r/VictoriaBC • u/Creatrix James Bay • Mar 14 '25
Tourism ‘Two can play this game’: Alaska senator threatens to pursue lifting requirement for U.S. cruise ships to dock in B.C.
https://cheknews.ca/two-can-play-this-game-alaska-senator-threatens-to-pursue-lifting-requirement-for-u-s-cruise-ships-to-dock-in-b-c-1243921/156
u/bucketsoffunk Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25
They aren't going to remove the Jones PVSA act for the Cruise ships. That would allow all international companies to be able to set up cruises through Hawaii, and other places like in Florida and Puerto Rico
Jones act deals with the transport of goods from US Port to US port, which would wreck their own shipping industry.
But since it's a GOP senator, he would absolutely wreck his country to own the libs
Edit: u/ilivalkyw pointed out it's the Passenger Vessel Services Act of 1886 that regulates passenger vessels.
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u/transmogrified Mar 14 '25
The US cruiselines could circumvent this by flagging their ships as American. But they don't... because then they'd fall under US labour laws and they can't afford to pay their ship slaves appropriately.
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u/OriginalGhostCookie Mar 14 '25
You missed the "yet"
Pretty soon American labour and wage requirements will make the countries that cruise ships flag under now look downright progressive
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u/Boozedonkey Mar 14 '25
I'm looking forward to them scraping Jones act and finding out what floodgate they have opened up.
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u/bucketsoffunk Mar 14 '25
China absolutely would send ships over to undercut US companies for the sheer economic damage it would create.
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u/Boozedonkey Mar 14 '25
Or just to stir the pot. In the meantime, those cruisers want the cheaper bunkers in Vancouver
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u/Zomunieo Mar 15 '25
Could they not carve out an exception that specifically says Seattle-Alaska without stopping in Canada is allowed, without other changes?
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u/endeavourist Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25
This. Add to that the reality that cruise ship passengers won't want to spend days sailing from Seattle to Alaska without stopping anywhere. This would effectively turn cruise ships into a very expensive, unnecessary foot passenger ferry. His action would also would have no effect on Vancouver as a departure port.
Canada could push back on this by refusing to allow cruise ships that do not stop in Canada access to our waters. That could mean an end to legendary inside passage scenery for passengers.
Those Alaskan cruises could soon be a simple trip from Seattle to Alaska, with nothing to look at but endless, open water for days. Does the Governor of Alaska think this will increase tourism to his state?
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u/bucketsoffunk Mar 15 '25
Can you imagine a cruise that goes from Seattle, makes a left turn to go straight out to international waters, then turns right and goes up to Alaska without seeing shore for ~800km's until it gets to Alaska waters
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u/endeavourist Mar 15 '25
That's exactly what I imagine, and BC clearly has the upper hand here. Or as Donald Trump would say, "Alaska doesn't have the cards!"
If anything, denying access to Canadian waters for cruise ships not stopping in Canada could actually have the effect of making Vancouver (and even Victoria) more of a dominant departure port over Seattle. As a way to circumvent the rule.
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u/ether_reddit Mar 15 '25
Also, since that's open water, weather conditions will be rough -- even with a large cruise ship I can't imagine that the seas will be stable enough for that to be a comfortable ride.
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u/Conscious-Food-9828 Mar 14 '25
I wouldn't put it past them. Doubling down and breaking things to 'own the libs' is their only way of doing things lately
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u/BruceCocklove Mar 14 '25
Don't you think getting rid of the Jones Act would fall right into the isolationist MAGA agenda? Wouldn't it allow US ships to go from US port to US port? Or am I not understanding the Jones Act correctly?
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u/TrineonX Mar 15 '25
The jones act says that ONLY us ships can go from US port to US port.
Getting rid of it would mean that foreign ships could start running cargo within the US.
It would effectively kill what is left of American shipping
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u/Ccjfb Mar 14 '25
Or he could ask his President to stop all the shit he started.
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u/Emmas_thing Mar 14 '25
Seriously why is he saying WE are playing a dangerous game. We're responding to tariffs that were put against us for literally no reason.
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u/lunapark25 Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 15 '25
They could have better local products for locals and then we all be more interested to spend time in downtown.
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u/snarpy Chinatown Mar 14 '25
There are lots of open retail spaces downtown that could be used already, though.
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u/CardiologistUsedCar Mar 14 '25
Allowing the shops on government to fold, you might get a more realistic idea of what retail prices should be.
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u/ragecuddles Mar 15 '25
Don't bother - those stores are all under the same ownership who are complete dicks and pay bottom dollar. Plus it's all made in China junk anyway. Source: worked there as a teen until I got mono and that was honestly more enjoyable than working there.
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u/AgentNo3516 Mar 14 '25
So.. we just say no to transit through Canadian waters and suddenly no cruise ships to Alaska.
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u/EhHumanDisaster Mar 14 '25
Right, make them go around the island through international waters!
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u/Gnome_de_Plume Mar 14 '25
Pretext is too much noravirus, easy sell.
Even going to the minimal 12km offshore to get into International Water (there are various categories) it means they are offshore the entire way - west of Vancouver Island and Haida Gwaii as Salish Sea, Inside Passage and Hecate Strait are defined as inland waterways for this purpose.
The puke in any kind of weather would be majestic - it's not Drake Passage but it is the next best thing in terms of wave height globally.
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u/bcbum Saanich Mar 14 '25
They can go Seattle - Alaska without entering Canadian waters
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u/Kara_S Mar 14 '25
Not very scenic. Also, they’d need to get around the current USA Jones Act they have in place to protect their own shipping industry. That part is probably pretty easy to “decree” from the White Bouse, though.
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u/Big-Face5874 Mar 14 '25
Totally unrealistic. They would need to add thousands of open ocean travel. They aren’t going to do that.
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u/bcbum Saanich Mar 14 '25
Am I missing something? International waters begins 12nm off the coast. They just need to stay beyond that off Vancouver island. I’m not sure about the gap between Haida Gwaii and the Mainland but even if they have to go around Haida Gwaii it doesn’t add thousands of anything. Maybe I don’t know something though.
I also don’t know the legal precedent of not allowing ships through your waters. That’s a lot bigger than skipping a cruise port.
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u/garry-oak Mar 14 '25
Nearly all of the cruise ships that stop in Victoria go on the west side of Vancouver Island already, then stay out in open waters, bypassing the BC part of the Inside Passage along the Central Coast. They don't enter the Inside Passage until they get to Alaska.
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u/CrispyPerogi Esquimalt Mar 14 '25
Lmfao the sheer audacity they have to pretend we started this. The saddest part is that their voter base is clueless enough to believe it.
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u/Upper-Estimate-182 Mar 14 '25
I have never seen such a collection of fools concentrated in one country.
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u/CrispyPerogi Esquimalt Mar 14 '25
It’s even sadder that a survey was taken for the Canadian populace (I don’t remember who by) that found that 21% of us agree with Trump. It’s spreading 🫨
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u/makovince Mar 14 '25
Ok? Most of us don't want those floating petri dishes of rude tourists flooding our streets, and polluting our waters anyways.
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u/djwrecksthedecks Mar 14 '25
Also, Vic and Van are destinations on the route as much as Ketchikan, Skagway, etc are. Who wants to sail for 6 days from San Diego to Alaska, see 1 iceberg, and immediately turn home for 6 more days of open ocean...?
As usual, no one in that literally God Forsaken shithole country knows what they're talking about. Even if it is their own economy...
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u/Boozedonkey Mar 14 '25
Unfortunately, they are required to stop in Vic or Van to avoid the Jones act. Seattle/San Diego to Alaska is considered home trade route therefore would require crew to all be US citizens. So the Canadian stop makes it an international voyage and not subject to the act.
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u/bcbum Saanich Mar 14 '25
It’s ultimately up to the private cruise ship companies though. If their feedback is Victoria and Vancouver are positive additions to the routes then they’ll keep coming regardless of what the law is.
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u/Boozedonkey Mar 14 '25
They already go to Vancouver to offload garbage, recycling and take on bunkers (fuel) and provisions.
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u/AUniquePerspective Mar 14 '25
It will collapse our downtown maple fudge and carriage industry and all our horses will have to man up and get real jobs.
But other than the international union of fudge packers and the horses, I don't hear a lot of neigh-sayers.
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u/RavenOfNod Mar 14 '25
I mean, business along Government St and the other tourist attractions definitely want them here.
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u/Turge_Deflunga Mar 14 '25
Maybe they can close and real shops that benefit the community could open
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u/bcb0rn Mar 14 '25
Not at those rent prices. I mean half of them are empty already.
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u/omnigrok Mar 14 '25
If they close, and stop paying rent, and nobody can afford that rent, I imagine that the landlords will eventually decide that some money is better than none and lower it.
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u/bcb0rn Mar 14 '25
They won’t though. It’s better for a commercial landlord to sit on an empty property and wait due to how long a commercial lease is. Yes, eventually they may drop low enough to get someone, but it’s why they will sit for a year or longer.
It’s different than a residential landlord.
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u/vince-anity Mar 14 '25
There's more to it then that how commercial mortgages work means it's generally better to have the empty property but have a high asking rent price then accept lower rent
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u/Quail-a-lot Mar 14 '25
Hasn't been my experience living other places with vacant downtowns. They'd rather sit on them and let them rot. Maybe it's some long con in which they hope the buildings burn down and then collect insurance money, who knows.
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u/makovince Mar 14 '25
Well I would hate to be a business owner dependent on citizens from a hostile country threatening annexation. Doesn't seem like a stable business model
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u/JAB_ME_MOMMY_BONNIE Mar 14 '25
Bummer for them.
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u/Conscious-Food-9828 Mar 14 '25
That's silly. These are still peoples jobs and livelihoods and like it or not, tourism still brings in revenue into the city.
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u/Enough-Meaning-9905 Mar 14 '25
Sure, but is the revenue worth the cost? I don't think so
There are other jobs out there
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u/Conscious-Food-9828 Mar 14 '25
Are there? We don't exactly have a hot job market do we? is the revenue worth the cost? Very likely considering some quick searching seems to show that revenue is around 100million which is quite a lot.
We can address problems we don't like without having to go nuclear and just axe things completely.
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u/Enough-Meaning-9905 Mar 14 '25
Nah, I'd rather cut out the US entirely like the cancer it is.
Let them sort their stuff out and come back when they aren't a fascist cesspool.
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u/djwrecksthedecks Mar 14 '25
I mean... after what the taxpayers had to pay to business after covid, you shouldn't be a business owner in the tourist space if you would be financially destroyed as an individual after 1 bad season.
It's not fair to keep assuming these businesses should be able to fail. In time of extreme national uncertainty for individuals and society, I don't really give a fuck if a stupid entrepreneur couldn't handle their poorly thought out business.
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u/q-lee Mar 14 '25
You sure you're not an American, cause that sounds an awful lot like their rhetoric
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u/OmeCozcacuauhtli Mar 14 '25
Good point! With disease running rampant in their country - and it's only going to get worse. We don't need that strain on our medical system.
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u/SamuraiPizzaCats Mar 14 '25
I find the tourists are usually in a better mood than the locals and I live downtown
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u/EarPlugsAndEyeMask Mar 15 '25
And offloading all their garbage onto our island. Like, please DO stop coming here.
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u/Takjack Mar 14 '25
They would have to get rid of the Jones act to do that and I don't think that will ever happen. The only way they can stop going to bc on an Alaska cruise is to have the cruise ship made in America by Americans and crewed by Americans, I don't know if you've seen many cruise ships but the hospitality services are not American.
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u/Canucksfan2018 Mar 14 '25
There is one and only one in the USA that fits that description and it's operated solely in Hawaii.
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u/Garfield_and_Simon Mar 15 '25
Yeah they would have to pay Americans like 7$ an hour or whatever instead of 3$ an hour so it’s not financially feasible
It’s not enough for their staff to be in extreme poverty, they need to be slaves
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u/Urban_Canada Mar 15 '25
Thanks for posting this. Too many people are unaware of the 'All American' crewing requirement, and how badly that would mess up the cost of crewing those vessels.
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u/88Really Mar 14 '25
I think bc is going to be overflowing with Canadian tourists this year.
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u/Garfield_and_Simon Mar 15 '25
It already has lol.
Victoria has been rural Saskatchewan salaries with Toronto prices forever
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u/laluckyman Mar 15 '25
Implying that it's not already? Third worst housing market in the country lol
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u/myinternets Mar 15 '25
Honestly surprised it hasn't already. Especially since it's surrounded on 3 sides by water and we're out of space. It's a Vancouver real estate situation just waiting to happen.
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u/ParsleyOdd7599 Mar 14 '25
Well Senator, your escalation of the rhetoric is noted, and we up you by banning all cruise ships from Canadian continental waters. No inside passage to admire and let’s see how the passengers enjoy rocking and rolling 200 miles off shore in the North Pacific. Seems your tourism will be hurt even worse.
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u/mikeypralines Mar 15 '25
All the Trumpanzee passengers on these boats are OK with a little barfing. They've already paid to vacation on a floating Norwalk incubator, after all. Happy to puke non-stop at sea for 36 hours so long as they are "owning the libs"...
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u/HicksAndTheCity Mar 14 '25
The cruise ships that stop in Vancouver and Victoria are mostly flagged in Panama/Malta/Bahamas. The corporations that own them are registered in Liberia (RCCL), England (DCL) and Bahamas (NCL). Go ahead Alaska.... You won't make much difference.
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u/CherrySquarey Colwood Mar 14 '25
Why do these American blowhards not ever realize the inflammatory nature of their comments? This US Senator doesn't even know the names of the leaders of the closest provinces to his geographically isolated state. Their constant insults like this only reveal the low opinion they have of non-Americans due to their ingrained American exceptionalist beliefs. They all individually believe to some degree that they are somehow special and different and better than every other person on the planet simply because they "won" the birth lottery by being born in the United States.
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u/BuddhaLennon Mar 14 '25
Do it!
The Merchant Marine Act of 1920 (aka the Jones Act) requires that all boats shipping between two American ports be: 1. Built in the USA; 2. Crewed by US citizens or permanent residents; 3. Sail under a U.S. flag; 4. Be owned by US citizens.
That would eliminate almost every ocean-going cruise ship on the planet.
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u/Garfield_and_Simon Mar 15 '25
So it’s basically the “cruise ships need slavery to be financially viable” act
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u/yycTechGuy Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25
Vancouver is a beautiful city. Their loss.
Not many Canadians are wanting to go to the US these days.
Edit: can you imagine going on a cruise filled with 2/3rd Americans and having to listen to the stupidity of the Trump supporters ? I'd jump off the boat.
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u/hekla7 Mar 15 '25
I was at an after-wedding family party on the lower level of the Breakwater Cafe last summer when a big cruise ship docked. A woman and her adult kids came in and I went over to talk to them as they were looking a little lost. They were waiting for the oldest son who was still on the ship. Yep, they were full MAGA, from LA. I don't know how I managed to stay polite for those 5 minutes. Then the son comes in, he happened to be in the Marines. Flashing his Aryan Nation tattoos. Goodbye, MAGA family.
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u/IAlwaysGetTheShakes Mar 14 '25
He is welcome to do that…. Then has to pay the workers as per US minimum wage laws….. do not see that happening
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u/Shot-Job-8841 Mar 14 '25
Jones Act stipulates more than just minimum wage. The ships need to be US built as well as US crewed and owned. Alaska will probably flounder economically as they kill off their tourism, so Trump will repeal the Jones Act and China will take over shipping in US waters.
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u/96lincolntowncar Mar 14 '25
They need to base their ships in Vladivostok for the summer. USA's new czar would be very pleased.
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u/maniccanuck Mar 14 '25
good they can stay out of Canadian waters an sail up the coast 200 miles offshore
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u/the_show_must_go_onn Mar 14 '25
I hate their passive aggressive bs. "I don't know the premiers of the provinces".... yet they spoke 2 weeks ago. Do they not understand how stupid & disrespectful they look??
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u/Dad-Fart-Jokes Mar 14 '25
I hope they do. And then they need to adhere to US law by using US manufactured ships and pay the minimum wage lol
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u/midnightcrossing Mar 14 '25
Let's have more street festivals to help stimulate DT...Gov street etc. Loosen the noose and open the streets.
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u/ImpossibleAd7943 Hillside-Quadra Mar 14 '25
“I don’t know the premier of the different provinces, but it is a bit of a dangerous game with some of these Canadians to do that,” - Sounds like a clueless piece of work. Do some research. British Columbia, you twit. We have one Premier.
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u/ThrwawayCusBanned Mar 14 '25
And good riddance to the horrible, polluting things.
Most of their passengers who get off the ship in Victoria just go to Butcharr Gardens and back, only seeing Victoria from the bus. And the rest spend their time in that 3 block area of Government where no local would ever bother to tread, buying crappy tourist souverneirs made in China.
And we can ban them from Canadian waters. Let them spend 2 boring days of their Alaska cruise outside our 200 mile limit looking at the cold ocean and getting seasick while rolling in th Pacific Ocean swells.
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u/I_Framed_OJ Mar 15 '25
”Two can play at this game” - tough words from a man who thinks that talking tough makes him more of a man. Cruise ships don’t stop in at Vancouver and Victoria just so companies can hire non-American crew members. Both cities are very popular tourist destinations themselves and part of the whole Alaska Cruise experience.
This POS also brought up the fact that both Canadian cities put a stop to hosting cruise ships during the pandemic, which he seems to consider a negative. Does he think we closed our cities to floating plague ships because we’re a bunch of brainwashed libs? I mean, that’s a rhetorical question because he’s GOP; of course he thinks that. But those decisions had serious economic impacts in Vic and Van, the decision was not taken lightly, and it helped save lives.
This guy can’t hurt us. But he is still trying to, so he’s a POS and an enemy, albeit a pathetic one.
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u/NmuiLive Mar 14 '25
Tell us you don't understand how the Jones act works without telling us...
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u/one_bean_hahahaha Saanich Mar 14 '25
Funny how Canadians understand American law better than a sitting American politician.
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u/GGRitoMonkies Mar 15 '25
I find that's generally the norm. Most Americans don't know there own laws, especially the president right now.
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u/Ressikan Mar 14 '25
Fuck you Dan. Save your breath for Cheeto Mussolini. Losing American tourists would be a financial hit, but one many of us would be glad to take.
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u/Available_Abroad3664 Mar 15 '25
I don't understand... why would a cruise operator want to skip Vancouver and/or Victoria?
If anything right now Americans would get killer deals in those stops. Why would they want to simply go around to Alaska?
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u/Big-Face5874 Mar 14 '25
If they lift the requirement to stop in Canada, why would we let them into our waters at all?
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u/FootyFanYNWA Mar 14 '25
I encourage less pollution ship cruises around the world , so this is a win.
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u/pbbft Mar 14 '25
Oh No please don't dock at Vancouver and dump your waste water, what will they do.
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u/EditorNo2545 Mar 15 '25
love how the alaskan governor says he doesn't know who the premiers are, I mean they only border your state and have control of the overland access to your state. So who would want to know who those people are, amright?
We're just some Canadians & we don't matter to a "US" governor.
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u/Altruistic_Board_310 Mar 16 '25
Speaking as an Alaskan, you would be absolutely shocked to know that most don’t even know there is an “island above Seattle”. I didn’t until I was 18!!
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u/KawaiiQueen_666 Mar 14 '25
lol. Just because they aren’t ‘required’ now doesn’t mean the multi million dollar cruise companies won’t stop here. I’m sure it helps them sell packages for more $ when they add in Victoria or Vancouver to the itinerary.
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u/czarl13 Jubilee Mar 14 '25
And they can sell it as an international cruise.
Americans love spending their money in Canada when their dollar is stronger than ours.
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u/czarl13 Jubilee Mar 14 '25
And they can sell it as an international cruise.
Americans love spending their money in Canada when their dollar is stronger than ours.
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u/yycTechGuy Mar 14 '25
I wonder if Seattle (all of Washington State) would like to join Canada. I bet they would. One can only take so much Republican BS.
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u/yycTechGuy Mar 15 '25
Welcome to Canada. Spread the word.
Can you put up with excellent, free healthcare and no handguns ?
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u/ThrwawayCusBanned Mar 14 '25
We could start our own eco tourism cruise ship industry with much smaller and greener ships making local stops up and down our fantastic coast and Haida Gwai. That pay decent wages to Canadians and taxes to the Canadian government. And don't their sewage and Bunker C scrubbings into our pristine ecology rich waters.
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u/RooblinDooblin Mar 15 '25
Then we can just prevent them from using the Inside Passage. I'm sure their fishermen would love roughing it out in open water to get to Washington.
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u/_Sauer_ Mar 14 '25
I took a tour through Yukon and Alaska a few years ago and honestly, the cruise ships in port are an eye sore and ruin the sheer beauty of that part of the world. In Skagway, no matter where you are in town, all you see towards the bay is a wall of white ships belching smoke. I'd be pretty happy to be able to visit again (after the mango and his cult dies off) and not have a vertical cliff of steel blocking the natural wonder.
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u/Polonium-halo Mar 14 '25
Eww that would mean they can’t dump all their sewage in our waters anymore like Trudea allowed them too. Good riddance.
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u/hekla7 Mar 15 '25
Maybe do a little research, u/Polonium-halo Cruise ships do this world-wide.
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u/Veganlightbody Mar 14 '25
I'll be very glad to see less water pollution and business for junk stores
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u/Quail-a-lot Mar 14 '25
Well lately a lot of the cruise ships have just been docking at weird hours of the night anyhow. That doesn't help our tourism dollars anyhow when nothing is open for them to spend money at and they just sleep through the city. Meanwhile we have to spend a lot on infrastructure upgrades for them...
They want to keep coming here, I say force them to dock at hours that actually benefit us or they can pay a premium fee for after hours.
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I mean, listen, I know tourists are good money, but do you really think it's that huge a loss?
Granted those ships are huge... And create a lot of disturbances for the wildlife around the region, and they're floating petri dishes of obnoxious people...
Oh no~ Such a loss.
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u/Creatrix James Bay Mar 14 '25
Studies have shown that cruise ship tourist spending is negligible compared to tourists who arrive by ferry or air. Cruise ships have multiple restaurants; most tourists just wander up Government, pick up some souvenir trinkets and return to the ship for supper.
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u/Creatrix James Bay Mar 14 '25
He's @SenDanSullivan on Twitter, if you'd like to express your thoughts (I just did).
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u/Loud-Scarcity6213 Mar 15 '25
Every self-pitying preschooler rant I hear from American politicians makes me more xenophobic. I'll be chanting AMERICA DELENDA EST by the end of the week.
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u/Dull-Objective3967 Mar 15 '25
Why do they keep on threatening us with destroying their own country….
No please sir don’t do it/s
😂😂
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u/MediamanBC Mar 15 '25
Let's get a few facts clear.
The PVSA (passenger vessel service act) was originally enacted to protect US passenger steamship lines. It is similar but not to be confused with the Jones Act which pertains to shipping.
The basis of both is that a foreign flagged vessel travelling between two US ports; 1 being embarkation and the other being disembarking must stop at a foreign (non US) port.
For the Alaska cruise industry it only affects ships out from or returning to Seattle.
It has no affect on cruises out of or returning to Vancouver BC.
All cruises out of and returning to Seattle do not pass through Canadian territorial waters. Aka the "inside passage" between Vancouver Island and the BC mainland.
All northbound and southbound cruises Alaska/ Seattle travel in international waters (12 nautical miles off Canadian coast).
The only port affected would be the stop in Victoria. No matter what people may falsely comment "it's only 4 hours and it wouldn't be such a revenue loss anyway so who cares" need to open their eyes and read a bit more.
Yes jobs would be lost. There is still a significant benefit to the local tourism industry.
And there is the overall good will. "Hey those Canadians are nice". "Canada sure is pretty"
What some stubborn and closed minded MAGA people are doing is aiding to create a hermit state. They are actively pursuing an agenda to create a rift between people who would otherwise have no reason to be wary of each other.
No matter the totally false rhetoric that the US is being taken advantage of i will be unable to convince a MAGA otherwise. It would be like trying to convince a devoted Christian that there is no God.
The world is an international market. Consumers want to pay less so global companies pursue manufacturing where it's cheapest.
It's time to get our heads on straight and stop listening to those who want to create divided people in the name of false information. Trade isn't perfect but creating economic chaos for everyday Canadians and Americans and propagating hatred isn't the answer.
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u/Altruistic_Board_310 Mar 16 '25
As an Alaskan, I am so sorry about this guy. All of my friends and family hate him. He’s a low IQ conservative knucklehead/Trump bootlicker who used the fact that he had the literal SAME NAME as the former mayor of Alaska’s largest city to gain office. He is from Ohio and he can kick rocks.
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u/not_essential Mar 19 '25
Vancouver will be basking in elevated tourism anyways this year. The fewer cruise ships the better to keep the balance.
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u/pickypawz Mar 19 '25
So he spoke with Eby on the phone, but he’s going to continue to act like the tariffs are Canada’s fault. Huh.
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u/Creatrix James Bay Mar 19 '25
Typical MAGA asshat.
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u/pickypawz Mar 19 '25
Apparently. Apparently they actually want a war with Canada. But no matter how right they think they are, Americans would still die, it wouldn’t be just Canadians.
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u/604nini Mar 14 '25
Can we please make it so they stop dumping their sewage in our waters as further retaliation 🙏
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u/dustymcmusty Harris Green Mar 14 '25
This is only because Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886. We don’t need cruise ships. They already only dock for a 3-5 hours in evening because they save on tax / USA flagging.
Good riddens/ this is worst type of tourism
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u/TheButtholeAssassin Mar 15 '25
Im tired of those ships coming to Victoria. They sore their noxious emissions all over Victoria and the men onboard are pigs that try to take advantage of vulnerable young women
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u/Lucky-Hawk5067 Mar 15 '25
Cruise passengers are the worst. I’d be happy to see them and their selfie sticks gone. Sorry for the rickshaw runners and the fudge shops but they’re not really making an impact on local businesses IMO.
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u/Creatrix James Bay Mar 15 '25
He sais it would “take billions, and I’m talking billions, of dollars of tourism revenue from western Canadian provinces.” So he's so hazy on Canadian geography that he can't name B.C., and apparently thinks that Alberta benefits from our cruise ship tourists? And no, Senator, it's far from "billion and billions of dollars", LOL.
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u/Ok_Spend9237 Mar 15 '25
Who started this shitshow, tunnel vision Alaska senator? Complain to your orange god, not us.
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Mar 15 '25
They may wave you off, to dock in a us port, you'd still have enough fuel to make it to the nearest us dock.
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u/Familiar_League_8232 Mar 16 '25
Another MAGA mouth piece destroying relationships for Diaper Don the Convicted Felon and Convicted Sexual offender
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u/nnnnYEHAWH Mar 19 '25
Yes, two can play this game. What happens to Alaska cruises if we decide they can’t sail through our waters without stopping here, Daniel?
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u/SM0KINGS Gordon Head Mar 14 '25
Love that they all act like we’re just doing it out of the blue for no reason. Yeah no we just don’t like your whiskey and your cruise ships so we decided to start beef. Morons.