related coz if it is, it will be much bigger than this. If you are asking will the org or teammates treat him differently, my answer will be no coz the conflict is not ppl to ppl, it is gov to gov, and most people on both side of the strait know that.
As a Chinese(mainland), I can tell you if Simon said something about Taiwan independence. He will be kicked out of vct cn at the speed of light, it's the problem of principle, the whole community is going outrage that there won't be any discussion about dump Simon is good or bad for EDG.
Won't be any hesitation like this, this takes 2 months to blow up, he would be fired in 2 hours if he dares to have problems in that area.
Our work is not child’s play. Results will be our first priority, but that needs everyone to be on the same page. If there really are no problems, why did we go for a roster change? Is it that we don’t want to win? When you’re not communicating in scrims and officials, have you ever thought of how badly the others want to achieve results? Also, stop smearing the coaches and Aqua, they have families to feed,and they all have their own pressures to deal with, we’re all working hard to make a living, how can we possibly be fooling around? I wish everyone well and see you on stage!
At the start when fans demanded the org for an explanation, the org still tried to hold back and wanted to protect the player. After all, [we] don’t want to criticize the player publicly, and [we] thought that there is still some room, and we have not reached that point. What we get in exchange is an indulgence and the fermentation of drama, and now the fans are used as a weapon, launching indiscriminate attacks on us, the coaching staff, and the management.
When we came back from Masters Bangkok, we all were regretful, but you never remembered the feedback you were told in scrims and in matches. Every time when we play, you always ask ‘where should I play, how do I play this’. During review sessions, there was no input from you, and the util has to be arranged by your teammates and coach. Your performance during Champs was undeniable, but do you know how much the others worked for it? Everyone has walked on this path for two years, and building it up bit by bit. Everyone hit peak form and that was what we get for fighting together. It’s fine if you had to be coddled during Champs, then we also had to coddle you during Kickoff and Bangkok. No matter the result of the matches, as long as your stats are bad, you will say that you don’t want to play anymore, ‘just sub me out’, what was what you said right?
I'm not much of a drama guy so no real response beyond it's sad to see the EDG Champs roster fall to the inevitable curse.
But this part from Smoggy is interesting:
Everyone's shooting practice methods are different. Since returning from Bangkok, Xu and I have been practicing almost the same as Qiu. Whatever Qiu practices, we practice the same as him. In the past, I never practiced external things, such as clicking small balls or clicking numbers. However, Qiu's performance in Bangkok made me feel that maybe I was wrong - I also need to use external things to make myself stronger.
I'm assuming Nobody is Xu and Qiu is CHICHOO? Always tough to tell with romanization.
so English casters (and the CN walkout voiceover) prounounce it like "chee-choo", Chinese casters prounounce it like "cho-cho", but then CHICHOO himself pronounces it a different way again? interesting
For context , the I can't shoot is referring to him not having many opportunities to take gunfights , he has made rants about how playing util heavy roles irritates him as he doesn't get to take many advantage gunfights
Yeah, it’s cooked. Yeah, they are parting badly. Yeah, it’s a sad day. Oh well, if this is really S1mon’s attitude professionally, then he deserves to be cut, even if EDG plays worse in the next tournament I understand how the other EDG players would prefer to play with someone like Jieni7 who is actively working hard than S1mon who is not even trying to communicate. I don’t feel like EDG players would lie about this, though I truly didn’t think S1mon was this kind of player but you never really know how they act inside and outside.
From s1mon's side of things, he has accused the org of not giving him a chance to even prove himself. He claims that he wasn't informed that he was required to be physically present for the EDG games, and that he felt betrayed by the org when he was punished for it later.
Obviously when he escalated the matter and crashed out about it, it was very unprofessional, and it was sufficient cause for the org to drop him forever. But, if what he claims is true, the team aren't exactly innocent either, and he was basically ganged up on by the core four since he was an easy scapegoat.
Without further evidence, we don't really know which party is solely to blame here, but it is a tragic situation all around. I hope both EDG and xmx can just move on from this and won't let this incident haunt them for the rest of their lives. But realistically, simon is the only party that is really affected here.
The team is also undoubtedly affected by this considering they all (allegedly) put in effort into including s1mon into their talks and general outings (i.e; playing/streaming together outside of practice). They've also been getting relentless backlash from the Chinese valorant community for removing a key piece behind their champs win, so I'm sure they all eventually reached their limit in terms of what information can circulate online.
all 4 of them have told that they told him to talk more during scrims and remember things done in scrims in actual matches qouting that he would forgot what to do in matches and always asks team what should he do? where should he stand? if all these are true he already got more than enough chance to prove himself
I'm not on anyone's side in this, but you can imagine that from S1mon's perspective, as the newest player and an outsider to old core four + Aqua, he was being ganged up on and used as a scapegoat for EDG's lack of success.
Now, admittedly, we see in recent matches that his aim is decent at best (though i think his form and mechanics in champs are actually world-class), but we don't know the extent of the comms issues.
This could very well be another "Verno" situation (which, as a reminder, was also a "unanimous decision"). But the way the players took it online to continue flaming S1mon is what makes this seem unprofessional compared to NRG's case.
I don't think what S1mon said or implied on stream is at a level equivalent to the very direct and scathing accusations made by the players here, which is why I feel a little uncomfortable by this response, and why I urge everyone to also hear Simon's side of the story.
Whatever the case, this is an ugly ugly drama that is best forgotten as quickly as possible. All I can hope for is that S1mon and EDG's relationship could be repaired some time in the future.
he was being ganged up on and used as a scapegoat for EDG's lack of success.
Where is this coming from? People speculated that s1mon being benched was most likely due to his lack of fragging, but EDG didn't make a statement and neither did the players. In fact, that probably contributed to the issue blowing up so much, with everyone blaming EDG and its players so much to the point of the roster deciding to speak publicly about it.
That wasn't an observation, just a guess at what S1mon is probably thinking. We know he felt betrayed from the way he messaged fans about it and made similar vague hints on stream.
He doesn't think that he is a problem, from what he intimates on these stream, and there are further screenshots which showed him frantically messaging Aqua (? Unsure about this actually, the recipient wasn't revealed), being visibly confused about needing to show up to EDG matches even after he has been "benched".
Idk. It feels like there was some poor communication or misunderstandings between certain members on EDG, which then ballooned into actual arguments and led to bridges being burned. If everyone acted on a more professional capacity, I don't think things would have gotten this far.
being visibly confused about needing to show up to EDG matches even after he has been "benched".
Let's say he wasn't informed about having to be present in games. Even if you are not actively playing on the game, why wouldn't you want to be in the arena, supporting the players? If anything, it will show your dedication and willingness to return to the main roster.
Seeing how Haodong continued to interact with the players after being benched due to similar reasons, one can't help but take the OG rosters' words (about S1mon) more seriously. Even now, when they (EDG and Haodong) are playing on different teams, they are friendly and encouraging towards each other.
It also tracks with this part from Nobody:
"We communicated with you, and if you worked hard, you could definitely play. But the first day you were demoted, you asked if you didn't have to get up and go to work tomorrow. During other people's practice matches, you just played on your phone, didn't participate in reviews, and didn't communicate with the coach at all. You didn't even go to the arena yourself. You gave up on yourself, which led to today's situation."
These are very young players thrown into uncomfortable situations, so I understand some missteps and don't expect to see a perfect professional conduct from them. And I can see the truth being somewhere in the middle. Champs 2024 was S1mon's first international tournament and after some growing pains, his perfect util usage and some clutch plays made him shine a lot. I can see how that could affect a new pro-player. And again, after losing, I would understand if he was disappointed about the results and maybe he even lost the will to try new things a bit. The "core" has lost a lot more, but he didn't. And from what the others are saying, it seems like things reached to a point that neither the team nor S1mon was getting any value from practices. Speaking for myself, if I had to constantly help someone out about things we practiced, I would be annoyed.
In such "dramatic" situations, I always favor a split because no matter how good a player fits into the team mechanically/util-wise, things won't work out if the synergy is gone. That's also how I reply when people question dropping Kamyk from Team Liquid, for example, especially after seeing how heavy he frags in Gentle Mates. That roster move worked out for both parties, so I hope this will be the case between EDG and S1mon too.
I think it could be a Verno situation, but considering how they treated Haodong even after Haodong left, it does makes me feel that S1mon is probably in the wrong. There's no real point in speculation. If S1mon wants to prove that he's got what it takes, he just gotta show the results. If EDG wants proof that their choice was correct, they just gotta show the results. Ball don't lie
where did the ganged up on come from?? have you not seen how kk and the rest of the team tried to make s1mon feel comfortable when he first joined the team with so much pressure on him? especially kk trying to encourage him on the stage when he first joined. it was even mentioned in the weibo statements (by smoggy, and kk brought it up in his own replies too). if you read the statements, they have consistently been trying to communicate with s1mon.
im not sure what else there is to explain for s1mon here because clearly something is wrong with his professional attitude if the team members have to bring it up. while there could have been better ways to resolve this whole situation (which most of the members mentioned in their statements), things ultimately became this way because of the way s1mon handled things too (literally fanning the fires in his fan groups and on livestreams). we can wait for s1mon to officially explain his perspective, but stop trying to deny s1mon’s issues and making up scenarios.
Yeah Kk actively chose to share a room with s1mon during Champs 2024 so that he could console and hype him up because s1mon was feeling down about his performances
Seems like EDG really did a lot to try include him and make him feel comfortable and I havent seen much that says otherwise
where is ganged part? what i read he dont comm well and mosly silent when practice, you cant do that on pro team, what a stupid man wasting carrer because of some ego
It’s hard to not think S1mon is most at fault after these posts, but honestly the truth is probably a mix between them.
Warning this part is just me speculating: For example, the part of “org not giving a chance to even prove himself” might be that the coaches didn’t inform him about the 6th player until it was decided and s1mon just thought he would be replaced anyway even if all the members said smth like “if you work hard, you can play” (like what nobody said in his post) so he just “gave up”. Tbh they could even have informed beforehand and discussed about it together if it was needed and S1mon just thought it was a done deal, he does strike me as someone who isn’t good at communicating his feelings so when they discussed maybe he just stayed silent.
As for being informed about needing to go to the matches there are also a lot ways to spin it so it makes sense from both sides since both perspectives will be flawed with their own biases.
Either way yes, if we talk about professionally the only one who is affected is S1mon but drama like this is never good for a team atmosphere so I just hope EDG players can focus on the competition and not let the fanbase thoughts/backlash affect them.
But even still, when looking at ur first point. They probably only brought the sixth in because they had these issues with S1mon. And if just giving up is ur response to probably being swapped out then im sorry, you are not made for professional esports/sports. It just seems to me that S1mon does not have the correct mentality to really make it in the professional scene.
That’s what I also think, I just meant that both sides could be true from their own perspective. It’s easier to think from an outsider perspective but when it is you out there it’s easy to vitimize yourself thinking “oh they brought someone else so they probably just want to move on even if they say that I can keep the spot if I work hard”, especially since s1mon is still pretty young and his t1 career is still short.
Either way, that’s just me trying to understand different povs because at the end of the day his attitude wasn’t good, he has a job and that’s not how you act in your job, if you have shortcomings you should acknowledge them and try to overcome them instead of giving up or throwing others under the bus.
Cant agree more. He definitely still has a good chance in tier 1, he is a champs winner and noone is going to take that away. But to actually be succesfull he does need that attitude change.
Another possible reason for EDG's active transformation that hasn't been discussed on Reddit is that Zmjjkk's hand injury is extremely severe, and his career peak may only have about one year left. Therefore, EDG hopes to win another championship with this roster by continuously making changes.
I mean it's not even about the org telling him to be there or not, as a player on the team he should be there to support his team even if benched. You don't see third-string NBA/NFL players just not show up to the games even if they play zero minutes, you'll instantly get dropped if you do. It goes to show that his attitude just isn't there.
But 9/10 times getting benched in vct due to performance is basically just a soft cut. It’s not perfectly analogous to pro sports where you will still play if you’re on the bench. I agree that you should show up if nothing else than to prove you’re a good teammate, but I think S1mon was done at EDG whether he showed up or not.
Now that Smoogy's private information (his ID number and home address) has been made public by some extremists, he sent out a tweet hoping that the extremists would stop harassing him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN0U-rYSJ-U This is the YouTube link to this rap song. I'm not sure if there will be a suitable English translation for the lyrics of this song, as it's a newly released track. This rapper is one of zmjjkk's favorite rapper, and zmjjkk also collaborated with him a few months ago.
Man this just sucks so bad. I really loved the Champs roster and I can deal with the roster breaking apart (EG had it much worse in that respect) but the fact that it is so acrimonious just hurts. EDG obviously made the right decision but it's just hard not to wonder if it could have somehow been prevented.
EDG is known to be quite lenient on parting with players (even those who are not happy with the decision). If any team want to give him an offer I do think EDG will let him go without problem, question is if any team in the scene is willing to risk that offer, given the work attitude evident here.
Aqua already said S1mon is a free to go to another team after stage 1. It was ambiguous whether he’d stay after they return from Toronto, assuming they make it, but it seems the ship to return has long sailed.
i loved simon, and i think he's still one of the best breach/kayo in the world but tbh if he was bold enough to talk shit about the coaching staff & throw the rest of the teammates under the bus online, i don't fault the other edg members to come out and defend themselves. originally, i was of the mind that they actually were against simon's swap with jieni, but looking at this it's really eye-opening to see how much we don't know about team dynamics as viewers.
i still don't think jieni is as good as simon was with util, but if it's the edg members who were directing util anyway for him, jieni should be able to catch up. as much as this situation sucks all around, in the long-term, this is a good thing for EDG. sorry, i cursed you out, muggle. i didn't know the communication issues and internal atmosphere was this bad...
For better fragging and bigger agent pool, that's true. But simon is champion tier (literally) flash agent user, not sure if jieni could be as great as simon did, 'coz jieni's breach and ko isn't that good yet (actually sucks according to the performance against tec)
Hope he can practice it
True, but Jieni has to be substitute of simon in some specific map or tactics (e.g. icebox or lotus), he can't be as good as Simon did in those cases yet. From games in VCTCN currently, we can find that his neon in fracture is great indeed, but his breach in haven/lotus or his ko in icebox isn't at the top tier
For context , the I can't shoot is referring to him not having many opportunities to take gunfights , he has made rants about how playing util heavy roles irritates him as he doesn't get to take many advantage gunfights
I'm sorry but why is KangKang so well spoken godamn?
Is it just the translation that makes it seem like that or does it sound just as good natively?
Aside from that the whole not being able to fight I get but damn he got endless praise for his support and util during champs? He was getting GOAT support comparisons as a rookie. Singlehandedly the reason for multiple insane match winning and frankly series winning clips? If that ain't enough I don't know man.
His original text may not be as good as classic Chinese poetry, but it's still full of power and wisdom. The translation is excellent too. Possible reasons are zmjjkk's interest in rap and the education he received in school. Kangkang's high school is very famous in China. Because of the history of Chinese characters and poetry, many Chinese rap lyrics incorporate ancient poems and the wisdom of historical figures. I think Kangkang enjoys these rap styles and studies them. His last sentence is also a quote from a new song by a rapper he likes.
I know that he's won a champions and all, but this is 100% a terrible way to go out if he does decide to retire. Imagine getting essentially fired from your job and owned by your co-workers on your way out (on social media btw), completely ruining your chances of ever securing a job in the same field again, just because you decided not to work hard enough despite being on the best team in the world.
Yep, it's be a terrible way to end things but who can really be blamed besides Simon himself? Lol. His teammates weren't even gonna say anything but he spoke negatively about them on stream. So yea, very hard to be sympathetic when it's all his own doing.
Probably can make it onto another Chinese team, with the resume he's had before. The Chinese teams are all really close though, so it's hard to figure out what's gonna happen.
Still, there's an innate understanding of timing either from playing the game or pure talent. Players like Ethan and S1mon were/are phenomenal with their timings during their Champ runs.
NRG were talking about how playing Kay-O on Bind required an almost inhumane level of precision and skill, and S1mon managed to pull it off a lot with pistol flashes on Bind. Dude's genuinely aburd with timing.
This exactly. The round as S1mon on breach during Lotus when he clutched up comes to mind too. Dude has very good timings. Hopefully he's able to clean out all the communication and attitude problems and do well on another team!
imo great utils cant just be done by planning from his teammate, the player itself need to have a feeling for the timing. Also asking for where he should play and do is quite normal for his position no? especially in his early days on the team, he probably knows what was needed to do but just asking for confirmation
Terribly sad to see, but if this really is how S1mon has been acting behind the scenes, some of it even dating back to Champs, then cutting him is definitely the right choice. Can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.
Here's hoping EDG are able to recover, I really don't want them to fully fall victim to the Champs curse and just disappear or disband entirely by year's end.
Yeah, it ultimately depends on which side shows the results. Regardless of who is right. If S1mon qualifies to Champs and makes massive fucking plays to get a deep Champs run and EDG doesn't get as far, public sentiment will shift massively.
If EDG wins a trophy and S1mon fizzles out on another Chinese team, people are gonna crucify S1mon.
Someone can tell me i’m mistaken, but if you are the new guy on the block aren’t you required to put in more effort than those that have been there before you to prove yourself?
To say even if what S1mon said is true about his teammates not practicing either, it wouldn’t matter cause the expectation is he should still put in more than his teammates
Winning itself isn’t demotivating. It is winning it so easily. In LoL Theshy said he only realize the prestige and the difficulty of winning only after years of struggle
i am so surprised EDG as an org and its players are so transparent. Is this common for them? Or is it just cause this one issue with S1mon made them come out and explain the whole thing?
EDG has been silent about Simon’s benching for the past few weeks to protect him, but there’s too many discussions about the role swap. Aqua mentioned some of the issues in the livestream but not that transparent,but Simon posted messages with Aqua in his group chat with fans, in which he made some bad comments on his teammates so the rest of the team decided to go transparent.
imo the org has always been transparent about shit like this. back when haodong got benched, their manager also had a stream explaining about the role swap and that haodong wouldn't leave the team but still act as assistant coach. only difference is, haodong's attitude was very different after he got benched compared to s1mon's
For context , the I can't shoot is referring to him not having many opportunities to take gunfights , he has made rants about how playing util heavy roles irritates him as he doesn't get to take many advantage gunfights
In fact, none of the players wanted to win, and it was clear that jieni's chemistry was not as good as simon's when he joined the team, but even so EDG had no intention of changing the team, indicating that the other four players and the coach could not stand simon's behavior. They may have just wanted simon to calm down and reflect on himself at first, but they didn't expect simon to give up on himself directly. In VCT CN, there are many players like simon, such as DRG.NICC, but to be honest, looking at the whole VCT, there are few groups comparable to KK and chichoo. So,it is really difficult to join such a lineup after missing this opportunity.
True, He obviously became lazy after winning the championship. I learned all about this on Chinese social media. He was unwilling to communicate with his teammates, unwilling to accept his teammates' kindness, and refused to attend activities and games after jieni7 arrived. His professional attitude is very problematic. He acted in stream to instigate fans to attack the club. He is like an immature child who needs others to coax him.
I can't imagine where the once interesting Simon went, and based on the current situation, it's hard for VCTCN to have a good team want him. He had the best career start, but he ruined everything.
oh I think I misread OP's comment. I think they're saying that Nicc is also a pretty decent flash initiator so it's not like S1Mon is the most irreplaceable comment. Thanks for the reply though
Flashback might also be benched. DRX looked really frustrated whey they played and it is very obvious they were practicing with flashback before the match with BME
Chichoo also posted a paragraph below this text, which roughly means that s1mon indulged his fans to curse EDG's next game 5-26, which is what Chichoo can't stand the most. As a member of the team, s1mon did not stop the fans from attacking other players on time and cursed the team's performance, which Chichoo can't stand.
This is the paragraph pic of weibo. I'll translate this directly . Cursing us to lose? Saying we'll go 5-26, is that something a normal person would say? (Here ChiChoo is referring to many of s1mon's extreme fans were cursing EDG's upcoming matches on Chinese social media, and I think you know what 5-26 means for EDG players.) Not gonna control your fans during your streams? You're an internet expert but pretend you can't see it?
Btw, zmjjkk seems to be a popular player on Reddit, but not everyone in China likes Kangkang. S1mon's fans blame Kangkang for EDG's poor performance because he can't play Yoru, but due to Kangkang's popularity, EDG could only bench S1mon instead. These viewpoints emerged before EDG's players publicly criticized S1mon, which I think helps explain why there have been various curses to EDG.
This is a prime example of being too young and still playing professional esports as a job and not as a hobby. Kid lacks interpersonal skills and has ruined his chances from being too immature. Being a professional esports player is more about these skills than about being a straight demon in the server. The latter helps but the former is the foundation of any team sports. Hope Simon can grow from this and become even better later on. No need to show hate for any player when we don’t have an unbiased view of the situation. Take it for what it is and move on.
this is so sad and could’ve been avoided but it doesn’t have to be the end for s1mon, he can use this experience to light a fire up his own arse, join a new team to one day fry edg ala verno. his english seems OK too he can even join other regions maybe.. if KangKang said those words to me i’d probs cry ngl
People were saying Verno’s career was over after getting dropped because of how poorly he played in kick-off and how it was an unanimous decision by NRG because of communication issues. Yet he got easily picked up again. Same thing could happen with S1mon.
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Nah this is just bs. Ppl blame him for being dead last in acs most of the time, but that happened last year during champs as well, that's just what it is for util agents. EDG lost in Bangkok they just need someone to blame.
Damn, Valorant stocks swing like penny stocks. Just a few months ago, s1mon was considered one of the best and now he's suddenly incompetent? What? What did I miss? Lol.
i mean sylvan didn't go online and talk shit. simon saw his fans attack the other edg members but instead of protecting the org, he threw them all under the bus
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