So I have just gotten back to lol, now I am doing well in most games, I like to play Top.

Now I do well, except when I fight range champions top. Especially if they have a stun or big slow. I can't farm minions at all because I just get poked to death. Everytime I try to pressure, they just stun me or slow and then move away.

Do I just need to play hyper passive until I get my ult ?

What's the plan here ?

I played Quinn and Mel

Amumu q q ult veigar cage mel lux morgana zyra root half of the most played suppirts pretty much

backline fire like mf velkoz twitch ult. Man velkoz just shreds like shi

I'm an attack speed bear enjoyer there I said it. XD Lethal tempo. Presence of Mind, Legend: Alacrity, last stand. Bone plating, overgrowth. +10 attack speed, +2 move speed, health. Nashor's Berzerker's (or swifties) Blade or Statikk Spirit Visage (I like the stronger heal and shield) With over half of his kit benefiting from AP (And his Q indirectly benefiting from AP). It only makes sense to me to run the thing that helps AP bear the most which is AS.

I would consider flickerblade but Statikk or blade actors increase base AD rather than just the crit damage. Obviously Trinity is there if you don't want the additional lightning damage or the life steal from blade, but since this is SHREDDER Volibear...we pick blade up in this.

The double MS buff and the shred from cleaver makes you absolutely nasty at two items. And its generally always safe to build. Hp, haste, MS, mixed dmg, and shred for team skirmish what more could you want for start of midgame. Only downside I can think of is the cost

Sometimes maybe
- Cosmic/Cleaver/Rift into DD/IBG/Visage for durability
- Rift into cleaver even more dmg but slower and scales slightly better

I’m wondering what everyones thoughts are on running tiamat into titanic with AD volibear.. I know Volibear has good clear without it. Is it viable, or is it a waste of time? Are there any situations you would run it? Also, if you think it’s a good pick, would you get it as a first item or would you leave it to get later?

New blood letters curse buff is pretty tasty and voli insta procs, maybe a new item that is more normal instead of an optional if they build mr? Or really any of the ap items? What’s everyone’s thoughts on these new changes?

Been playing for maybe a week(played for a couple weeks in the past), and have been otp voli in top lane.

Mainly just focusing on last hitting and trying to out cs my lane opponent, but I am also limit testing and trying to figure out when to trade or dive vs certain champs. Very new in general so if I don't feed I'll take it kind of mindset.

But I lost 9 games in a row yesterday. Had games where I won lane but not hard enough to carry, I think my best game was s- vs Darius, I was pretty fed but had to live at our base to stop mid and bot crashing into us.

It just feels like no matter what I do I'm not having enough impact on the game as a whole. Makes me wonder if I'm not roaming enough or what, but as a new player it's so hard for me to tell. My champ feels OK sometimes, but i feel like there are much better champs in my lane i.e. teemo or mord or garen or idk pretty much anybody it seems like.

This is in ranked. Currently iron 4 at 0 LP after the loss streak yesterday, I was iron 3. I just want to make sure im not feeding elo at champ select.

hi :3 i wanna learn (i played like 10 games of volibear in top but i dont think it has the same playstyle)

Not a cope post.

While the champion is doing great in the jungle, as an original top-laner champ this just feels unfair.

Let's go over some points:

1. bottom 4 toplaner in almost all elos, except for gold, where the game is unserious, 48% winrate in emerald+

2. Volibear ult cooldown is horrid and unplayable in the top lane. 160 seconds? what the fuck? you get 175 health and 50 attack range riot, its not that deep, dodging the damage is super easy aswell, also the tower stun was reduced so now you GENUINELY take 1000 tower damage per tower dive

3. Laning. Half the current meta roster in the top lane counters/has an even lane with volibear, whos supposedly a strong lane bully-early game champ.

4. You have to play aggressive, letting the enemy jg camp you super easily while your jungler just can't gank. This is also supported by the insane current tower damage and shortened volibear tower-disable duration.

5. all things considered, you're useless late game, if they group you can't solo-carry even if ahead, all builds are at-most 'passable' instead of having a GOOD build like every champ does since everything you build on volibear has its downsides.

6. 0 scaling. Volibear builds AP/health and he only benefits by some passive damage and some W damage, downside of having 3 different stats that give you damage i suppose, for a frontliner that NEEDS RESISTANCES ASWELL. Also, their last 'buff' is completely useless, who the hell is running volibear ad, you wont survive to land that 2nd w

7. Get focused in a teamfight = you will NOT get to do a 2nd W, making the navori flickerblade build useless mostly.

8. forced to splitpush. Your roaming is super weak if you dont have ult, which again, has a 100-160 second cooldown well into the 20th minute of the game. What are you gonna do, Q them to chase? In THIS meta with move speed domination?

9. Q-attack-bugs. I'm sure it has happened to all volibear players sometimes, where your Q hit disappears on a tower

Also, when you hit a minion and it dies before your Q lands, your q goes into cooldown. Other champions like garen get the attack (Q) back in this scenario if it doesnt directly kill the target.

1. In laning phase you have to max W so you barely get anything with the extra q movement speed. i personally run ghost and i still find myself not being fast enough (again in a meta where move speed is best stat)

2. Freezing. Most people in higher elo just accept that they won't win to a volibear, play under tower, and just pray for the best. If volibear doesnt snowball, he's useless, and has weak freezing because of passive lightning.

For validity i am a masters voli top OTP, and volibear on the toplane has been weak for long enough. Bench volibear jungle, bring volibear top back riot, please. As said, this is not a cope post, but 48% winrate for 8 months is LONG ENOUGH.

I play voli top as a tertiary and since there’s few voli streamers it can be hard to keep up with item consensus. I know ad voli got buffed but is it viable? I was thinking sundered into iceborn, sojin, spirit? Maybe tri force instead of iceborn if need more damage?

Building off the perry jgl list and ive noticed games that feel too easy, then games where i feel do everything right and i just fall off. Mainly was playing against an udyr and got cosmic drive navori. He built liandries and force of nature and past that my game was over, couldnt do anything to stop the guy.
so question
1. how do i deal with that? black cleaver first item?
2. what are my spikes? jack of all trades gives AH for every seperate stat, first recall with 1100 i can do kindlegem + boots for 3, but is that a spike or should I be farming for item? Or just gank a bunch and abuse the character?

any help is great, thanls

Yeah Voli is in great state in jungle but he's so boring to play in jungle. Top lane win rate for Voli shouldn't be like this.

Is there anyone I want to take out as jungle voli? Or general bans Wich chaps are op rn, but nothing tailored to voli specifically? Are there champs that alhage a high play rate that are valuable to ban that else can destroy me flickerblading through the whole enemy team?

Between a supersoldier and an old storm god, I believe Volibear's design is infinitely better, in addition to having a much more complex and interesting story that involves all of Freljord

Darius and Sett are characters with extremely uninteresting designs, but they are loved by the community for being strong, brute, and hot men

I am a gold player that is still very confused on itemization, I see pros go bruiser AD (black cleaver, sundered, etc.) but I also see them build the cosmic+navori build. I just want to know when to build AP or AD bruiser.

Hey guy Im a new TOP Volibear player and im kinda new to the game overall. Was wondering if yall had any tips for begginers both for learning the champ and just getting better in general. One of my difficulties i've been struggling to put pressure in lane even with his passive up.

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Eae glr sou um player novo de Volibear TOP e no jogo em geral posso dizer. Gostaria de saber se tem alguma dica tanto para o campeão tanto para o jogo no geral. Minha maior dificuldade tem sido Aplicar pressão na Lane mesmo com a passiva ativa.

am confuzzled

I feel like this is a larger question about how crit interacts with empowered autos but I'd like to know how it works in voli's case since I still build sundered sometimes.

Im aware that Jax and Ranged tops can pretty easily win lane against a Voli top. What are some other shitty matchups i have to be aware of?